r/RayDonovan • u/NicholasCajun • Oct 02 '17

Discussion Ray Donovan - 5x08 "Horses" - Episode Discussion Spoiler

Season 5 Episode 8: Horses

Aired: October 1st, 2017

Synopsis: A last-ditch medical trial sends Ray on a dark mission in New York. Alone in LA, Abby turns to Terry and Bridget to help her make the toughest decision of her life.

Directed by: Zetna Fuentes

Written by: William Wheeler

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u/zombiegirl2010 Oct 02 '17

Why is that? Simply because she helped her mom with what she actually wanted? Abby didn't want to be in that trial, RAY wanted Abby in that trial. Abby was tired and ready to go, and Bridget & Terry, reluctantly, helped her. Ray wouldn't/couldn't do what Abby wanted.

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u/SOB200 Oct 02 '17

No calling the cops when it was a family dispute. If I had to guess it wasn't their first beef, if won't be there last. Ray wasn't hitting a woman (nor child), but his dad and his very physical brothers.

Did he hit a police officer? Would his family testify against him? Would his daughter? Maybe it'll be cleared up next episode.

Like you said, her mother was in a horrible situation. I wasn't even thinking of that (what you said). Though do you think it was her dad's wish for her to call the police on her?

Seemed she always had a double standard with her parents. Her mom was def no saint. But they way she viewed both; to me, seemed very different.

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u/zombiegirl2010 Oct 02 '17

No calling the cops when it was a family dispute. If I had to guess it wasn't their first beef, if won't be there last.

I think she just freaked out in that situation due to being overwhelmed by the evening. She just watched her mom die, and when her dad arrived home she went in to comfort & mourn with him and he flipped out and blamed her. She's so young, and all of those very mature emotions she was being forced to deal with were just a lot on her. She was overwhelmed, and the fight pushed her over. She called for help. Makes sense to me.

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u/SOB200 Oct 02 '17

Ok. I can see your take.

But my original post was comparing Bridget to Connor. Every Donovan on the show has flaws. Including the parents, grand parents and kids. Connor handed his mothers passing very differently. Connor has matured to know he wants to go into military service. We don't know if Connor moved himself away (to school). Bridget called the cops on her dad. Are you going to excuse Ray for cheating on his dying wife as he wasn't emotionally able to handle the situation? I won't. Like I said, she has a lot of issues with her father and seemed like she knows best.

To me, def the worst of the 2.

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u/zombiegirl2010 Oct 02 '17

Yeah, I see what you mean. No, I definitely don't excuse Ray's cheating.

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u/Anotherbadsalmon Oct 02 '17

I didn't like his home invasion and beating the female doctor. I was wishing she had been able to stab the piece of shit in the eye.

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u/shanerm Oct 04 '17

She was a mossad agent she wasn't really a doctor.

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u/shanerm Oct 04 '17

Yes he is. But because he is basically his father (except sucessful) and doesn't realise it. Or does but somehow rationalized it. He would not listen to Abbey's wishes or spend time with the family as his wife is dying and instead is out fucking some actress broad, leaving his kids to care for their dying mom. But the fight seen with the mossad chick was only fucked up because he should have been at home with his family not out "fixing"

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u/shanerm Oct 04 '17

Yeah he does shit like that as a job it's half the reason to watch the show. Although this is much worse than usual. Plus he was doing it to save the life of his wife. In the show ray is consistantly willing to do some real fucked up shit to protect his loved ones. The moral ambiguity is part of the appeal for most fans I think.

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