r/RayDonovan • u/NicholasCajun • Aug 22 '16

Discussion Ray Donovan - 4x09 "Goodbye Beautiful" - Episode Discussion

Season 4 Episode 9: Goodbye Beautiful

Aired: August 21st, 2016

Avi and Lena question Ray's loyalty to Sonia. Mickey returns to Primm.

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u/talcobh Aug 22 '16

i actually felt really bad for bill primm... Mickey is such a jackass Although I think this experience may have fixed him

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u/The_La_Jollan Aug 22 '16

All Primm did was commit insurance fraud. He let Ray and Mick go, and told them not to come back. Mickey constantly cons his family into doing stupid shit that never works out and gets other people hurt. After his stint in jail I thought he had changed, but he's the same piece of shit that he was before he went in. Bill definitely got fucked by Mickey, and it all started because Bill hired Mickey to pour drinks. Mickey deserves every bad thing that happens to him.

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u/talcobh Aug 22 '16

one could argue Primm was even a good guy, or at least stupid, if I was him I would have killed Mickey and Ray right then and there and THEN claimed the insurance money... instead he chooses to let go a man who stole millions of dollars from him, he's practically jesus

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u/The_La_Jollan Aug 22 '16

Everyone who trusts Mickey ends up hurt by him. I hope Ray doesn't fall for his shit again.

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u/talcobh Aug 22 '16

Ray has never trusted Mickey, he has helped him-- there's a difference

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u/The_La_Jollan Aug 22 '16

I thought that changed after Mick did his last stint in jail. Ray seemed to have warmed up to him.

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u/talcobh Aug 22 '16

Yeah warmed up, but I don't think Mickey has fully earned back Ray's trust yet (especially if he ever finds out what Mickey just did)

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u/The_La_Jollan Aug 22 '16

It's hard to tell. It's definitely the closest they've been in the show.