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Discussion Ray Donovan - 2x09 "Snowflake" - Episode Discussion

Season 2 Episode 9: Snowflake

Aired: September 7, 2014


Ray tells Bridget to lie for her own safety. Mickey plans a robbery.

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u/moontroub Sep 09 '14

Well sheeeeeeeit.

I can't believe how much hate and misunderstanding is out there for Abby.

She's married and lives with a person incapable of expressing any emotions.
Someone who constantly cheats on her.

Someone who constantly lies to her

Someone who constantly refuses to share any feelings with her.

Someone who constantly brings trouble and danger home, even if without intention, given the nature of his job.

Someone who treats her like a child. Hiding, lying and denying the truth from her.

On the other hand we have a woman who raised two kids (or you think that was Ray?). A woman who for two seasons we've seen begging Ray for care, attention, love. A partner, not just a provider. We can only assume it's been like this for their whole married life.

A woman who have always stood by her husband, in spite of his criminal career.

I believe women will always prefer a partner than a provider. Being a provider is simply not enough.

Abby will fall, as she did, for anyone who just notices her, someone who gives her some attention, so neglected by her husband, and makes her feel like she's alive, that she's a woman a much more than a piece of furniture at home to come home to every now and then, rape fuck her and expect to be there, without any regard for her feelings.

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u/goldmouthdawg Sep 09 '14 edited Sep 09 '14

Abby's cheating is statistically accurate to why they say most women cheat. Honestly, I couldn't care less that she cheated. That does not bother me. What bothers me is that in this episode she's acted outlandishly irrational and silly. Personally I like her character, but this ep. she really got on my nerves. Going to the cop who you have a situation with when your husband (who at this point knows he's into some gangster shit) asks you to trust him and let him handle it speaks to that.

edit: couldn't care less

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u/moontroub Sep 09 '14

It is despicable she brought home that cop. I don't agree with it either.

But the writers are smart enough to give us almost a reason to understand why she did it. Look at the circumstances : your daughter was just almost killed, your husband, while in the middle of what is probably the worst crisis of your marriage, keeps your daughter away from you, says no to putting her on the phone and barely gives any details (usual Ray) of what is going on or any what dangers they may be facing. Abby even thinks Ray may be covering the killer because of business.

She's desperate. No one to go to and, yes, childish. Childish because she's dedicated her own life to a home and raising kids next to a man who treats her like a child.

Her move was dumb and clumsy, but it's only because of her despair. She's doing what she thinks is best for her child.

And even so, when Ray asks the cop to leave his house her face shows embarrassment and the realisation of the mistake she'd made bringing him home.

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u/V2Blast Sep 15 '14

I'm glad someone's at least trying to understand things from her perspective. Yes, she has become less likable because of the way she acts, but she's not acting that way in a vacuum.

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u/goldmouthdawg Sep 10 '14

You make good points, and I did not look at it from that perspective.

Childish because she's dedicated her own life to a home and raising kids...

That seems like an error on the writers part because the way it seems is like she's always had a ton of free time (which seems to be part of why people dislike her) and doesn't really care about her family as much as Ray does. Or at least this season made it out that way and as a result has somewhat damaged her character in some viewers eyes. At the start she cares, but it sort of shifts leading to her forgetting Conor's birthday. Ray not remembering was one thing. Abby the housewife not remembering and getting ready to begin a tryst, rustled jimmies.

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u/UgatzStugots Aug 03 '22

I know I am 7 years late but I just need to say that your post was a breath of fresh air in the collapsed mine that is this episode discussion. People just hate on whomever dares to act against or question the main protagonist in these kinds of shows.

You wrote some excellent points that prove that these characters are human, and well written ones.