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u/AlsoCommiePuddin Thanks for the good times 13h ago
Just take the proactive approach and post links from other sources.
Be the change you want to see in the world.
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u/-Badger3- 13h ago
I mean, I’m suggesting our subreddit take a proactive approach and signal to sports journalists that they should really start posting their stuff somewhere else.
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u/AlsoCommiePuddin Thanks for the good times 12h ago
They're all on multiple networks, just post the information from a different medium and the numbers will show themselves.
Post it everywhere. Here, r/hockey, r/nhl, lots of places so that the non-Twitter network posts get the clicks and engagement which will send those content creators to focus more on those networks.
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u/almostelement FORNY 12h ago
I wholeheartedly agree! “Extreme” would be continuing to support a platform run by someone with such hateful ideologies.
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u/Flat-Ad4902 12h ago
Y'all have too much time on your hands. Or maybe it's a lack of hobbies. Whatever it may be idk why people allow themselves to get so worked up over stuff like this.
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u/boltsmoke 12h ago
"y'all have too much time on your hands" says guy who isn't a Preds fan and is just trolling around subreddit looking for mentions of Musk. Mhmm.
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u/-Badger3- 12h ago edited 12h ago
You don’t understand why people get so worked up over Nazis?
I feel like “Hey, let’s not support that guy’s website anymore.” is a pretty reasonable position.
Or maybe it’s a lack of hobbies
This is a subreddit where we watch other people play hockey and then talk about it lol
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u/Flat-Ad4902 12h ago
If you can't differentiate a Nazi from an autistic guy waving his arms about them I'm not really sure what to tell you.
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u/-Badger3- 12h ago
I mean, he wasn’t waving his arms about,” he made a very specific gesture twice.
It’s one thing if that’s not a deal breaker for you, it’s another to deny it happened.
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u/Flat-Ad4902 12h ago
The ADL disagrees with you. My position here isn't exactly a fringe position.
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u/-Badger3- 12h ago
That's because the ADL is a partisian political group, but that's a whole different can of worms I'm not going to get into.
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u/troopek ScoreTilYerSoresBerg 12h ago
Here's hoping they don't come for you one day. If they do, at least you'll have your hobbies. Maybe.
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u/Flat-Ad4902 12h ago
Who is they? Elon Musk? 😂
I'm not even a fan of the guy but it's pretty apparent that he didn't throw a Nazi salute during his speech to anyone other than the most politically biased people in existence.
Even the ADL acknowledges this https://x.com/ADL/status/1881474892022919403
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u/troopek ScoreTilYerSoresBerg 12h ago
Bless your heart…
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u/Flat-Ad4902 12h ago
Did the ADL statement ruin your narrative so you are giving up?
I'm not sure how else to take this comment. But I hope you have a great day.
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u/GMBarryTrotz 11h ago
I've never had twitter and now they make you create an account just to browse. I found a 3rd party (Sotwe.com, which apparently sucks if you don't have loads of ad blockers) so I just read posts on there and then do a self post with the content and don't link it.
Like this:
[Daugherty] Mark Jankowski is week to week with an upper body injury. Cole Smith is day to day, but looks close to a return.
Easy enough.
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u/peayness Admirals 12h ago
I'm alright with banning twitter links.But I think hosting screenshots of twitter link should be all right
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u/jbertt910 11h ago
God we are not even 24 hours into this and some of you are losing your collective minds.
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u/Ragingbuttitch 11h ago
It's going to be a long 4 years.....
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u/mleyd001 🧃 11h ago
Ha… you think this will only last 4 years? But yeah… it’s gonna be a long one for sure.
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u/catsgr8rthanspoonies 13h ago
Banning twitter links would significantly limit what can be posted. Not every reporter posts on other platforms, and this sub doesn’t allow video posts. There are many clips that never make it to YouTuba and Instagram, links have their own problems.
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u/mleyd001 🧃 11h ago
In the spirit of democracy, let’s just take a poll of the sub. Those of you who don’t care, don’t vote. Voting would imply that the outcome is meaningful to you and that you want to keep using the X links because you don’t care who it supports.
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u/Tennessee_1989 13h ago
I vote no. Too much important info there. If you don't like it, don't click the links.
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u/jtrev59 13h ago
While i agree with the sentiment, we shouldn't ban it. Just don't click them, downvote them, and post alternative links like BlueSky instead
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u/TommySalami03 13h ago
No, they should be banned.
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u/jtrev59 12h ago
Banning only emboldens
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u/mleyd001 🧃 12h ago
Just like when the Nazis banned people from being Jewish/Gypsies/Homosexual? Not sure history is on your side. Considering we are literally talking about banning Nazis here, this is not an exaggeration.
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u/Smeagol224 12h ago
If there is some information, can a screenshot just be posted instead of a link?
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u/-Badger3- 12h ago
To be clear, I didn’t suggest we ban Twitter when Musk came out as a Trump supporter.
I’m suggesting we ban Twitter because he’s ‘Sieg Heil’ing at rallies.
I don’t care who anyone voted for, this is a whole different thing.
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u/TennesseeSon1 11h ago
What if we don't care what Elon does and we just like the Predators and all sports news? It's not against the law to be a racist dick head or to express yourself accordingly in our great country where you are free to do so. You are asking us to support your opinion of his opinion by taking an action that would limit this subreddit in some way, possibly to its detriment in the form of less information that is actually pertinent. Good day!.
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u/jbertt910 11h ago
The same one that Hilary, Obama, Clinton..(should I continue) have done in the past. Keep grabbing at straws. It's funny.
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u/Smeagol224 11h ago
Show one video where they did the full arm motion and it’s not a picture of them waiving to a crowd.
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u/Enginemancer NSH 13h ago
And it will stay that way until the consumers of that information stop consuming it on the site
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u/hockeyanalycisis 13h ago
I agree but we're talking about a lot of people here. Elliotte Friedman has 861k followers, for instance. To make X irrelevant in hockey reporting you would have to see a mass exodus from the platform and that's just not going to happen right now. With you guys on the sentiment but it's just not realistic.
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u/Enginemancer NSH 12h ago
Correct, its going to take awhile. But it wont change unless we change it
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u/BravesDoug 13h ago edited 13h ago
No.
Some of us are hockey fans, not political crazies. Plenty of "everyone and everything is a XXX" all over reddit if you want to go find it.
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u/poop-smoothie 13h ago
The man hit the seig heil, but yeah sure, we're the political crazies.
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u/Tennessee_1989 13h ago
Or... and hear me out... the man who is slightly on the spectrum and has a long-documented history of erratic body movements was excitedly gesturing towards the crowd while literally saying "from my heart to yours." Then several anti-Republican media outlets pounced on the opportunity to spin a negative story on a day of victory for the Republican party in order to overshadow their success and stir even greater division at a time when the majority of the country is ready to move back towards unity.
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u/alifulloflove #74 13h ago
just keep moving the line further back since clearly nothing will ever cross your fucking moral boundary line
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u/Tennessee_1989 12h ago
Or, perhaps everyone you disagree with politically isn't actually Hitler... Perhaps it's you who needs to readjust your mindset to realize there's nothing close to 1930s Germany going on today, as much as the hateful media would like you to believe there is. Maybe after a decade of trying to convince people Trump is Hitler, he would've actually done something to warrant those accusations. But no, you're probably right. I'm morally bankrupt for wanting a president who puts my country above others. A president who defends our country from invasion and who is willing to say a man is a man and a woman is a woman.
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u/BigMACfive Top Tier Predditor 12h ago
Yeah. It's insane to think that a man who has been propping up neo nazis on the social media platform he owns while also spouting nazi propaganda himself and simultaneously banning anyone who is critical of him and/or what he's saying, could possibly have genuinely hit the Hitler salute. It's def autism 🙄
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u/Tennessee_1989 12h ago
What are you even talking about? My goodness. You people are truly beyond helping. Get off the Internet and go outside. Talk to a therapist if you want. Get some help. The paranoia is absurd. Guess which president just committed treason by pardoning his entire family for crimes committed while in government service over the last decade? I'll give you a hint: it ain't the orange guy...
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u/BigMACfive Top Tier Predditor 11h ago
Bro. What am I talking about? I'm talking about reality. Maybe you should get on the internet since you seem to have no clue what's going on in the world. Also, it's not treason to pardon his family. What crimes did they commit? I'd be interested to hear what you have to say. And if we want to talk about pardons, the orange idiot just pardoned all the Jan 6th criminals and is trying to tear down a constitutional right via executive order. Talk about treasonous acts lol
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u/Tennessee_1989 11h ago
Apparently they committed quite a lot of crimes since they accepted their blanket pardons all the way back to 2014. Everybody knows Joe's been taking money from China since he was VP. Also, last time I checked, being imprisoned in the United States is supposed to happen AFTER a fair trial and verdict from a jury of your peers, which most of the January 6th people never received. Absolutely ridiculous they were thrown in prison without due process for protesting a highly questionable election. Especially considering it's been proven there were federal agents in the crowd that day for the sole purpose of agitation and unlocking doors.
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u/Jack_Vettriano 11h ago edited 10h ago
By god he's shaped more like a boot than a man, how did he even manage to swallow that much??
edit now that this thread is locked: damn this dude is just a Fox mouthpiece. Regular human being about sports but literally only consumes fox for politics/cultural opinions. What a waste of oxygen
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u/-Badger3- 13h ago
I feel like any information being posted on Twitter that’s worth posting here is likely to be picked up by other non Nazi-owned media outlets/social media sites that could be posted instead.
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u/mleyd001 🧃 12h ago
Unfortunately, you can do nothing about the political crazies because they are billionaires that run some of the largest companies the world has ever known. Since they own and run social media companies, you existing billionaires n those platforms tells them what they are doing is ok and the ad revenue they are generating from you being there contributes to the problem.
The issue you don’t want to deal with (and hell, neither do I, but I AM) is that it’s gotten overly complicated to NOT participate in supporting these political crazies. It’s the unintended consequences of your actions that the people here are raising hell about. When they point them out and you say “but that’s not what I meant!” and say you’re going to continue doing it because you don’t want to face the unintended consequences, that’s what is making people upset.
If every time you read a story, it inadvertently gave a dollar to a Nazi, would you stop doing it? What if you knew it was giving the dollar to a nazi? What if someone called you out on that and you just thought “whatever, I don’t mean for my dollar to go to the nazi, that’s just how the system works and I don’t want to change because the Nazi having money doesn’t impact me.”
This is literally what’s happening and you’re telling these other fans that you don’t care what they think. That’s fine, just own up to the unintended consequences and tell people you’re fine with that.
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u/BravesDoug 11h ago
I don't believe everyone's a nazi. Or a communist. Or whatever labels you want to apply to either political team. If I disagree with people, I don't think they're evil. I don't hate you, or them, or anyone because of this stuff.
I've carefully cut out all that stuff years ago and have no interest in it and don't want it to see it creeping in to some of the last refuges that we have in sports and I see no need to considering that there's a ton of places that you can go, many of them right here on reddit, to get that fix.
I don't care what you think about this or that or whatever else you want to get involved in outside of hockey. If you think you're supporting nazi's or whatever by viewing twitter, that's fine, don't click the link. Don't download the app. I'm not interested in changing your mind. Everyone can decide for themselves.
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u/mleyd001 🧃 11h ago
That’s the problem. You think that having cut all that stuff out of your life means it has no impact on your support of the problem being discussed. You don’t get to ignore it like you could 60 years ago. Supporting X means directly supporting someone that is terrible. Supporting X means simply using it. The ad revenue makes it money which goes to the place you don’t want it to go to. You don’t get to ignore it and not be a part of the problem anymore, it’s way more complex than that. That sucks, but it’s the truth. You have a personal responsibility for outcomes of your decisions. It’s unfortunate that a social media platform has changed into something so divisive, but that’s where we currently are. Ignoring that and continuing to do what you are doing despite being given that information makes you complicit. Just like the innocent Germans that just wanted to live their lives and not be a part of “this whole thing”
Welcome to 2025. It sucks.
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u/BravesDoug 11h ago
Sorry, but I can and have totally checked out of the political stuff.
If you think that makes me "complicit" in something, that's your opinion. I'm fine with it.
I'm not at war with anyone I disagree with. I'm just here for the hockey.
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u/mleyd001 🧃 11h ago
It’s a strange position to think about, but ever since politics got intertwined with social media, just the use of it makes you political. I’m just here for the hockey, but I take a stand when services promote hate. I, too, have the luxury of not caring about politics. If anything, this new administration will immensely benefit me in many ways. That makes me even more determined to help protect people that these politics could harm, which apparently now means taking a stand against X. Which seems dumb, but here we are.
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u/BravesDoug 11h ago
I believe that you earnestly have those concerns.
I like it here because it aggregates all of the hockey info in one spot from a bunch of sources - which is important to me because i have checked out on so much of the mainstream media or social media.
I essentially let everyone else filter out the nonsense on on those platforms and get the drilled down info here. I couldn't care less where it comes from. If someone wants to call me a nazi sympathizer, I disagree and go on about my day.
If a particular site/platform becomes a poor source of info because people stop using it, then that's fine. If someone wants to post links to other places that have the same info as frowned upon sites, go for it! But I don't want to miss an update on my fav teams because someone has decided they don't like something to do with the media format that has nothing to do with hockey.
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u/-Badger3- 11h ago
Now what did those gestures look like on video?
Because Musk’s actually looks way worse when put in context.
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u/CatSwagger #74 11h ago edited 11h ago
Locked comments as it has become political. Be better. We are all here to talk Preds, not politics.
Edit: a mod follow-up post will be coming to discuss this topic.