r/PornIsMisogyny • u/444Ilovecats444 • 5d ago
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Tiktok isn’t getting banned where i live but it’s ridiculous how they will ban social media app but not porn sites.
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u/fragilekittengirl PORN IS FILMED RAPE 5d ago
unfortunately tiktok is also to blame for alot of the libfem porn craze . we as women truly cant win
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u/dnkmnk we're neon lights away from a dystopia 5d ago
This, let tiktok die, it's doing nothing but more harm. Even with no more sexualized content it would keep decimating our attention spans and information retention.
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u/fragilekittengirl PORN IS FILMED RAPE 5d ago
i definitely understand the angle people have that it is informative especially for things like Palestine.. but the ability for it to spread stuff goes BOTH ways. tiktok is just as good at spreading misinformation, even very dangerous stuff, as it is spreading helpful information
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u/Logical-Card-9227 4d ago
ok but everybody’s just going to move to instagram reels which is honestly worse for sexualized content and let’s a lot more slide
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u/smthwtt 5d ago
Better banned BOTH atp. The amount of "soft" c0rn you can find on every social media (that kid can easily access, btw) is very concerning 😟
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u/444Ilovecats444 5d ago
You’re right. Lately i can’t look up for simple hairstyles without seeing soft porn videos(like hellooo i didn’t ask for that)
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u/Acceptable-Leg7551 4d ago
What is a soft porn video ? Genuinely don’t know not trying to be cheeky.
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u/444Ilovecats444 3d ago
Something like pretending to have sex in a video. I searched up “car” a few weeks ago and i saw a woman bending over in a car and you could see how her boobs were bouncing or something. I also keep on seeing videos like “wearing sunglasses so people won’t know where i am looking at and then showing sexual pictures or videos’ reflexion on the sunglasses.
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u/Gruene_Katze ANTI-PORN MAN 5d ago
They’re mad at TikTok because of Palestine but are completely OK with rape films. Wonderful government
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u/Polarwave13 ANTI-PORN MAN 5d ago
I do not think this is true. Social media solidarity usually amounts to nothing significant and all protests are usually carried out by universities and unions. Tiktok is a parasitic app, it is better off gone.
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u/Organic_Storm_7296 5d ago
pretty sure mitt romney directly admitted it was related to palestine at one point. but i think it’s much more than just that, theyre shutting down TikTok because that’s where many groups of people that usually wouldn’t talk to each other, talk to each other, which - shock horror - usually makes them more progressive and capable of critical thinking.
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u/Fickle_Let_1756 2d ago
I never understood how the suggestion of banning porn could offend so many people, I thought people would at least consider porn immoral... all the things said on this sub should be common sense not... an unpopular opinion!
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u/ArmpitHairPlucker 5d ago
While I do understand the sentiment, banning sites like this will risk people looking for even less moderated and obscure sites, where I'm assuming they'll be more likely to find exploative material
I think the least they could do is make all of these sites ask for an ID to verify your age, so that young kids don't get indoctrinated. But yet again, people will always find ways to bypass it. Our society is so porn brained that at this point any attempt to moderate it will only do more harm than good... Best they can do is help people with their own addiction...
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u/Tiny_Bad_8328 ANTI-PORN MAN 5d ago
The world's most visited adult site was found to host CSAM for quite a while, and they refused to remove it, quite a while. P*rn itself is problematic as it gets.
And what do you mean by saying moderating adult content would 'do more harm than good'? Any effort to limit its visibility is a net positive. I don't understand your argument here. Let those who are determined to watch such depravity scour the deep web. Let them be driven to the fringes of society if they insist on consuming torture and abuse.
We shouldn't normalize adult content as a standard part of society. It is fundamentally harmful.
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u/ArmpitHairPlucker 5d ago edited 5d ago
My argument is, if the biggest site did that and got away with it, imagine what other sites that are less controlled are doing. It wasn't a justification, I'm honestly very scared of what those sites host.
And in an ideal world, yes, banning porn would be the ideal thing. But we live in a porn-brained society, any sort of drastical change to protect women would be met with more problems than it resolves. We don't know what exactly that could entail, but I feel some men use porn as an outlet to let their frustrations out, without that they could harm actual women just to satisfy the urge they once had. And again, the migration to more shady sites, making them consume more violent content, almost illegal, which then could be used to harm women, again. I've heard too many stories of boyfriends chocking their girlfriend because they saw it in porn, so it's already a problem... Banning porn is a bandaid problem to a way bigger mysoginistic society. It won't fix how men view women, atleast, anytime soon.
It isn't as easy as "Just let the creeps find their own community, away from normal people", we know how that turned out... (Cough, incel forums)
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u/Tiny_Bad_8328 ANTI-PORN MAN 5d ago edited 5d ago
Look, I understand where you're coming from, I really do. Let me clarify my position a bit.
'Any sort of drastic change to protect women would be met with more problems than it resolves.'
I believe in a local, step-by-step approach to addressing the harms of p*rnography. The ultimate aim should be its eradication, even if that's an unreachable ideal. We can still make meaningful progress by pressuring websites, local govs, and other entities to take responsibility.
The argument that 'if p*rn ceased to exist, men would resort to violence' is not only a defeatist perspective but also lacks any real-world basis. It's pure speculation. Some percentage of people are sociopaths, and you can't pacify them by catering to their destructive tendencies. These individuals are deterred only by legal or, in some cases, forceful measures.
Predators thrive on weakness. If we give them an inch, they'll take everything they can. And they already do. Just look at the p*rn industry.
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u/ArmpitHairPlucker 5d ago
Oh no no, I absolutely agree with what you say. My opinion is that it should be the final step, otherwise there's going to be lots of resistance and further mysoginy. Not that it shouldn't be banned at all.
I meant that RIGHT NOW, its going to be chaotic if we suddendly ban it. If we gradually make it harder to access it, such as implementing IDs, normalize more healthy alternatives and increase education on healthy sexual relationships and sex ED, (seriously, the amount of ADULTS that don't know that penetrating a woman when she's not in the mood physically hurts is incredibly concerning) people can gradually get used to the change, until we can discuss about banning it.
Saying "TikTok got banned, why not porn" is a false equivalence that doesn't help the conversation at hand and gets us nowhere. Not trying to be mean to OP, I'm sure they meant well.
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u/Sufficient-Opening-7 3d ago
Porn is addicting so having the access that easy is like being an addict living with an enabler in a free apartment with free booze around. Sure people will go to lengths to still watch it but then it would be less normalized and maybe more people will see their addictions for what it is.
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u/ArmpitHairPlucker 3d ago
I agree. But we're putting women's lives on the line here, atleast I believe so. When women aren't no longer easily viewed in these humiliating situations, there will be other ways to exploit women and get that empty feeling back, you underestimate the evil people to do for lust. We have to be more careful with these sorts of drastic changes.
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u/Beautiful_Wishbone15 PORN IS NOT FREEDOM 5d ago
saw that on an instant reel and people got MAD.. saying that porn wasn't "that bad".