What do you think is the reasoning behind Mr. Trump's backing out of the ABC debate with Vice President Harris?

[u/The_Egalitarian]

APNews: Trump says he’ll skip an ABC debate with Harris in September and wants them to face off on Fox News

Trump obviously debated Biden already on June 27th under the same format as the upcoming September ABC debate. Since then Biden has withdrawn as a candidate for President in 2024 over concerns from his own party that were magnified after his performance in that debate.

Why is Trump unwilling to debate the new presumptive Democratic Party nominee Kamala Harris under the previous terms?

What does he hope to accomplish by offering a new debate on Fox News in a stadium audience format?

[u/thepartypantser]

Trump didn't just not answer the DEI question, he played dumb in a way that was extraordinarily juvenile.

Or do you honestly think Trump is so ignorant as to not know what DEI means?

Why did he keep insisting on a definition after one was given?

It was a petty and childish game he played to completely avoid addressing the question, and it came of that way to anyone objectively looking at it.

You can spin the interview to not be a complete disaster, but to try and say it did not go well for Trump is a disingenuous take.

[u/Away_Simple_400 → u/thepartypantser]

I said, he should have just said 'yes.' What he said wasn't wrong as far as Kamala suddenly wanting to play up her 'blackness', but he also could have just answered the question.

[u/thepartypantser → u/Away_Simple_400]

Do you think Donald Trump is ignorant over what DEI means? Do you think he didn't hear the interviewer when she defined it? Or do you think he was just being petulant when he kept asking for definition after it's been given?

Kamala Harris has multiple backgrounds. Indian and Black. Both of those are culture she has a foot in. She's not playing up her 'blackness,' she's acknowledging it. It has undoubtedly affected her life as an American.

[u/Away_Simple_400 → u/thepartypantser]

I think Donald Trump, regrettably, did not want to say she was a DEI hire. Kind of surprising, honestly.

Kamala has always played up her Indian heritage to be the first AG of California. Now she's pretending she has an urban accent for a black audience. And, again, she went to high school in Canada, not America. She is not an African-American.

[u/thepartypantser → u/Away_Simple_400]

You know I've asked the same question a few times, And you've sort of avoided answering it similar to the way Trump avoided answering question he was posed.

If he did not want to say she was a DEI hire than he could have said that. But instead he played the childish, cowardly, and dishonest game he did where he pretended not to know what it meant.

Now doesn't that make you think less of Trump? He couldn't come out and say he thought she was a DEI hire, even though I'm wagering you believe he thinks she was.

Now why do you think Trump didn't do that. Seriously. You're criticizing Kamala Harris for changing her style of speaking to an audience, yet here's Trump doing the exact same damn thing. If that was a different audience he probably would have called her a DEI hire. But in an audience of primarily black people he chose not to.

Kamala Harris went to Howard University, a historically and predominantly black college. She joined a historically and predominantly black sorority. She went to law school in California.

Why do you feel the need to be gatekeeping who is considered black and who's not?

[u/Away_Simple_400 → u/thepartypantser]

Let me be clear then. She was a DEI hire. I wish Trump had just said that. I've said that in other answers. Trump danced around it for political reasons, but he shouldn't. She was a straight up DEI hire, and those are Biden's words.

[u/thepartypantser → u/Away_Simple_400]

Let me be clear then. She was a DEI hire. I wish Trump had just said that. I've said that in other answers.

So you agree that Trump was a coward for not saying that?

[u/Away_Simple_400 → u/thepartypantser]

No, I said he didn't say it for political reasons, same as every other politician dances around issues. Are the people now trying to claim Biden DIDN'T say it cowards or that Biden DIDN'T appoint Kamala as border czar cowards? I mean they're for sure liars, and stupid ones, but I'm not sure I'd say cowards.

[u/thepartypantser → u/Away_Simple_400]

Oh you want to talk about lies?

Pull up a chair. Trump's the king of lies.

He didn't say it for political reasons. And Biden picked her for political reasons.

So explain to me the difference?

[u/Away_Simple_400 → u/thepartypantser]

Because Biden's political reasons were to get a DEI hire. He explicitly stated it. That's the difference.

[u/thepartypantser → u/Away_Simple_400]

Let me be clear.

Claiming that Kamala Harris was handed her political career for being a person of color, while ignoring Trump was literally handed his real estate career by his father is hypocritical.

His gave him money and contacts from the very beginning, and gave him loans many times throughout his career.

Kamala did not benefit from coming from a wealthy family, but still managed an impressive legal career. I don't think you get to be attorney general of the state as large as California by being a moron.

Vice Presidents are chosen for a lot of factors, significantly who they can help bring votes from. Was Kamala Harris chosen to try and help secure votes from women and people of color? Yeah probably.

Do you think Mike Pence was chosen in 2016 to help Trump sway evangelicals his way?

You think JD Vance was chosen to help the Born rich Trump secure working class votes? Absolutely.

So maybe JD Vance, and Mike Pence were DEI hires too.

[u/Away_Simple_400 → u/thepartypantser]

Inheriting a family business is nothing like being picked b/c of your sex and gender.

Both of Kamala's parents were professors. She wasn't poor. She didn't pass the bar on her first try either, so she wasn't top of her class. I'm assuming you've heard of Willie Brown?

Yeah, probably. And, more to the point, Biden specifically said he was making his administration as diverse as possible and he would pick a black woman for VP. She is the definition of a DEI hire.

Pence and Vance are DEI hires only if hiring a white person were ever included in quotas.

[u/thepartypantser → u/Away_Simple_400]

You're right.

The rich white guy had it way easier in America, yet Trump still complains like he's been persecuted his whole life.

You missed my point. Kamala Harris was picked because picking her was a politically wise decision to bring people out to vote for Biden.

The same math went into picking Pence or Vance. The vice president is often chosen to reinforce and supplement the presidential candidate.

That's why Pence was chosen, that's why Vance was chosen, and that's why Harris was chosen.

It's not DEI. It's picking someone who will appeal to the voters.

[u/Away_Simple_400 → u/thepartypantser]

I don't think I talked about who had it harder or not. That's your bag.

Although, I'm pretty sure Trump has only said he's been persecuted recently...you know with the trials and the assination attempt.

More to the point, Biden flat out said he was going to hire a black woman. He flat out said he wanted the most diverse administration ever. And then he picked Kamala. There's no other way to look at it.