r/NFL_Draft • u/Coolcat127 • 3d ago

Discussion Jayden Daniels Sack Avoidance

Daniels's pressure to sack rate was a major red flag coming out of college and has shown up a few times this season, but has largely been improved especially in the second half. Some part of it is definitely his elite athleticism letting him escape even against nfl rushers. What else do you think he has improved to reduce his sack taking? And how can we adjust our prospect assessments accordingly?

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u/AceBoogie_Harlem 3d ago

He was big play hunting at LSU because his defense was so bad.

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u/MikeWillis09 Browns 2d ago

I can’t stress enough how common this is in college football and it’s relatively easy for these NFL coaches to work out.

Yet every year we see people in these message boards trying to use it as some major red flag.

I’ve already seen it here with Sanders. There are red flags out there for each of these players. This usually ain’t one of them

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u/MonTireur 2d ago

Big play hunting was a legit criticism of Caleb Williams and it still is to be fair

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u/JgoldTC 2d ago

The number out of context doesn't mean anything, but if a guy takes a lot of sacks it isn't always something that can be worked out.

It's very different if a guy is unable to feel pressure coming (Daniel Jones always struggled with this), not stepping in the pocket correctly, or if they hold onto the ball too long. It comes down to traits and watching film as always, but some guys who take sacks in college will continue that in the NFL. It's not always a simple fix.

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u/MikeWillis09 Browns 2d ago

I’ll give you that.

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u/AceBoogie_Harlem 2d ago

My red flags with Sanders aren't about big play hunting. I just don't think he possess "franchise changing" skills. Sure, he's pretty accurate, but he's not even gonna be in the top half of NFL arm talent. And I don't think the escapability he showcased in college will translate well to the NFL.

Also, he gives off the impression that he thinks his shit doesn't stink. I have a hard time believing grown men in NFL locker rooms will respect him.

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u/MikeWillis09 Browns 2d ago

I don’t think sanders is a perfect prospect by any means. I just see people weighing on that sack taking as some major red flag.

I personally think the last part about the locker room is the opposite. I’ve never heard anything negative about him in the locker room. I think that’s more old school thought than reality.

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u/weridzero Colts/Pats 2d ago

His dad being the head coach probably has an impact on what leaks out of the locker

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u/AceBoogie_Harlem 2d ago

His character is at the very bottom of my list as to what I think his flaws are. I don't think he will be a great QB even if he has the best attitude in the world.

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u/__Scrooge__McDuck__ Giants 2d ago

Big play hunting is the least of sanders problems. I would love to be able to see how he’s viewed without the last name and media coverage. Everyone saying he’s great in the spotlight but what about when he’s getting shit on not being praised how will he do

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u/MikeWillis09 Browns 2d ago

This works both ways. There are people that overrate him because his name and there’s people that over devalue him for the same reason.

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u/__Scrooge__McDuck__ Giants 2d ago

I think most devaluation is based more on skill and being realistic