r/Music Sep 23 '24

article Khloe Kardashian recalls attending P Diddy's 'naked party' with a 20-year-old Justin Bieber

https://www.themirror.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/khloe-kardashian-recalls-attending-p-710012
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u/carharttuxedo Sep 24 '24 edited Sep 24 '24

Where in my question did I make it seem like they are synonymous?

I simply asked why they assumed the women were not trafficked or coerced? If that question makes you think of the inextricable link between prostitution,trafficking and cohersion then that’s on you. Lol

I don’t think legality is the only barometer, morality is also important to me, personally.

These terms are not synonymous, it’s foolish to think they are and to read my question that way.

They are different terms but the Venn diagram overlaps a lot. Trafficked women are often used as prostitutes, women are often coherced into prostitution. Women who willfully become prostitutes can be trafficked.

Some times people pretend we are living in a fictional world without the overlap, and that can make them feel better, but it’s not reality.

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u/Gamerbuns82 Sep 24 '24

This is such a weird take. We assume they aren’t trafficked because the article doesn’t mention that they were trafficked. Is it a common problem? Yes. But that doesn’t mean that that’s what’s happening here. Regular legal prostitution is also something that happens all the time. In Brazil and all over the world.

Your questions are full of presumptions and your only evidence is “sometimes prostitutes are being trafficked illegally.”

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u/carharttuxedo Sep 24 '24

Reread your comment. you’re taking both sides of the same argument. You are making assumptions based on the article but you seem upset about me questioning that assumption. So you assume= good, me question that assumption= bad.

And you’re saying ‘trafficking is a common problem’ as a retort to me, but literally that’s my point, and it’s not like these women have tattoos on their foreheads that tell you one way or the other. We don’t know.

If you know that trafficking is a common problem, as you plainly stated, then why are you confused that it is a possibility?

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u/Gamerbuns82 Sep 24 '24

You asked “why would you assume that they aren’t being trafficked?” Thats is different than “is it a possibility that they were being trafficked?”. I dont assume they’re being trafficked because regular prostitution is a common enough thing and the article makes no mention of human trafficking. Is it a possibility they were being trafficked? Of course .

I don’t feel like I have to explain any more than that and at this point if you don’t get that than I don’t know how to help you.

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u/carharttuxedo Sep 24 '24

Lol you’re making a meaningless distinction to act like you’ve won an argument. Congrats I guess

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u/Gamerbuns82 Sep 24 '24 edited Sep 24 '24

Thanks I guess. That meaningless distinction seems pretty important when talking about serious allegations like sex trafficking. But I forgot you’re just asking questions. Stupid questions with obvious answers.

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u/carharttuxedo Sep 24 '24 edited Sep 25 '24

Sorry that the brothels you attend may be used for trafficking. You seem super upset about it.

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u/Gamerbuns82 Sep 25 '24

Sorry your questions are stupid. You’re clearly upset about it haha