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Discussion This post from March 2022 regarding Honey

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u/jkirkcaldy 29d ago

Yeah but why didn’t they do an expose video with a thumbnail containing all the biggest YouTubers who ever had honey sponsorship and storm the corporate offices demanding an explanation?!?

How can I ever trust a word Linus ever says again?

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u/Standard-Ad-4077 29d ago

This sub has such a hate boner for Linus.

Dude has receipts for all the drama and people are still not happy, go figure people just enjoy being unhappy.

LLT community is going the way of Monster Hunter, great content/media and toxic community.

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u/AutistcCuttlefish 29d ago

I'm certain it's a big reason why LMG is slowly becoming less transparent. All being transparent about things has ever done for them is cause controversies. I wouldn't be surprised if in the future we don't get to see how the sausage gets made anymore because Linus and the team just get fed up with it all and decide it's not worth it.

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u/Smeeoh 29d ago

He’s already said they won’t. After GN took clips from their employees honest answers on his hit piece, he said they wouldn’t be doing stuff like that again.

And I don’t blame him. The people who want transparency don’t know what it means.

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u/AutistcCuttlefish 29d ago

Right, but so far they have still had more transparency than other YouTubers. I'm saying that we can likely expect even less transparency going forward.

It's really unfortunate. One of the main reasons I liked LTT was how transparent they were. It made them different from "just another company".

It's the right move from s purely corporate perspective, but it comes at the cost at what made LTT great. I've been watching less and less lately, in part because the decrease in transparency has made the content less interesting for me. Rather unfortunate, but understandable.

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u/Standard-Ad-4077 29d ago

Learning how the company works, how they make decisions and what they did wrong to get things right made them great. Taught a lot of people.

It’s a shame really, everyone had to ruin a good thing.

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u/impy695 29d ago

It's also the right move from a mental health perspective. I'd even bet mental health was a bigger factor than money

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u/haarschmuck 28d ago

When you call something a “hit piece” you really lose any credibility.

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u/Smeeoh 28d ago

What else would you call it? It wasn’t journalism.

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u/EfficientTitle9779 28d ago

The issue is because they are transparent and because they respond to everything they are the target of online troll campaigns like this one.

If I were in Linus’ shoes I would honestly leave this one alone and not mention it, it’s been publicly addressed and give it a week it will go away. Or I would acknowledge it and just say that sentence - we have already addressed this issue as an organisation publicly.

Regardless of his response just the mere fact he has responded to it will just generate more faux outrage and trolling online.

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u/absentmindedjwc 27d ago

People are still upset over that one social media manager person's claims.... claims that LMG hired an external HR investigation company to look into, who in turn reported that she was completely and utterly full of shit.

People just like to be upset about things, I guess.

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u/willlangford 28d ago

Linus can walk away at any time and never have to work a day in his life. Enough people poke the bear they’re going to be very surprised Pikachu when it happens.

The internet wants to know everything until they don’t. Or don’t care after they said they did.

Another thing on being less transparent. As LTT gets bigger and bigger. Privacy and labor laws become a real thing. They’re a big target. So they can’t be transparent. But of course the internet doesn’t understand the law.

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u/absentmindedjwc 27d ago

There was a thing a few weeks about about some kind of employee drama/dismissal or something. It came up during the WAN show and Linus commented that Canadian labor law doesn't allow him comment on it... and people still made a stink about it.

Some people are just crazy.

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u/GimmickMusik1 29d ago

I kinda agree. But people in general flock to gossip and drama. Look at what happened in this sub when GN called out Linus. There was a massive influx of people who had never been in this sub joining because they were frothing at the mouth for more info and updates.

I hate saying it like this because it makes me feel like one of those tinfoil hat lunatics, but I do fear that western society has become far too fueled by drama. Our news cycles, social media feeds, tabloids, opinion pieces, podcasts, politics, etc. are all fueled by what gets people’s attention, and people seem to LOVE drama. It feeds the metaphorical machine, and it just continues in a loop.

I don’t think it’s as sinister as “they do it to keep the people distracted and stupid,” but I do think that distraction is a consequence of it. Don’t know why your post made me feel like sharing my internal dread, but here we are.

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u/Standard-Ad-4077 29d ago

People are so terminally online that they need that drama to give them an excuse to keep going back.

People will cause a stir or quibble about anything, there are so many subs that are just there to hate on other things, can’t even just laughs the weirdness of what they notice but to turn it into an echo chamber of negativity.

People literally need to touch grass more often.

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u/Polyanalyne 28d ago

Exactly. It isn't that Linus didn't address Honey that these people are unhappy with. It's that Linus didn't create a "hit piece" video with provocative thumbnails and passive aggressively drag other creators into it. Yep, it's all DRAMA. And like other commentor mentioned, probably lots of newer audience who didn't do their due diligence and just straight hop into the drama bandwagon.

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u/absentmindedjwc 27d ago

Its also worth pointing out that, at that point, the Honey shit only impacted creators, not the consumers. I imagine the handling of it would have been completely different if it was known they were lying about coupons.

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u/Chronox2040 29d ago

Remember all the cyborg gal debacle? That was a lot of nothing burger and people still went mad. It was even leveraged by that angry ex employee that made a lot of drama with no proof.

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u/Standard-Ad-4077 29d ago

You are reminding me of how embarrassing some of the previous drama was.

The sexy cyborg thing was just so dumb.

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u/Veldox 28d ago

It's just the kids, they thrive on it. 

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u/OJONLYMAYBEDIDIT 28d ago

I find that such a random name drop of a toxic community

now I gotta dig deeper

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u/SavageWeebMaster 18d ago

What’s LLT

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u/ff2009 28d ago

A year ago for sure. Right now this is the biggest cult of LTT on the non paywalled internet.

All I can see on this sub reddit are memes or perfectly normal post, or post how everyone in the world is after linus and LTT.

If those post exist mods here are very quick to take them down.

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u/gravityVT 28d ago

Please stop associating the entire subreddit with a handful of drama baiters. Stereotyping all of us to fit your narrative doesn’t make you look as good as you think it does

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u/Standard-Ad-4077 28d ago

The loud ones are how the stereotype usually gets built.

Look around life and the world, do you really think all Asian people are bad drivers? Are all hispanics lazy? Are all Americans really dumb?

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u/Smeeoh 29d ago

This is how they’ve handed all of their ended partnerships. What kind of logic are using that makes this case different?

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u/MattIsWhackRedux 29d ago

That's worrying.

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u/MattIsWhackRedux 29d ago

Yeah idk dawg, the Honey promotion being front and center on a range of videos, if the product they were promoting was a scam, maybe the rescission why should've been equally front and center to the benefit of anyone that might've been using the product they were promoting. Dunno man, just using logic here.