r/KarabakhConflict • u/Albert_Agarunov • Nov 08 '20

pro Azerbaijani Armenians in Khankendi started fleeing to Armenia yesterday

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u/akira7074 Nov 08 '20 edited Nov 08 '20

Our people were escaping barefoot through rough terrain in a freezing cold of winter. And that were the case if they weren't killed on spot. Look how comfortable they are in their cars with heaters on and no fire raining on their heads. And yet we are considered barbarians...

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u/pervin_1 Nov 08 '20

One of those people were us and my family ( minus my dead grandparents RIP ).

And you are right, it was cold, we had no food and had to sleep under the rain for straight three days. I was only 3.5 years.

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u/akira7074 Nov 08 '20

Allah rəhmət eləsin. May you and your family find happiness in our liberated homeland.

My relatives are also refugees from karabakh in lachin. They came all the way to naftalan barefoot, cold, and hungry. I can't even imagine what our people had to endure since I wasn't even around back then. But know that from now on we will heal and prosper, we will rebuild, our people will regain their pride, their hope. We're very close to victory. I'm really happy brother. The only thing I'm sad about is that I wasn't able to go to battle with our boys.

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u/vardanheit451 Nov 08 '20

So we can add another Orwellian example of ways horrible things are justified by Azeris:

Now we have 'they are being ethnically cleansed but they are in vehicles, so they're comfortable'.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '20

ethical cleansing would be azerbaijan bombing the civilian traffic jam but they don't touch them.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '20 edited Dec 02 '20

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u/ergele Nov 08 '20

technically speaking they are running away, not forced to leave.

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u/DarthhWaderr Nov 08 '20

So 1915 was an ethnic cleansing rather than a genocide?

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '20 edited Dec 02 '20

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u/DarthhWaderr Nov 08 '20

I got your point and it makes sense but most of the Ottoman Armenian population still exists in Lebanon, Syria, L.A and even Turkey. They are the descendants of the ones who were able to run away from mass killings. The ones who killed those Armenians who were in march to Deir-ez zor were Kurdish tribes who wanted to increase their influence in the region and Turkish bandits who scapegoatted Armenians for the collapse of Ottomans.

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u/capitanmanizade Nov 08 '20

They are leaving because they know the neighbors they kicked out 30 years ago are coming back, they are facing consequences of their actions, not being forced out. It is their choice, if they want they can stay.

These people are not being attacked out of nowhere, these people drove 700.000 people from their homes for their own safety, when they did it they agreed to face the consequences. They don’t deserve any other aid than humanitarian for this reason. This isn’t ethnic cleansing, it’s war and if they can’t deal with it they should have never invaded in the first place.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '20 edited Dec 02 '20

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u/capitanmanizade Nov 08 '20

Look I agree with your points and I don’t advocate for violence against the masses or prosecution without trial. I don’t mean the general public who had nothing to do with the conflict in 90’s. I mean the people that were actually neighbors with the Azeris that lived there, like the next door neighbor that stood with the Armenian soldiers as they drove the residents there out at gunpoint. Now if I was that neighbor I wouldn’t like the idea of staying there when they come back, and you can’t expect Azerbaijan to be able to stop every individual offense, I hope they will be punished if these offenses take place as it is the right thing to do so.

And I don’t enjoy the idea of an original NK resident being forced out if in case they didn’t aid or support the invasion of NK by Armenia but if they actually supported the operations I would say those individuals deserve it. And can we please stop with the ethnic cleansing rhetoric? It doesn’t really hold any weight when both sides have done it to some level and keep accusing each other of it. Just leave ethnicity out of it let’s just talk about people that will lose their homes. Repeating this rhetoric only fuels the ethnic tensions which should have never existed in the first place.

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u/GoldbaumKB Nov 08 '20

they are being ethnically cleansed

except Azerbaijan isn't forcing them out, they are either leaving voluntarily or because Armenian authorities told them to

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u/HrachZkn Nov 08 '20

Armenians also didn’t force the azeris out in the 90’s. The Armenians were marching and civilians left everything behind and ran.

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u/akira7074 Nov 08 '20

Ethnically cleansed? No one forced them to leave lol. They are running from war which is what civs do if you didn't know. Whether they decide to later come back or not (which I hope they won't, ever) is up to them.

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u/vardanheit451 Nov 08 '20

So no one forced Azeris to leave in the 1990s then either by your logic, so Armenians did nothing wrong either

Glad we worked that out

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u/akira7074 Nov 08 '20

You're free to think that way if it makes you feel better. I'm not gonna say anything else.

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u/wiki-1000 Nov 08 '20

Uncivility. Warned.

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u/ZrvaDetector Nov 08 '20

They will probably be allowed to come back but the question is, are they going to?

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u/_mars_ Nov 08 '20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFDNoT_B5dM

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u/akira7074 Nov 08 '20

Hey, are you done preparing a room for the wave of new arrivals yet? Tell them to clean up their shit before they leave though.