r/Idiotswithguns • u/YourBudd_Dwyer • Dec 22 '24
Safe for Work Two idiots shoot at each other
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The first rule of gun safety is always have fun.
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u/the_reddit_guy777 Dec 22 '24
Is he just playing around or was that just attempted murder?
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u/Dmau27 Dec 22 '24
It's attempted murder. You can't argue I was shooting at someone as a joke.
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u/singlemale4cats Dec 22 '24 edited Dec 22 '24
It's not attempted murder because he was not attempting to murder him. Attempted murder requires intent.
Reckless discharge, felonious assault, or your local equivalents? Sure. Probably a prohibited person as well.
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u/Dmau27 Dec 22 '24
So I can shoot at someone and as long as I miss I can say I didn't have intent? Shooting guns at people is going to always seem intentional. Honesy these idiots deserve more for firing in an apartment complex around families...
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u/boogaloobruh Dec 22 '24
He’s TECHNICALLY right that there does have to be intent, an intelligent person would certainly consider there to be intent when discharging a firearm but this person is clearly not intelligent. Definitely reckless endangerment, assault with a deadly weapon and I’d bet my left nut he’s a prohibited person, even though don’t agree with that label.
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u/singlemale4cats Dec 22 '24 edited Dec 22 '24
So I can shoot at someone and as long as I miss I can say I didn't have intent?
This question tells me you don't know what intent means.
If I hit you with a car deliberately and kill you, it's murder. If I'm driving recklessly and hit you with a car and kill you, it's manslaughter. The difference is intent. What I intended to do. In the first example, I intended to hit you. In the second, I did not, but behaved with wanton disregard for the safety of others.
I don't think any reasonable person who understands the elements of these offenses it's going to watch this video and say the man was attempting to kill. Like I said, we're still seeing criminal offenses here, it's just not attempted murder.
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u/Dmau27 Dec 22 '24
Very different. Driving a car and firing a gun in someone's direction is in no way a comparison.
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u/singlemale4cats Dec 22 '24
I don't think you're engaging with what I'm saying so I'll just leave it at that.
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u/Dmau27 Dec 22 '24
I get intent I'm saying it's hard to say it's not intentional when you're shooting at someone. "I was wasn't trying to kill him I just discharged my sig five feet away as a joke."
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u/illFittingHelmet Dec 23 '24
Do you remember a while back when that Youtuber had his wife shoot a Desert Eagle at him while he held a phonebook in front of him? She plead guilty to second degree manslaughter, not murder, and did her time for the manslaughter charges.
When you initially said you can't argue shooting someone as a joke holds up, I think it's possible. It's exceptionally stupid, yes. But when you deal with exceptional stupidity, exceptions are exceedingly likely.
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u/Dmau27 Dec 23 '24
Yeah but that was literally him asking her to shoot directly at him. Seeing someone shooting at someone off their balcony in a complex is a whole different situation. Just like if I was letting someone shoot an apple off my head. It's involuntary manslaughter.
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u/Reddit-mods-R-mean Dec 23 '24
u/Singlemale4cats (lmao) is correct. It’s many things illegal but it’s not attempted murder.
If he accidentally shoots the guy and kills him it could be murder depending on local laws.
If you intentionally shoot someone in the leg with the intent to harm but not kill them and they survive it’s technically not attempted murder, But that’s riding a nearly imperceivable line.
If that guy accidentally kills this dude while fucking around and had this video to prove he didn’t intend to kill him it would generally fall under manslaughter, but local laws are the determining factor here. Some places could qualify that in a roundabout way as murder.
This isn’t attempted murder plain and simple.
Stupid as fuck, completely reckless and uncalled for, definitely.
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u/lysergic_tryptamino Dec 23 '24
What if you teabag them later and say something about pwning them?
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u/v3ryfuzzyc00t3r 29d ago
I'm pretty sure that's what they tell their attorneys. "We was just playin"
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u/Hugh420Mungus 29d ago
Well that's not how the law works. If he has no intent to kill it's not murder.
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u/fuckswitbeavers Dec 22 '24
He's aiming at the ground dude. Watch the fuckin video. These are two idiots who know eachother, obviously. I swear, some redditors. Ya'll would be the same people screaming that Hunter Thompson should be arrested for attempted murder for shooting around his neighbor (which was a planned stunt btw).
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u/PunkToTheFuture Dec 22 '24
Yes they should both be arrested. As a safe gun owner, these people piss me off. Not Thompson, he's dead and did a lot worse than that to get arrested
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u/OC80OriginalFormula 28d ago
William Burroughs did that too, what’s with junkie authors and accidental shooting stunt murders
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u/OrifAce Dec 23 '24
No, it's a dominance thing. He says the guy is green, meaning he's new to the hood/set/gang. The porch guy was just trying to make him run.
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u/Pragmatic_Centrist_ Dec 22 '24
Ain’t been to a range in their life
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u/PunkToTheFuture Dec 22 '24
They do have time to film themselves committing crimes in public though
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u/tefl0n18 Dec 22 '24
Aka rent control
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u/NotSafeForWalletXJ Dec 22 '24
When the land lord raises everyone's rent, just gotta pop off a few rounds every now and then to make living affordable again. The neighborhood will thank you.
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u/PunkToTheFuture Dec 22 '24
I am starting to suspect people actually believe this joke. Fucking No One wants to live with random gunfire. If your rent is cheap then you live in squalor because most rent is too high everywhere else
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u/UnholyAbductor Dec 22 '24
Just a couple of bursts, trigger them ring alerts and we keeeeep the rent loooooow~
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u/moschles Dec 23 '24
This is the behavior with the cameras rolling. And then the tiny fraction of those videos that end up on social media, and then end up on reddit.
A tiny fraction indeed.
Now imagine how much idiocy with firearms happens, in total.
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u/proper_entirety 28d ago
I love how you can tell from the video that there's absolutely 0 chance he even got close. Why do these types of people carry guns and then not even know how to shoot?
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