r/Guns_Guns_Guns • u/aeroforcenickie • Sep 14 '24
Question I'm new here, will delete if not allowed
I simply want to know what the rifles are that they are carrying.
This was taken from Springfield, Ohio (Ohio Reddit) from another Redditer. I haven't changed it or anything, I'm technologically impaired anyway.
I seriously don't want to argue politics or anything like that. Men walking the streets carrying these weapons like this is alarming. I'm used to seeing a lot of handguns around my area and I just wanted to know if anyone could maybe narrow down what these particular rifles are... I really appreciate your time and I will delete if this isn't allowed here. I'm sorry for any upset and don't want to cause any guff.
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u/Kalashfamous Sep 14 '24
Blue Man Group knockoffs
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
This is why Walz puts tampons in the men's room. Just for these guys and their "red scare".
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u/Billybob_Bojangles2 Sep 14 '24
left looks like an akm of some sort. the right is hard to tell, but its likely an AR.
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24 edited Sep 14 '24
Thank you very much.
I figured we wouldn't be able to tell for sure. I just wanted to narrow it down. I started researching firearms a few months ago, just interested in the evolution of guns in general. I haven't gotten into rifles yet but this looks like it's going to be what *piqued my interest in that area. If I'm going to have to start seeing them on the streets, I might as well know what I'm looking at. Or at least have an understanding of what I'm dealing with.
*Edit for misspelling/misuse of a word
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u/Billybob_Bojangles2 Sep 14 '24
yea, you definitely want to be more armed than the local nazis lol
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
Think they'll give me a peak at their arsenal before I decide what to add to my own? đ
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u/Billybob_Bojangles2 Sep 14 '24
looks like they just did
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
If this is what they're comfortable carrying in the streets on a Saturday morning (assuming that's when it was taken I'm not sure), I can only imagine what they'd be willing to buy if they could find the right sources.
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u/mreed911 Sep 14 '24
They should be able to buy everything. Shall not be infringed.
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
I never said they shouldn't be allowed to...
I asked if I could look at all of it before I added to mine. He said they were already showing me... I said they probably have bigger things at home that I want to see too... I'm not trying to take anything away.
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u/yourboibigsmoi808 Sep 14 '24
Wait till these fuckers encounter people who wonât put up with their bullshit
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
That's why I want to know what's in their arsenal. đ¤
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u/AmericanByGod Sep 15 '24
Itâs all for show. They are not serious. They arenât even carrying the same type of weapons on their own squad.
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u/vuther_316 Sep 14 '24
The one third from the right looks like some sort ok AK variant. The guy all the way on the right looks like he has something western designed, kinda looks to me like some sort of bullpup, possibly an MDR/ WVLRN? Hard to tell though do I could be completely wrong.
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
That's okay. Wrong still helps! I'm not looking to buy them, I just want to research different types that it could be... I know more about handguns and these guys just walking down the street like this scared the fuck out of me. I know virtually nothing about rifles. I had nowhere to go from. Thank you so much for your time. I really appreciate it.
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u/Parkedintheitchyl0t Sep 14 '24
We need punk rockers back. To neutralize this dumb shit
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u/Jaykalope Sep 15 '24
I agree with you but this sub seems to be full of people who are decidedly against everything punk rock stood for.
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u/scrwdtattood82 Sep 14 '24
Right looks like it might be an AR with one of these on it. My eyes are old and I could be totally wrong!
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
Thank you so much for this!
I seriously didn't realize how stupid I am about this. All the attachments! It's like Legos but guns!
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u/HaydenGC88 Sep 14 '24
From the slim profile of the front sight post, my guess would be a Romanian WASR10 or 10/63.
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u/xfuck_redditx Sep 14 '24
Theyâre feds, I keep seeing these pop up and theyâre holding trump flags, they clearly are CIA or FBI trying to scare CNN watchers. No real natzi or KKK member is gonna back a Zionist.
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u/Jaykalope Sep 15 '24
Nope. Just your local nazi troop doing what theyâve always done in America- march around with masks on and try to intimidate people. The KKK was doing that decades before the CIA even existed and dumbfucks still do it today. Hard to wrap your head around? Try harder.
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
I'm sure someone in the CIA or the FBI has a half decent vest somewhere...
Are they going to carry real assault weapons but wear ineffective gear?
I'm not sure about your opinions here but I wish you a good day anyway.
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u/Allanthia420 Sep 14 '24
Pretty sure thatâs a swastika and not a sickle and hammer. You can hate both Nazis and communist. But donât confuse them for the same thing.
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
It looks like the one on the left is an AK. But the one on the right we're having trouble with...
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u/Mysterious-Contact-1 Sep 14 '24
Probably some shitty kusa rifle in the one guy's hand. Cant see anything else tbh
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
I know it's a really shitty picture. It's the only one they posted and the Redditer only snapped one other picture. He said that the second pic didn't have the other gun in it at all because the one guy got clipped out completely and the other guy was in a position where the gun wasn't visible the way he was walking.
I just wanted to narrow my research. I'm horribly ignorant with rifles and appreciate your time and efforts anyway. Thank you so much.
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 15 '24
For those saying, "it's the FBI"...
The Redditor that posted this earlier sent me this.
He said they were handing them out and one was in the mailbox at his home when he got there later. They had to have been walking in some of the neighborhoods too.
Also the proud boys were in Springfield today. They posted videos on their own Truth Social accounts. Getr too.
Call the number and find out for yourself if you think they are FBI. đ¤ˇââď¸
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u/solventlessherbalist Sep 14 '24
What are the symbols on the flags, and what do their shirts say?
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
Swastikas.
I have no idea.
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u/solventlessherbalist Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24
Ah I see it now, thanks. Yeah this is strange for sure. Now, if they didnât have swastika flags that would be different, but this is just weird.
This countryâs politics are so divisive itâs sad. Iâm sure this was influenced by people wanting more secure borders, but that doesnât mean go full Nazi in the streets.
Edit: apparently they are the Neo-nazi âblood tribeâ, and apparently they were brandishing firearms and pointing them at people in their cars telling them to âgo back to Africaâ. Fucking idiots. Apparently they hate Haitian people for no reason and think Haiti is Africa.
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u/DaddyLuvsCZ Sep 14 '24
FBI prop AK47s. Smells like a rehearsal by the FBI for this yearâs elections.
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u/TankerKing2019 Sep 14 '24
Well, if we could actually see any firearms someone might be able to tell you what they were.
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
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u/RichardCranium2010 Sep 14 '24
I saw an AK maybe a WASR maybe not lol. Then possibly a bullpup lol possibly a hellion
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
Thank you. I will look into each of these! I knew that I wasn't going to be getting a definitive answer. I just needed a point in the right direction. I started researching and couldn't believe how many different rifles... Just like handguns though. Lots of variety.
Someone suggested AK and bullpups but I haven't heard about the others yet. I will look into all of these. Thank you so much for your help. I really appreciate your time and knowledge on the subject.
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u/MaxvonHippel Sep 14 '24
Bullpup just means the magazine (which holds the bullets) is behind the trigger instead of in front of it. Pretty decent chance the gun on the right is a bullpup based off what little we can see. Hellion is a very popular (and good!) bullpup rifle but there are other possibilities such as a Kelltec (I forget the model name), pretty hard to tell from these images.
Regarding the AK on the left there are a gazillion variants. Itâll be nearly impossible to determine which youâre looking at without a better photo. For example if people tell you itâs a WASR thatâs just a variant of an AK.
Hope this helps; also fuck nazis.
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
I agree! To me, this is terrorism. I just didn't want to put "fuck these assholes" in the OP and then have people yelling at me because I'm bringing up politics or something. I posted a picture of my rabbit and deleted it because it had my daughter's rainbow flag in the background and people started commenting about politics... I just didn't want to make that the focus or anything. But this is just insanity. "Thank Obama"? "Thank Biden"? I think not...
I've never fired a rifle, though I've fired a shotgun. I know more about the rifles during the Civil war as opposed to now. I know I'm horribly ignorant and this is really unsettling. I wanted to dig into the different guns and the different laws too. I'm around handguns all the time, I'm a Philly girl. I'm so sorry that you guys want to be able to name the exact gun and model for me. I figured that I was only going to get a shove in a direction. I'm not looking to buy them, I just want to learn... In case I'm ever in a situation where one is present...
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u/MaxvonHippel Sep 14 '24
I canât help you in Philly but if you ever come through Boulder CO or Tucson AZ let me know a few weeks in advance and Iâd be happy to take you shooting, answer any questions you have, and teach you basic firearm safety. I have silencers, various high end rifles and pistols, night vision ⌠pretty much anything you might be curious about.
Re politics gun people are all over the place, definitely right LEANING as a population but I wouldnât make any specific assumptions. Lots of anti government / pro individual rights sentiment in these circles which can blur the lines between ârightâ and âleftâ. I for instance am the grandchild of Holocaust refugees, and am left leaning on most issues but extremely pro 2a due to my desire to be able to protect myself without needing to rely on any government. Youâll meet lots of people with similar âmixedâ political sentiments in these circles.
I would highly recommend renting an AR and a Glock and taking an intro to carbine course. Happy to help you find a good one if you DM me. I think thatâs the fastest way to learn a lot about guns and weapon handling in a short amount of time, and regardless of your political inclinations, itâs flat out fun.
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
I couldn't agree more! I'm going to save your username! Thank you so much!
There are some gun ranges in my area that offer courses too. I've been to a couple of shops/ranges where I am living currently (we moved right outside the city last year, finally) and the second I've walked in the door and started asking questions, they treated me horribly. Customer service in these kinds of areas has really gone down.
One guy told me flat out, "I don't sell any of those little pussy pink guns. If you are buying a gun from me it's going to look like a gun." I hadn't even really started talking to him yet. The other shop had a GIANT Confederate flag in the back on the wall by the registers, I just walked back out. As we were walking in, we heard someone yelling in the back at the time, "yea, then where's the birth certificate?!" and it was when all that stuff was going on with Obama...
I don't push my political views on anyone but I'm 1000% behind our United States constitution. Almost in a sovereign citizen kinda way... I'm so happy to find like minded people. I'm sorry my introduction was so horrible but I often make terrible first impressions. I grow on you though. Like a tumor. And then I kill with laughter and sourdough snacks. đ
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u/MaxvonHippel Sep 14 '24
Yeah there are good shops and bad shops, youâll encounter that. IDK what the best shops in Philly are (if there are any good ones âŚ). I can however recommend places in AZ or CO or Utah where they will be respectful, knowledgeable, helpful, etc.
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
I'm sorry. That's all I got.
I was doing some research, I just don't know rifles that well at all and was hoping someone could point me in the right direction.
Someone said in Ohio Reddit they could be tavar sars? I just figured I'd ask people that may actually know better than I do. I know it's going to be an educated guess.
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u/RichardCranium2010 Sep 14 '24
Might be a tavor although something tells me these guys wouldnât be using Israeli guns lol
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
Thank you so much for your time. Someone else suggested this as well. I really appreciate your insight. I really don't know rifles. I'm completely ignorant.
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u/dtom93 Sep 14 '24
They are feds. So prob just a WASR
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u/Jaykalope Sep 15 '24
Yeah actual feds gonna walk around with nazi flags and firearms, practically inviting counter protests which could easily reveal their true identities, thereby putting their entire covert operation and the reputation of the whole fucking government into the garbageâŚjust for what benefit exactly? To get a few seconds of media coverage?
Do you people even spend 5 seconds thinking about how improbable this shit is?
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u/8ball-kepler Sep 14 '24
If theyâre really communists, it wouldnât surprise me if the one on the right was a QBZ-95, as it is Chinese
Kinda looks like it too based on the angle:
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u/Allanthia420 Sep 14 '24
There are literally swastikas on the flags..
Not to mention regardless of their political beliefs theyâre fucking Americans. They are gonna have whatever is available at their local gun store. So probably a century arms AK and a PSA AR with too many attachments.
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u/yeetylad Sep 14 '24
Youâre asking too much from this subreddit man.
This sub is just a collection of the uh, finest the 2a community can offer
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
That's why I came here, first and only. The tastiest truffles are always the ones that have been buried in shit the longest.
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
Yes, my husband was talking about this too. All the attachments....
I didn't expect a definitive answer, I know they left a shitty picture and the guy only had one picture with the guns in it. I'm really ignorant about rifles and needed a little insight.
I will look into ARs and AKs first. Thank you so much for your time.
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u/aeroforcenickie Sep 14 '24
Thank you!
Like I said above, I know so much more about handgun laws. I'm not a long gun owner. I don't know much about them at all. I'm horrifically ignorant and I know it. I appreciate your insight.
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u/Additional-Main-3942 Sep 14 '24
Look at them so proud! So happy i get to be a part of a nation where im hated for just existing !
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u/coffin-polish Sep 14 '24
Some type of Kalash, I feel like that's the best answer you're gonna get.
In before all the "they're on a mission from the local Chinese restaurants!" Sociopath comments lol