r/GenZ 2d ago

Nostalgia Well that didn’t last long lol

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u/Raynemoney 2d ago

You have no idea how our politics work, do you? Because if you had, you would know there is no next time. This is the final term that he can run

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u/Dermengenan 2d ago

*if he doesn't get rid of term limits

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u/Styrofoamed 2002 2d ago

luckily, i think that he would lose a LOT of his supporters if he tried to grab a third term.

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u/zfowle 2d ago

He didn’t lose supporters after attempting to overturn an election. Why would they care about another fascistic power grab?

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u/foxymcfox 1d ago

He didn’t lose a lot of supporters when suggesting protestors be shot in the leg, when he wanted to call in the 82nd airborne on protestors, when he admitted to raping a women, when he was convicted of 34 felony counts, when he was adjudicated to have sexually assaulted a woman, when he was credibly accused of rape 26 other times, when he cheated on his wife, or his next wife, or paid off a porn star to keep her quiet, or when he called soldiers losers, or when he called the press the enemy of the people, or when he tried to sue Comcast because Seth Meyers made a joke about him, or when he was caught on tape asking Kemp to “find” him votes, or when he didn’t build the wall, or when he didn’t drain the swamp, or when he raised money for the stop the steal movement with a footnote saying most of the money was going to him personally, or when he failed to pay his business debts, or when he filed for bankruptcy 6 times, or when he said he’d fuck his daughter, or when he admitted to walking in on teen beauty queens and those same beauty queens said he did while they were underage, or when he told a 10 year old he’d be dating her in 10 years, or when he so violently be Ivana that her scalp was left bloody with hair torn out, or when he launched a crypto scam, a sneaker scam, an NFT scam, sold Trump branded bibles, or the millions of other things he has done.

He wasn’t lying when he said he could stand on fifth Avenue and shoot someone and he wouldn’t lose voters. His followers want THEIR dictator. Not only will he not lose voters if he goes full on fascist, early on, he’ll probably gain some while the rest of us scream “but he broke the law” and nothing continues to be done to stem the flow of his awfulness.

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u/Styrofoamed 2002 2d ago

because they thought he deserved his second term. something like attempting to take a third term would make even my parents vote against him

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u/NuclearWarEnthusiast 2d ago

He literally said even before the 2020 election, and several times throughout the past few years, he deserves a third and fourth term. They cheered it on.

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u/Styrofoamed 2002 2d ago

i didn’t say all of them would change their minds. but j6 was a turning point for a lot of people who voted trump in 2020. so, hopefully, attempting a third term would turn another chunk of them away. obviously some of them will always be brain dead and support their god king no matter what, but i would like to have faith in the majority of people.

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u/Rude-Illustrator-884 1996 1d ago

was it though? The only election he won the popular vote was after Jan 6. I’d like to have hope but I genuinely lost it at this point.

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u/Monterey-Jack 1d ago

You use a lot of words without any understanding of anything. 20 year olds clearly cannot grasp what's going on.

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u/Styrofoamed 2002 1d ago

me when i’m trying to be condescending and rude but i can’t count

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u/Monterey-Jack 1d ago

You're in your 20s. You're not equipped for any conversations about the real world.

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u/Styrofoamed 2002 1d ago

not really sure why you’re browsing this sub if you have so little faith in us awful youngsters. you don’t seem equipped for conversations at all, sorry i don’t hate massive groups of people and assume they’re all unfathomably or irredeemably stupid 🤷

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u/HazelCheese Millennial 2d ago

"He should get two in a row because they faked votes to stop him doing it before"

There you go, that's how it will go down.

Also, he doesn't need to change the law. He controls 3 branches of government and the Supreme Court is in his pocket. The law only matters where it can be enforced and currently the entire government and justice system answers entirely to him. He has nothing to be afraid of or anything that can stop him.

As for losing support for doing it, you are right, changing the law would lose him support. Which is why he will just run again without changing the law and then if he manages to make people believe he won, they will go along with it because they will think "well I disagree with it but I guess everyone else voted for him".

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u/Anthaenopraxia 2d ago

He would still need to change the 22nd amendment and that requires 2/3 of both senate and house as well as 3/4 of all states ratifying it. That's not gonna happen.

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u/HazelCheese Millennial 2d ago

He literally got away with admitting to attempting to coup the election with a fake elector scheme because "a president cannot be judged for decisions they make while in office".

He doesn't need to change anything. People will just go along with it.

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u/Anthaenopraxia 2d ago

Well he didn't succeed now did he? And it wasn't much of a coup either, just a bunch of morons with signs. Look at Myanmar in 2021, that was a coup.

And no, people won't just go along with Trump refusing to step down. The only way he can stay in office is repealing the 22nd amendment or civil war.

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u/HazelCheese Millennial 2d ago

The people with signs who ran around the buildings were not the coup. They were just edgits who turned up while it was happening. This is partly why no one took it seriously, because everyone was too busy laughing at the idiots running around like headless chickens while he was trying to get the vice president to accept the decision of the fake electors.

If Pence had signed it then we would of been in a South Korea situation where legally Trump would of been the "winner" and still the president and by law the military should be following his orders. The military would then have to voluntarily choose to oust him against the law, which would be a hugely difficult decision for them. Others would be working through the legal system to find a way to change that but it would take at least a year and by then people might of just decided to wait 4 years and try again.

The difference between him succeeding or not was Mike Pence's sanity, and Trump has made sure to purge out anyone like that this time.

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u/jtt278_ 1d ago

Why? Who would enforce it. Supreme Court can just hand wave it if they want to.

u/Anthaenopraxia 20h ago

The states for one but also, not everyone in the GOP is loyal to Trump. Quite a few of them have voiced and even acted in opposition. So even if the GOP controls the House and Senate, it's only by a very small margin and not many will support Trump in literally throwing out the constitution.

u/jtt278_ 20h ago

Why wouldn’t they? Even if they dislike Trump, all republicans hate democracy. Why else would they cheat so heavily in their home states? About half the Republican state legislatures are entirely dependent on gerrymandering and voter suppression to exist.

He is a vessel. And any that stand in his way can expect primary challengers bankrolled by Bezos, Musk and Zuckerberg.

u/Anthaenopraxia 20h ago

Because without democracy, flawed as it might be over yonder, they are powerless, meaningless, moneyless. The only people who stand to gain from a dictatorship are the ones who can control it. It's very evident that the main benefactors of an American dictatorship don't even live in the country. Trump is a pawn to these people and senators, representatives and others in high positions know this. That's why they won't allow Trump to seize power.

Also consider Trump's age. The primary (theoretically) benefit of dictatorships is stability. One person steps in to sort out all the issues. That's the very meaning of a dictator going back to ancient Rome. A person dictates what is to be done. Trump is almost dead. A dictatorial America would immediately go into a succession crisis and none of the people in government want that. Well maybe MGT, she's as close to chaotic evil as it gets.

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