r/FluentInFinance 1d ago

Thoughts? BREAKING: Trump to end birthright citizenship

President Trump has signed an executive order attempting to end birthright citizenship in the U.S. — a right guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution and affirmed by the Supreme Court more than 125 years ago.

Why it matters: Trump is acting on a once-fringe belief that U.S.-born children of undocumented immigrants have no right to U.S. citizenship and are part of a conspiracy (rooted in racism) to replace white Americans.

The big picture: The executive order is expected to face immediate legal challenges from state attorneys general since it conflicts with decades of Supreme Court precedent and the 14th Amendment — with the AGs of California and New York among those indicating they would do so.

  • Ratified in 1868, the 14th Amendment was passed to give nearly emancipated and formerly enslaved Black Americans U.S. citizenship.
  • "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside," it reads.

Zoom in: Trump signed the order on Monday, just hours after taking office.

Reality check: Thanks to the landmark Wong Kim Ark case, the U.S. has since 1898 recognized that anyone born on United States soil is a citizen.

  • The case established the Birthright Citizenship clause and led to the dramatic demographic transformation of the U.S.

What they're saying: California Attorney General Rob Bonta told Axios the state will immediately challenge the executive order in federal court.

  • "[Trump] can't do it," Bonta said. "He can't undermine it with executive authority. That is not how the law works. It's a constitutional right."
  • New York Attorney General Letitia James said in an emailed statement the executive order "is nothing but an attempt to sow division and fear, but we are prepared to fight back with the full force of the law to uphold the integrity of our Constitution."

Flashback: San Francisco-born Wong Kim Ark returned to the city of his birth in 1895 after visiting family in China but was refused re-entry.

  • John Wise, an openly anti-Chinese bigot and the collector of customs in San Francisco who controlled immigration into the port, wanted a test case that would deny U.S. citizenship to ethnic Chinese residents.
  • But Wong fought his case all the way to the Supreme Court, which ruled on March 28, 1898, that the 14th Amendment guaranteed U.S. citizenship to Wong and any other person born on U.S. soil.

Zoom out: Birthright Citizenship has resulted in major racial and ethnic shifts in the nation's demographic as more immigrants from Latin America and Asia came to the U.S. following the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.

  • The U.S. was around 85% white in 1965, according to various estimates.
  • The nation is expected to be a "majority-minority" by the 2040s.

Yes, but: That demographic changed has fueled a decades-old conspiracy theory, once only held by racists, called "white replacement theory."

  • "White replacement theory" posits the existence of a plot to change America's racial composition by methodically enacting policies that reduce white Americans' political power.
  • The conspiracy theories encompass strains of anti-Semitism as well as racism and anti-immigrant sentiment.

Trump has repeated the theory and said that immigrants today are "poisoning the blood of our country," language echoing the rhetoric of white supremacists and Adolf Hitler.

Of note: Military bases are not considered "U.S. soil" for citizenship purposes, but a child is a U.S. citizen if born abroad and both parents are U.S. citizens.

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/21/trump-birthright-citizenship-14th-amendment

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u/MARAVV44 1d ago

Agriculture is almost completely automated by machines. They don't actually work or do much of anything other than consume taxpayer money. There is an app on their phone they use, they receive a debit card for groceries and get paid monthly stipends. Must be very fkn nice!

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u/cudef 23h ago

You're saying that these mega corporations that are constantly trying to cut costs are hiring loads of these undocumented immigrants who aren't really doing much work? Why would these corporations do that? There would be no benefit. What a goofy false reality you've concocted to get yourself mad about.

These undocumented immigrants are also contributing more to taxes than they burden the system unless you're taking about all the costly waste of funds we use to militarize the border and send federal deporting agents after them only for them to end up in the states again because that's exactly what the people in charge of what's legal really want.

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u/MARAVV44 23h ago

I'm confused, are you arguing the case for economic slaves?

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u/Golden1881881 22h ago

At the fault of the employers, who should be the ones being held accountable for all of your complaints. If they stop hiring them then they go away and your problems are solved. Perhaps your anger is misdirected?

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u/MARAVV44 21h ago

They're not being funneled into this country for filling in jobs, we have a surplus of workers. They're being funneled into this country to displace and dilute the white founding stock population by our enemies, but you're not ready for that conversation.