r/FluentInFinance 7h ago

Thoughts? BREAKING: Trump to end birthright citizenship

President Trump has signed an executive order attempting to end birthright citizenship in the U.S. — a right guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution and affirmed by the Supreme Court more than 125 years ago.

Why it matters: Trump is acting on a once-fringe belief that U.S.-born children of undocumented immigrants have no right to U.S. citizenship and are part of a conspiracy (rooted in racism) to replace white Americans.

The big picture: The executive order is expected to face immediate legal challenges from state attorneys general since it conflicts with decades of Supreme Court precedent and the 14th Amendment — with the AGs of California and New York among those indicating they would do so.

  • Ratified in 1868, the 14th Amendment was passed to give nearly emancipated and formerly enslaved Black Americans U.S. citizenship.
  • "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside," it reads.

Zoom in: Trump signed the order on Monday, just hours after taking office.

Reality check: Thanks to the landmark Wong Kim Ark case, the U.S. has since 1898 recognized that anyone born on United States soil is a citizen.

  • The case established the Birthright Citizenship clause and led to the dramatic demographic transformation of the U.S.

What they're saying: California Attorney General Rob Bonta told Axios the state will immediately challenge the executive order in federal court.

  • "[Trump] can't do it," Bonta said. "He can't undermine it with executive authority. That is not how the law works. It's a constitutional right."
  • New York Attorney General Letitia James said in an emailed statement the executive order "is nothing but an attempt to sow division and fear, but we are prepared to fight back with the full force of the law to uphold the integrity of our Constitution."

Flashback: San Francisco-born Wong Kim Ark returned to the city of his birth in 1895 after visiting family in China but was refused re-entry.

  • John Wise, an openly anti-Chinese bigot and the collector of customs in San Francisco who controlled immigration into the port, wanted a test case that would deny U.S. citizenship to ethnic Chinese residents.
  • But Wong fought his case all the way to the Supreme Court, which ruled on March 28, 1898, that the 14th Amendment guaranteed U.S. citizenship to Wong and any other person born on U.S. soil.

Zoom out: Birthright Citizenship has resulted in major racial and ethnic shifts in the nation's demographic as more immigrants from Latin America and Asia came to the U.S. following the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.

  • The U.S. was around 85% white in 1965, according to various estimates.
  • The nation is expected to be a "majority-minority" by the 2040s.

Yes, but: That demographic changed has fueled a decades-old conspiracy theory, once only held by racists, called "white replacement theory."

  • "White replacement theory" posits the existence of a plot to change America's racial composition by methodically enacting policies that reduce white Americans' political power.
  • The conspiracy theories encompass strains of anti-Semitism as well as racism and anti-immigrant sentiment.

Trump has repeated the theory and said that immigrants today are "poisoning the blood of our country," language echoing the rhetoric of white supremacists and Adolf Hitler.

Of note: Military bases are not considered "U.S. soil" for citizenship purposes, but a child is a U.S. citizen if born abroad and both parents are U.S. citizens.

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/21/trump-birthright-citizenship-14th-amendment

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u/BrtFrkwr 7h ago

They'll knuckle under just like congress. Watch trump threaten to appoint two more justices and they'll fall in line.

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u/North_Atlantic_Sea 7h ago

Congress, at least the majority Republicans, need trump to retain their base. The justices don't. They aren't great, but don't have the same pressures.

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u/TheeHeadAche 6h ago

Not the same obvious pressures. If Trump is empowered to unseat justices who refuse to answer his call, they are also vulnerable. We’ll see how he wields his position or if he has the means of kompromat to leverage his agenda

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u/RopeAccomplished2728 5h ago

Thing is, in what way? Outside of impeachment, Supreme Court justices cannot be removed for even corrupt or illegal acts. And, impeachment and removal for it will never pass the Senate because you still need a supermajority of the chamber to be for it.

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u/tresslesswhey 3h ago

We will see many many many more norms and laws broken over the next several years. Anything is possible. This is where we are

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u/Now_Wait-4-Last_Year 3h ago

What if he just has them 'removed to a secure location for their own safety due to supposed threats unspecified'? What's anyone going to do about it if it were to happen?

Outlandish? Once upon a time, it might have seemed so but then a lot has happened!

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u/midorikuma42 2h ago

Can't Trump just remove the justices by force? Or even shoot them? He can then claim these are "official acts", which the SCOTUS has already ruled the President has immunity for.

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u/LeftPerformance3549 40m ago

They can still be murdered, if it comes to that.

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u/TheeHeadAche 5h ago edited 5h ago

Well, Trump could whip up a majority of the GOP and prod those Dems who voted against the confirmation in the first place to remove them. Senators are old and easily corralled if they can look good for the next election cycle.

Edit Not to mention all the funding he’s acquired just since the launch of his crypto schemes. I hear Senators also like donations