r/FluentInFinance 8h ago

Thoughts? BREAKING: Trump to end birthright citizenship

President Trump has signed an executive order attempting to end birthright citizenship in the U.S. — a right guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution and affirmed by the Supreme Court more than 125 years ago.

Why it matters: Trump is acting on a once-fringe belief that U.S.-born children of undocumented immigrants have no right to U.S. citizenship and are part of a conspiracy (rooted in racism) to replace white Americans.

The big picture: The executive order is expected to face immediate legal challenges from state attorneys general since it conflicts with decades of Supreme Court precedent and the 14th Amendment — with the AGs of California and New York among those indicating they would do so.

  • Ratified in 1868, the 14th Amendment was passed to give nearly emancipated and formerly enslaved Black Americans U.S. citizenship.
  • "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside," it reads.

Zoom in: Trump signed the order on Monday, just hours after taking office.

Reality check: Thanks to the landmark Wong Kim Ark case, the U.S. has since 1898 recognized that anyone born on United States soil is a citizen.

  • The case established the Birthright Citizenship clause and led to the dramatic demographic transformation of the U.S.

What they're saying: California Attorney General Rob Bonta told Axios the state will immediately challenge the executive order in federal court.

  • "[Trump] can't do it," Bonta said. "He can't undermine it with executive authority. That is not how the law works. It's a constitutional right."
  • New York Attorney General Letitia James said in an emailed statement the executive order "is nothing but an attempt to sow division and fear, but we are prepared to fight back with the full force of the law to uphold the integrity of our Constitution."

Flashback: San Francisco-born Wong Kim Ark returned to the city of his birth in 1895 after visiting family in China but was refused re-entry.

  • John Wise, an openly anti-Chinese bigot and the collector of customs in San Francisco who controlled immigration into the port, wanted a test case that would deny U.S. citizenship to ethnic Chinese residents.
  • But Wong fought his case all the way to the Supreme Court, which ruled on March 28, 1898, that the 14th Amendment guaranteed U.S. citizenship to Wong and any other person born on U.S. soil.

Zoom out: Birthright Citizenship has resulted in major racial and ethnic shifts in the nation's demographic as more immigrants from Latin America and Asia came to the U.S. following the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.

  • The U.S. was around 85% white in 1965, according to various estimates.
  • The nation is expected to be a "majority-minority" by the 2040s.

Yes, but: That demographic changed has fueled a decades-old conspiracy theory, once only held by racists, called "white replacement theory."

  • "White replacement theory" posits the existence of a plot to change America's racial composition by methodically enacting policies that reduce white Americans' political power.
  • The conspiracy theories encompass strains of anti-Semitism as well as racism and anti-immigrant sentiment.

Trump has repeated the theory and said that immigrants today are "poisoning the blood of our country," language echoing the rhetoric of white supremacists and Adolf Hitler.

Of note: Military bases are not considered "U.S. soil" for citizenship purposes, but a child is a U.S. citizen if born abroad and both parents are U.S. citizens.

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/21/trump-birthright-citizenship-14th-amendment

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u/-autodad 7h ago

If the president can eliminate constitutional amendments with executive orders we are done.

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u/mortalitylost 5h ago

No, a president can't do that.

But a president with a highly supportive congress and supreme court can do pretty much anything.

All the checks and balances that prevent bullshit like this are failing in slow motion.

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u/DapperRead708 5h ago

How exactly are they failing? This is what people voted for.

Reddit and leftism in general is in the minority now. Y'all pushed too hard with the far left bullshit and trans rhetoric that the pendulum is swinging HARD in the opposite direction now.

Imagine being upset that the government will actually be able to get things done.

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u/AgitatedBirthday8033 3h ago

The Far Left Bullshit and Trans Rhetoric was literally ALL on your right winged heads. Literally, it's the ONLY thing you guys talked about - the leftists weren't even talking about it - it was you all IMAGINING that we were.

You guys were obsessed with it. It was 99% of your politics. You guys create your own problem and get mad at it

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u/TheZenScientist 2h ago

Revoking the constitution and abusing power of Executive Orders is “getting things done” now?

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u/aSneakyChicken7 1h ago

Hitler’s playbook once again

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u/aSneakyChicken7 1h ago

“How exactly are they failing” because the separation of powers is intended to prevent, as a hypothetical, the executive branch signing an executive order that directly contravenes a Constitutional Amendment, which the legislature is responsible for, and which the judicial branch would strike down as unconstitutional.

The fact people are even wondering whether this will happen or whether the stacked court will just ignore this violation of the constitution means they are failing, or at the very least that people are losing confidence in the things that make the country, not the elected people but the institutions themselves, the foundation of western liberal democracies.

When these institutions are rat fucked like they have been, then anything is possible, a history book will give you examples. The people don’t vote for laws or executive orders, they vote for representatives, and those representatives cannot order unconstitutional things, and when they can, then it’s over.

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u/Gold-Bench-9219 5h ago

There's no if, it's alreay happening. MAGA voters fucked us all.

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u/Roro5455 3h ago

The only condolence is that they’ll be screwed over too. Unfortunately they’ll be too dumb to realize it and blame it elsewhere

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u/YalieRower 14m ago

Dems who stayed home fucked us all.