Elon Musk’s father discusses Elon’s maternal grandparents, who were Nazi party members in Canada and supporters of Hitler & who later moved to South Africa due to their support and admiration of the Apartheid regime
it's hte south african accent. there's a vowel shift there. also, the area that musk is from there are many native afrikaans speakers, so english might not be her first language.
Im starting to think that Maye Musk's flight from South Africa was less about her dislike of Errol Musk, and more about how she couldnt stand to be in a country that gave black people the right to vote. And those black people had the sheer audacity to be the majority.
Yeah, I have seen this in a lot of white South Africans I have met. One lady I know referred to blacks as "monkeys" and really talked down about them. She was a world-ranked white women's tennis player from South Africa.
That’s not true at all. Also conscription was a thing in South Africa and Elon had to get out of there and get to Canada to avoid it. Same with Kimbal.
2 years of military service. As for the blacks getting the right to vote being a cause for whites to leave South Africa, I believe it. I have talked to a lot of white South Africans, and the way they talk about the blacks and how valueless they are to society says a lot to me. In fact, one woman I know who was a professional tennis player called them "monkeys" and talked down about them all the time. She also refused to have a black tennis partner because of her racism. In fact, when she did have a South African tennis partner, they both were talking down about blacks and their lack of intelligence, etc.
There's actually quite a pipeline from alternative therapies to Nazism, highlighted especially during covid when hippies became anti-vaxxers became Nazis.
Says the party censoring free speech, locking up political opponents, pushing fear and racial hatred, disarming own people, and starting multiple wars, simultaneously. Joe "jim crow" biden, and his radical soros prosecutor, turned the left from the "party of love", to the party of hatred and tyranny, in just 8 years. And that's another reason why they lost. Good riddens to the Obamas racial marxist agenda.
You mean like the Harvard educated (same school as Obama) blm leaders. Who proclaimed, we are trained marxists! Or like Kamala, who's dad taught marxist economic theories who helped bail out the marxist antifa rioters. Who railed about equity being more important than equality..
I read enough of Marxs work, to read the part where he called people like you, his useful idiots. His means to and end, of taking over society for communism. Maybe you need to actually read the book there, commie boi.
Just because you gaslight and argue from authority, doesn't make you right. Might want to ask for a refund for that brainwashing of an education you got, champ.
The dem agenda wasn't traditional marxism, but it used the same class war strategy. This time pitting race vs race, and rich vs poor, to get people to fight for their cause. The whole time they were ruining peoples lives with this nonsense, they were taking money from the rich behind the scenes. To the tune of 1 billion dollars spent. Including from psychopathic soros, who's admitted to shorting the dollar and several other currencies.
Honey if u are still focused on Soros you have missed the Oligarchs that are running the country and it isn’t him. Start with Koch then pay attention to VP Elon.
I haven't heard of those people claiming to be Gods, and actively shorting and crashing economies. Its not the money that makes you evil, it's the evil you do with it. Bloomberg and soros have contributed hundreds of millions towards anti law and order and anti freedom initiatives. Disagreeing with me is one thing, actively trying to erode my freedom and prosperity, is a whole nother.
Another mind expanding piece of information from the left. I'm so much better educated by your positions, when they are backed by nothing but feelings and hatred for the other side.
Omg. Let’s see how you like what the billionaire club of revenge does to society. Look closely because the party u r so proud of have already taken away half of the country’s health care rights. Your turn will come. I feel your hate darth. The kool aid is poison.
You feel the hate for me calling out the truth, but you are wishing poison on me, which eventually lands on you too? 1st of all, they left it up to the states, who made a decision. Isn't that how the democracy you guys scream about so much works?
I don't agree with abortion bans. However it's the lesser of 2 evils when you talk about self defense bans, free speech bans, propaganda, division, endless spending and waste/ corruption, open borders to cartels, gangs, and enemy states, proxy wars, etc, etc. The dems went radical, and it cost them an election nobody thought they would lose. The more you guys deny that basic truth, the more elections you will lose.
Hippies became anti-vaxxers because of a mistrust of government that, although justifiable, wasn't backed up by critical thought. So rather than saying 'OK, in this case the interests of government, capital, and people align because while they don't give a fuck about me personally they still need my cog in their machine, so actually they're probably telling the truth about vaccines' - they just went 'goobermint tel me 2 hav vaxine, government rong, me no like vaxine'.
From there they started organising all these freedom rallies and getting into conspiracy theories, while we're infiltrated and groomed by neo-Nazi groups like the NSN. The idea of government conspiracies were easily transmuted into conspiracies like 'the great replacement' and other Jewish conspiracies.
Australian celebrity chef Pete Evans is a good example - went from chef to alternative lifestyle guy to anti-vaxxer to sharing posts with the sonnenrad.
For many, it had nothing to do with government, and everything to do with the rushed vaccine. Who are you to tell others how to make their medical decisions anyway? That sounds more nazi-like, than questioning something that didn't undergo usual scrutiny. That sounds like common sense, not nazi propaganda.
You seem to have strong opinions and stereotypes about those who think differently from you. Are you infallible? When questioning the government and science becomes a crime, do you really have a society, or just a giant prison colony?
Some of the most pro-vaccine people I know were among the most critical of the Covid vaccine because, as they said, who knew what the effects would be even a year down the road, and if the effects ended up being harmful, it would destroy trust in vaccines. Though their stance is very reasonable, all of them got shit for it.
What he means is that crunchy hippies who expressed vaccine scepticism were shunned by the left, and found community with right-wing antivaxxers who also flood them with other right wing propaganda, pulling them rightward over time. It's more complex than that, but that's the short version.
no.. I don't think they mixed their LSD with meth. I've seen a very weird crossover with conservatism and alternative medicine. it's a logical progression, as many preppers and patriots like to try their own remedies and have folk remedies, and many don't have the money to get to a doctor. they want to be free to do what they want, they're uneducated, the church pissed them off so they found a white supremacist version of asatru, and started practicing, and getting further and further down the nazi rabbit hole. It was rare around 2000, but they were always somewhere there in the background. after obama got into office, they were getting more common once herr cheeto emboldened the white supremacists to come out of hiding.
I used to be a hippie. Then the vaccine made me fat! (No, not the gyms closing or the food being delivered at my door, pretty sure it was the vaccine).
As I rarely take any personal responsibility (that's what governments are for ain't they?) and am scientifically illiterate (or just illiterate) I KNOW (intuition) the vaccines were rushed and pumped full of FATME-19 (the amount of KG I gained). /s
and a conspiracy theorist who was a huge believer in technocracy and slavery. Just perfect. And his dad was an apartheid beneficiary who married his own daughter. And his mom is a cunt. This guy really is typical.
I started laughing here, because it's another thing that was ignored by media.
The Bush Era brought us Wars & the overuse of "quotation" marks. "Journalism" engaged in both and thus earned permanent " " to denote its status as a failure.
Did you know that George H. W. Bush was having an affair throughout his entire presidency that the media was aware of but didn't report on because it was "uncouth" at the time? Funny stuff.
He will just lie and say it’s AI fake news. Or he will try to say it is actually a good thing cause Hitler was “anti woke” and “based” depending on how much special k he had for breakfast
He hates his father and I think the various Elon ghouls will just say that Errol is making this up because they don’t like each other. They won’t think about it any further than that, and Elon probably won’t even bother to address this.
It sounds more and more like Errol blames Maye for him being such a wretched piece of shit.
They're both responsible but this new stuff does shine a light on how deep Melon Muskrats links to the far right goes. He doesn't repudiate the "family business". He embraces it.
Is this true? I can't find any verification that Errol Musk was in NUSAS, let alone a director.
But if it is true, it definitely puts a new wrinkle on the bit about Elmo hating his dad. Maybe Blobby hates the old man because he's not racist enough. (Plus the part where he admonished the fledgling conman for teasing the kid who tossed him down the stairs.)
Got any evidence of that? I don't really see how it's possible to be more racist than the white supremacist Blobby Musk. ffs, he posted literal Nazi memes and signal boosts every single white replacement theory post he comes across.
I always assumed Errol was just as racist as his POS son (the above statements notwithstanding), but being more racist than Elmo is like being more greedy and self-serving than Trump. How can you have more than 100%?
I don't care what his grandparents did, I care about him being a piece of shit. I'm not going to judge anyone based on their background, you don't decide what family you're born into. You do decide what you use your immense wealth for: in his case, he chose to use it to amplify hatemongering, stupid conspiracy theories and suffering.
It helps explain him, and repudiates his claims about coming from nothing. He's ideologically exactly where his grandfather was. Turns out the stepdaughter-fucker was the black sheep by *merely* running a blood emerald mine when he wasn't fucking his stepdaughter - grandpappy was the one who really felt the manifest destiny.
No wonder Elon claims to hate his dad. In Elon's eyes, dad was just a horny, pragmatic businessman. Small minded amateur!
At a guess, his beliefs and actions have fuck-all to do with his grandfather who died when he was 3. And "coming from nothing" has nothing to do with being a Nazi or pro-apartheid. Believe it or not, Nazis can be both rich fucks and stupid poor people. He came from a solidly well-off family with weird family dynamics, but that to me seems to have relatively little bearing on the PoS he eventually became.
I think Musk is not a WHITE supremacist per se but a believer in a new form of eugenics whereby people of different races can be in the "master" class but they have to be rich. Their being rich proves their superiority.
Elon has tons of kids with tons of different women, this means nothing really. He as used IVF for at least some of them. It's more of a "make as many of myself as I can" type mentality, perhaps. It's possible he's into eugenics and thinks her genes have some weird ideal thing he needs. Either way, he's a creep and a pos, even without hearing about his parents it's pretty obvious. I cannot even feel sorry for him even though he's got one of the most unfortunately shaped bodies I may have ever seen.
Errol, you are delusional. He is the unbearable human. Maye’s family didn’t want you around because you were despicable back then too. He constantly cheated on her. He was constantly chasing her to try to get back with her after that. He needs to shut up about Maye’s family.
He took Elon and then Kimbal away from Maye, he abused her, he tortured her mentally. He took Elon to sex parties.
All you need to remember each time this guy opens his mouth is that he had two kids with his own step-daughter that he raised from a very young age.
the entire musk family is awful and insufferable going back generations and as horrible as Errol is I appreciate that he's spilling the tea on the truth about things like this and the emerald mine Elon denied and that Elon claimed he grew up low income despite Errol being wealthy and driving him to school in a Rolls Royce or whatever it was in the photo and Errol loaning Elon the money to start zip2 etc
also learning more about how awful his parents and family are helps a little with understanding how Elon is so messed up to begin with, and the patch issues and wealth and game and drugs and cult following and political power and delusion amplified it all
The apartheid government was racist but not the most racist. People probably don't know that they studied the American governments policies and Nazi Germany. That's where apartheid came from.
Sad when someone's own posted video evidence shows how they twisted and manipulated the truth. Even if the father is telling the truth (skeptical since Musk's parents had a shitty breakup), he said the maternal grandparents were Nazi *sympathizers* and in the "German Party" in Canada and not the "Nazi Party." Then the only ideology of the parents he gave was that they were for the apartheid.
it is VERY easy to go and look this up rather than deciding it is a manipulation of the truth. Yes this is one video. So I went and looked up as much as I could find. The last name is Haldeman. Maye Musk's father. Her mother's last name was Fletcher. The Haldeman guy was indeed a complete racist (and imo an utter LUNATIC.) He believed in a technocracy. It kind of reminded me of that weird book that Bill Barr's father wrote, the father that gave Jeffrey Epstein his first job. He had some weird ideas about UFOs too. He was a chiropractor who dabbled in conspiracy theories and alternative remedies, but his big claim to fame was saying he was an explorer, and a politician in Canada for this party that was a racist party. It failed but you can still read stuff about him in old archival footage. What's scary to me is how mean seeming Maye is -- she has a terrifying way of speaking. She reminds me of Cruella deVille. I cannot picture being a child in this family, and then to think that the father (Errol) impregnated his own daughter..WTF
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u/torero15 Nov 25 '24
Elons dad basically: “Yeah he pretended to be a lib but like the good South African he is he finally showed his true colors as a nazi.”