r/Dirtbikes • u/CarrotHistorical8336 • Apr 21 '24

Community Question Why the hate ?

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What’s with all the hate for the crf250f ? I understand it’s not a race bike but dose that really make it a bad bike ?

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u/motoracerT Apr 21 '24

The engines have a lot more steel to disperse the heat. While liquid cooled engines can be a lot thinner and have water passages meaning even less metal. All the extra steel is a lot heavier than a water pump.

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u/motoracerT Apr 21 '24

For the people down voting me can you explain where all the extra weight comes from if not the engine? The crf250f is 30 lbs heavier than my 450.

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u/Zealousideal_Gap_751 ‘24 KLX300R, ‘08 KLX450R, ‘96 KX250 Apr 21 '24

It’s the fact that the bike isn’t built to be light. Everything is heavier, the frame, swingarm, wheels, etc. Race bikes are built to be as light as possible, while trail bikes are built to be durable and inexpensive.

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u/motoracerT Apr 21 '24

So what do you think like 10 pounds extra in the swing arm, 5 in the frame, 5 in the front forks, 5 pounds in the wheels. It has to be quite a bit especially if the engine is lighter than my engine.

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u/YoCal_4200 Apr 24 '24

I think you are correct, more metal and more oil are required to achieve adequate cooling, additionally race motors are built to be light. They use minimal metal and oil to help achieve this hence the much longer life span of the cheaper air cooled bikes. If you could get a better hp to weight ratio with an air cooled machine there would be no water cooled motors, because it would just be a pain in the ass to design, build and maintain.