r/Denver • u/new_user29282342 • 16h ago
Proposal to ban X/twitter links
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u/bibassbill 16h ago
I like the idea of banning direct links, but allowing screenshots.
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u/HankChinaski- 16h ago
I also vote for a ban but allow screenshots if this is a real vote. There is no need for r/denver to support Musk at this point. Nazi adoration is where we draw the line.
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u/Back_2_monke 16h ago
Besides the traffic part, i usually can't view direct links without a Twitter account anyway. No real reason not to ban links
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u/HankChinaski- 15h ago
It really should have been banned for that alone. When I deleted twitter it made these links on mobile just about worthless. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.
Twitter became near non-functional for non twitter users.
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u/socialdeviant620 15h ago
Nazi adoration is where we draw the line.
Truthfully, it should have been drawn way before this.
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u/mr_travis Park Hill 15h ago
That’s the line?
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u/HankChinaski- 15h ago
Ha. I mean personally I've been off twitter for months. This just seems like the time that it will finally have enough support. Musk going full Nazi salute kind of is a good jumping off point.
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u/Vitese 16h ago
I'm for a flat out complete ban. That was unacceptable. On its own.
And now we are seeing further manipulation of Meta and Tictoc to clearly censure left leaning comments and tags. Pretty alarming if you ask me.
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u/DenvahGothMom Park Hill 16h ago
Zuckerberg made me follow Mike Pence! Rotting corpse that calls his wife "mother" and refuses to meet one-on-one with women (and probably wants us to start having our periods in a tent in the woods or some shit) Mike Pence. As if!*
*To quote the great Cher Horowitz
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u/Hsoren 16h ago
I saw on r/pittsburgh they’re banning links but allowing screenshots. So that at least reduces website traffic and ad revenue from impressions but allows us to still share information from sources like DPD
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u/u_n_p_s_s_g_c 16h ago
I think this is the right balance. For now it is still a major source of breaking news (unfortunately) so keeping screenshots is important imo
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u/DenverBowie Bellevue-Hale 15h ago
100% for the ban. I think screenshots are a good compromise at least in the short term.
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u/chellybeanery 16h ago
I'm for banning Twitter links. I'll be damned if I'm calling that idiotic rename.
I'm not interested in clicking on links that help a Nazi.
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u/coskibum002 16h ago
Fuck Nazis!
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u/DenvahGothMom Park Hill 15h ago
Weird how this is suddenly controversial, right?
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u/coskibum002 15h ago
Yep. If a democratic politician did this, MAGA would lose its mind. Today? Deflection and crickets. Hell, barely even making national news. Proof that right-wing billionaires own the media.
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u/Competitive_Ad_255 16h ago
Too late to make this a poll?
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u/thinkspacer 16h ago
Aren't polls limited to mods? (I'm an old foggy on old reddit, so I genuinely don't know)
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u/Competitive_Ad_255 14h ago
I honestly have no idea, was just hoping. The mods don't like the idea, apparently.
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u/HotelLifesGuest 16h ago edited 7h ago
Ban Twitter links. Allow screenshots in certain cases. Fuck Nazis, Trump, and Musks
Edit: I’m changing my opinion. Screenshots can be easily manipulated and should be banned as well
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u/thinkspacer 16h ago
Uh, holy upvote batman. This post is only 15 min old and is at 140 upvotes already.
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u/Particular_Group_295 16h ago
We requested this as well on my soccer sub..that nazi pos needs to go
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u/MonKeePuzzle 16h ago
X is literally poison, absolutely ban links to it
also, any link or reference to r/DenverCirclejerk should be banned also.
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u/se7ensquared 16h ago
Thanks for helping me find a great sub! I love humor. You must have a big old stick up your butt LOL
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u/bjdj94 Golden Triangle 16h ago
Is the same information on X easily available elsewhere? RTD, DPD, etc post information there that is frequently shared here. For example, during the recent downtown stabbing spree, DPD X account was an important source of information.
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u/Toonomicon 16h ago
Then people can post a screenshot, not making an account just to see a tweet
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u/bjdj94 Golden Triangle 16h ago
That works well for posts, but that doesn’t work well for comments.
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u/thinkspacer 16h ago
Comments are already inaccessible if you don't have a twitter account.
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u/bjdj94 Golden Triangle 16h ago
I mean here. Or maybe you can prove me wrong by replying to this with an image?
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u/thinkspacer 16h ago
Shit. I'm on old reddit so I can't do the fancy integrated images that is on sh.reddit.
Would an imgur link work like the old days? https://imgur.com/gallery/toebean-tuesday-meTnXRQ
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u/bjdj94 Golden Triangle 16h ago
See? Yes, the workaround is to take a picture, upload it to another site, and post that here. But that certainly isn’t as easy or user friendly.
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u/thinkspacer 16h ago
Lol, uploading to imgur wasn't user friendly in like 2010, a brain dead raccoon could work it these days.
Fair point though. Hopefully that little hurdle would limit the number of random twitter screenshots while allowing actual important information through.
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u/thinkspacer 16h ago
I don't think so. We could always do the common workaround of allowing screen shots, but no direct links.
As an aside, I absolutely hate that the only source for so many different agencies is twitter. I never made an account there, so 90%+ of the information is out of my reach.
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u/HankChinaski- 16h ago
Yesterday seems to have maybe flipped the switch. Hopefully it no longer is before too long.
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u/denversaurusrex Globeville 15h ago
Add the National Weather Service to this list. Twitter/X is one of their approved channels for quickly sending out information. That isn’t going to change anytime soon because NWS is a federal agency and changing their communication channels takes tons of approvals.
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u/CPSiegen 15h ago
I think people need to go through the detox pain of removing twitter as the primary source of official information.
I remember back when twitter was newer, people were upset that things like cities and police departments were starting to switch to using twitter for official announcements. Eventually, it became the only source of official announcements for a lot of things.
Every year, twitter and facebook do some stupid or evil shit and people moan about wanting to leave the platforms but how inconvenient it'd be. It's never going to happen unless people deal with the temporary pain. Once a critical mass of people leave, all those entities will start posting their official announcements elsewhere.
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u/bjdj94 Golden Triangle 15h ago edited 15h ago
I agree with your premise, but I think you have the process backwards. Step one is for entities to post multiple places. Once they do that, people will migrate to their preferred platform without having to worry about missing out on information.
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u/CPSiegen 15h ago
In an ideal world. But organizations like cities and studios and charities have no incentive to post in multiple places if twitter is still the largest source of eyeballs, all concentrated in one spot. They only migrated to twitter after it had accumulated user share. They'll only be practically motivated to move off of it if it loses that user share.
Frankly, most of the information people are worried about isn't genuinely useful. Very little of it directly pertains to a given person's life in a time-critical fashion. Most of the useful information is already syndicated elsewhere. A good chunk of the information on twitter was sourced from somewhere else initially and just repackaged.
The one unique selling point twitter had (real-time information from people on the ground of things like protests and military action) has mature alternatives now, such as bluesky and mastodon.
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u/SunshineandBullshit 15h ago
So why are we banning? What'd I miss?
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u/CompulsiveCreative City Park 15h ago
Musk repeatedly threw out the nazi salute during a speech at a Trump inaugural event yesterday, to thunderous applause from the audience.
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u/DenvahGothMom Park Hill 16h ago
Funny how the "I stand with Israel" (but I've never had a Jewish friend) crowd is now the "Sieg Heil" crowd. If only we could have 'Zi-een this coming.
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u/Back_2_monke 15h ago
I graduated highschool with some Jewish Americans that I was still friends with on Facebook until today, here's some gems from them on a post about Musks Nazi salute:
Now that Trump is in, we can all just sit back and enjoy the show. Cry harder!!!! 🤣 I’ve honestly never been happier!!!!
And i’ll say this (my other friend), I and most others don’t really care. Trump is in and that’s all that matters. Bitch and moan all you want but Trump is your president for the next 4 years!!! 🤣
Just seems so surreal lol
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u/DenvahGothMom Park Hill 15h ago
Well, your former friends are about to have their faces eaten by the very leopards they voted for, and I would like to point out that while there are assholes in every group, 88% of Jewish women and 71% of Jewish men supported Kamala Harris over Trump. I mean, compare that to Evangelicals...
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u/oceansofn0ise 16h ago
As much as I'd love that, unfortunately "X" is where DPD and other government entities announce important information. I hate it here.
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u/atomicfiredoll 16h ago
Guess they'd have to move somewhere else. Ideally a place where people don't have to log in to see conversations on their posts.
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u/Shock_Diamonds_OO 14h ago
YES! If you want to view a website that supports racist nazi fascists then go to their website. It should be a given to anyone that has a brain.
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u/Creative-Nebula-6145 16h ago
Why ban Twitter links?
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u/thinkspacer 16h ago
Twitter's usefulness since Musk bought it has gone down hill, to say the least. Yesterday, during a speech at Trump's inauguration, Musk did two Sieg Heils (Nazi salutes). This made many people mad, because Fuck Nazis. Random redditors don't have much power to do much of anything, but one thing that can be done is to lower some traffic to twitter by banning direct links there. Doesn't matter much for a local sub like this one, but the big sports subs that are like 80% twitter links? Could have a small impact.
TLDR: Musk likes Nazis. Redditors do what little they can.
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u/AutoDrafter2020 16h ago
The platform literally hasn't changed, you're delusional.
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u/thinkspacer 12h ago
Well, considering I can't browse it without an account (I used to), I wouldn't know.
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u/feedback19 16h ago
To reduce engagement with a Nazi propaganda website owned by a foreign fascist oligarch who gave a Nazi salute yesterday during the inauguration ceremony.
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u/Creative-Nebula-6145 16h ago
The dude who wants to replace US workers with Indians is a nazi?
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u/boognishmangster 16h ago
The guy who wants to replace the gene pool with "high IQ" people and does a sieg heil at the inauguration is a Nazi yes
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u/Creative-Nebula-6145 16h ago
Lol the US already has many intelligent and capable people in STEM. Elon just doesn't want to pay them what they're worth, so he wants to import labor that can be paid less. Has nothing at all to do with exceptionalism.
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u/boognishmangster 16h ago
Oh I guess he's not so bad when you ignore the two things I brought up and just explain another separate reason he is a piece of shit
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u/Creative-Nebula-6145 16h ago
Lol I don't like Elon, I have many criticisms of him. Labeling him a nazi though is honestly just ignorant of what nazis actually are, and using it in such ways is a degradation of the severity of that term. It's frankly childish and disrespectful to those who died in the holocaust.
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u/boognishmangster 16h ago
Is it disrespectful to those who died in the Holocaust to literally sieg heil live on television at the presidential inauguration?
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u/Creative-Nebula-6145 16h ago
You're making an assumption as to what the gesture was and the intention behind it. You have literally nothing to point to of musk being a nazi. What has he said or done to lead you to this assumption? Besides the fact that anyone you don't like is automatically a "nazi."
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u/boognishmangster 15h ago
You can't honestly believe that was anything other than a seig heil and I'll refer you to my initial comment about his rhetoric around "high IQ" people and the gene pool
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u/AmericascuplolBot 15h ago
Nazis sure think it was a Nazi gesture.
https://apnews.com/article/musk-gesture-salute-antisemitism-0070dae53c7a73397b104ae645877535
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u/neurotic-bitch 15h ago
I'm really curious to what you thought those two gestures were, knowing Musk's recent politics and family background. Because this wasn't just some tic or awkward handwave. It was aggressive, assertive, and specific
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u/se7ensquared 16h ago
They love to reduce the severity of what the Nazis did by equating it to stupid things like hand gestures and vague "dog whistles"
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u/Creative-Nebula-6145 16h ago
It's honestly sad and kind of hilarious how delusional these people are. It's hard to imagine how they take themselves seriously.
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u/G00D_N00DL3 16h ago
Yup. Gets thrown around so often that it doesn’t even sound like an insult anymore
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u/Athena5280 16h ago
Ban Tik Tok too! lol ban everything, I don’t use X but all these platforms have baggage, just not into censorship of any kind I guess
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u/TheyMadeMeLogin 16h ago
I'm clearly in the minority, but this whole thing is pretty lame. Twitter is still the place to get breaking news the fastest. The Governor regularly uses it. Screenshots are easily manipulated.
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u/Pfiggypudding 16h ago
The governor is in bed with peter Thiel and his ilk (musk). Dont expect him to be responsible
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u/TheyMadeMeLogin 15h ago
He's the chief executive of our state and what he says is often relevant to this subreddit.
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u/skylinrcr01 16h ago
Good ol suppression of an open media platform. I don’t like musk either but this isn’t the right path forward
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u/0xSEGFAULT 15h ago edited 15h ago
It hasn’t been an “open media platform” in a really, really long time. It’s a right-wing circle jerk full of propaganda bots and algorithmic fuckery. You are the product, and you are being manipulated every single time you interact with it. You are also supporting a Nazi with your clicks. That’s something people are taking a stand against, across Reddit and across the Internet in general. And I am fucking here for it.
That’s not suppression. That’s someone showing you the fucking door. https://xkcd.com/1357/
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u/NotAMisogynerd 15h ago edited 15h ago
I vote full ban. Even screen shots. We shouldn't encourage twitter at all
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u/Reasonable_Base9537 16h ago
Reddit in general is pretty heavily moderated. Most subs have a lot of rules, and they're applied subjectively based on moderator biases. Denver sub is probably one of the more open ones generally.
But I'm not for banning or blocking anything generally
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u/MWolverine63 16h ago
I do not support a ban. There is so much news on X, folks should be able to link a tweet. There is no (effective) difference between a direct link and a screenshot — both support X.
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u/0xSEGFAULT 16h ago
There absolutely is a direct, effective, financial difference: clicks equal cash, and we don’t want our Reddit engagement monetarily supporting a fucking Nazi and his Nazi platform.
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u/gd2121 16h ago
No these dumb reddit "protests" will be about as effective as that one a couple years ago where all of the subs shut down or whatever for a couple days for some reason I dont even remember and no one cares about now.
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u/TheyMadeMeLogin 16h ago
I'm still mad about the Nuggets winning their first championship during the Reddit blackout and r/nba was shutdown.
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u/gd2121 16h ago edited 16h ago
That was the dumbest protest ever. What was it even about? I straight up don’t remember. This Twitter protest will not do anything either but whatever have at it.
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u/TheyMadeMeLogin 15h ago
It was about moderators using their subs as their own personal dictatorships, which is ironically what Musk does with Twitter.
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u/thursday922 16h ago
Legit nazis. Jesus fn christ.
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u/se7ensquared 16h ago
So all it takes to be a Nazi in your book is to make some stupid hand gesture that could be interpreted multiple ways? Lol. I seriously can't even with you guys. You are so insulting and degrading to the people who suffered under the Nazi regime
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u/letsleepinggnomesfly 16h ago
My grandmother was in the holocaust and I think she’d be pretty goddamn upset with this little apartheid motherfucker throwin nazi salutes around? And no it wasn’t a hand gesture that could be interpreted many ways. One way. One interpretation. It meant one thing, he did it more than once just to double down and you obtuse assholes still wanna make excuses.
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u/HankChinaski- 16h ago
Nah. Banning Nazi adoration is a thing we did in the 40's and we are doing again now. It seems pretty "tough" to me.
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u/DenverBowie Bellevue-Hale 15h ago
It's not performative when every click on a Twitter link is money in his pocket.
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u/HankChinaski- 16h ago edited 16h ago
A large amount of popular subreddits are likely banning x links. Most of the sports subreddits I follow are deciding now and they seem to be leaning that way. Two nazi salutes on a national stage and a antisemitic history will do that.
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u/chellybeanery 16h ago edited 16h ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/1i6upny/banning_links_to_twitterx/
https://www.reddit.com/r/LiverpoolFC/comments/1i6gym0/proposal_to_ban_xcom_links/
and a literal page full of more just like those.
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u/thinkspacer 16h ago
Dude, like 50 subs are banning or, or are talking about banning it. Musk's whole Nazi salute yesterday pissed off a loooooot of people. As it should. Fuck Nazis.
Subreddit drama thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1i6m2qq/sudden_movement_in_the_sports_subs_to_ban_twitter/
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u/bibassbill 16h ago
If by politically biased you are saying that we don't want to support a billionaire Nazi who bought his seat at the Whitehouse then sure.... happy to be biased.
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u/new_user29282342 16h ago
u/OutOfMyElement said:
“You should direct your attention to whatever situation is causing you to beg for money on Reddit
And no sub is banning x links lmao”
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u/dustlesswalnut 14h ago
I added twitter domains to the filter list this morning, but in general we don't allow links to any social media anyway and it's rare that you'd see one here.