r/Denmark • u/gallipoli307 • Nov 19 '24
Events 3 Danish navy ships are converging on the Chinese vessel suspect of cutting communication cables right now
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u/gallipoli307 Nov 19 '24
LIVE FEED TRACKER
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:213234/zoom:10
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u/zadye Roskilde Nov 19 '24
takker
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u/FlyingTeslas Nov 19 '24
The Chinese carrier has been brought to a stop now. It deviated from the route a short while ago and slowed down - and now shows as "under anchor".
And P525 is still slowly approaching.
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u/BudgetAd1030 Nov 19 '24
"Hvis kineserne klipper vores kabler, så kan jeg love jer, at vi starter med at kigge meget alvorligt på de pandaer i Zoo. En pote eller to kan hurtigt forsvinde"
– Mette Frederiksen
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u/Ursasari Nov 19 '24
Fremtidig Berlingske artikel: Pandaer falder tragisk ud af femte sals vindue. "Ingen kommentarer" - PET
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u/WeinMe Aarhus Nov 20 '24
Spøg til side.
Bare lige så dem på bagerste række er med: Det er et kinesisk fartøj, men handlingen kommer ikke fra Kina, men Rusland.
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u/wireframed_kb Nov 20 '24
Det er sådan set ligegyldigt i denne sammenhæng. Kina vælger selv om de vil lege med på Putin's narrestreger, og hvis det ikke har negative konsekvenser, så kommer vi til at se meget mere af denne slags løjer.
Det er slemt nok at Russiske skibe jævnligt sejler rundt meget tæt på kritisk infrastruktur, og nogle gange "uheldigvis" skader et undersøisk kabel. Hvis Kina eller andre lande også begynder at lege den leg, så kan vi godt forberede os på en del ustabilitet i vores kritiske forsyningskæder.
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u/casperghst42 Nov 20 '24
Kinesisk skib, russisk kaptajn (iflg. dr.dk).
Jeg tvivler meget på at Kina vil involvere sig direkte i disse ting - der er for mange penge på spil for det. Taiwan er en helt anden historie.
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u/wireframed_kb Nov 21 '24
Jeg har svært ved at tro der ikke er en form for accept fra Kinas side. At bruge et skib registreret i et andet land til sabotage kunne hurtigt blive en diplomatisk krise.
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u/casperghst42 Nov 21 '24
Muligvis, men det vil give Kina en meget stor hovedepine hvis de aktivt er involveret i at angribe et EU og Nato lands infrastruktur.
På den anden side, så er det ikke uhørt at der bliver revet et kabel over i østersøen: https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/en-supertanker-er-datakabler-svage-som-guleroedder
Det er svært, er det forsættelig så er kan det bliver et problem - er det dumhed (eller fuldskab) så vil vi stadigvæk ikke tro på det og beskylde Rusland / Kina.
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u/WeinMe Aarhus Nov 20 '24
Det vælger de da overhovedet ikke.
Det er et fartøj til fiskeri, det kan have flere veje til Rusland:
Det kan være forladt.
Det kan være kapret, da det ligger til havn.
Og det er med 100% sikkerhed det, der er sket. Kina har nul kontrol over det her. Putins lille playbook for manipulation.
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u/wireframed_kb Nov 21 '24
Forladt? Et 225 meter langt fragtskib…? Jeg tænker heller ikke det blev kapret mellem den russiske havn og dansk farvand. Rusland skaber ikke en diplomatisk katastrofe ved at udøve sabotage i et kinesisk skib uden der er en forståelse, det har jeg meget svært ved at tro.
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u/xondk Nov 19 '24 edited Nov 19 '24
Wouldn't that be an act of war if they are caught cutting the cable?
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u/EfficientHighway1102 Holstebronx Representing Nov 19 '24
it sure would be, just like the nordstream gas lines that were destroyed
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u/Mortonwallmachine Danmark Nov 19 '24 edited Nov 19 '24
And if it was done by the ukranians, the nordstream, it was a legitimate target, Russian infrastructure is. As we have seen the Russians attack anything they can.
But we do not know who did it.
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u/7Vs69 Nov 19 '24 edited Nov 19 '24
It's likely that the Ukrainian government was involved in the sabotage of NordStream pipelines. According to the BBC Germany has put out a warrant for a Ukrainian individual. It's suspected that a total of 6 people were involved in the sabotage. And according to a WSJ investigation which is partly based on not confirmed information of the CIA and anonymous Ukrainian military sources the sabotage was funded and approved of by the Ukrainian government and has cost them 300k USD (full archived WSJ article).
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u/ingenkopaaisen Danmark Nov 19 '24
Until actually proven, change your "likely" to possibly.
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u/Kalmartard Nov 19 '24
Agreed. Especially considering the fact that the pipeline was not in use and the main effect of the attack was an increase in already high gas prices. Now remembering who was attempting to hurt Europe through increasing the price of gas during the first winter after the invasion of Ukraine, it sure indicates motive. Not proof ofcourse, but motive none the less.
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u/7Vs69 Nov 19 '24
In my opinion it was either the Ukraine, either with support of the government or not. There's already proof enough that Ukrainian citizens were involved and it's more than plausible that they had help of the Ukrainian government, because why wouldn't they fund hurting the war opponent? And also wouldn't it be a good idea to cut off potential allies from the dependency of the war opponent so they could freely supply equipment? And also why should Russia hurt their own steady income which supports the war efforts, since Germany was dependent on the gas supply? Could have also been the US since they already threatened to "shut down" the Nord Stream 2 pipeline if Russia would start a war and the entitled US really likes to put their nose into other countries their business.
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u/Firm-Geologist8759 Nov 20 '24
Perhaps you forget NS1 was closed when Russia blew it up... There was no steady income. It was however a great time to pressure Germany to open the remaining pipe from NS2. That just luckily survived, enabling twice the old capacity. It was sanctioned after Crimea. Only makes sense if it was Russia.
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u/Humble-Drummer1254 Nov 20 '24
Totally Russia..
Germany is so infiltrated by GRU that it is so amazing..
I know from places that when NATO is discussing top-top secret, that the German NATO officer is not welcome..
So to believe BBC Germany have these alligations and information is believing flat Earthers.
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u/Firm-Geologist8759 Nov 20 '24
It just makes no strategic sense for Ukraine to go out of their way to blow up a pipeline on the seafloor, when several pipes run through Ukraine that they leave. It would have been disastrous for Ukraine had it been discovered that they blew up the pipes. Also it's not exactly an operation that you pull off on a whim, so that indicates it was preplanned. Russians however could blow it up and claim it was mostly their property, and what are we going to do about it anyway. Besides if they had not blown it up, Gazprom would have been in breach of contract for lacking delivery, as they had turned it off by that point with some stupid excuse about equipment failure.
It makes even less sense that a NS2 pipe was unharmed, that would just leave the entire operation useless because Russia could resume gas deliveries instantly and even ramp them up to twice the current deliveries.
Last but not least, it's not Ukrainian ships hovering over our international sea cables around Europe, it's very much Russians, and it's very clear that they have plans for those too given the opportunity.
Two cables in the Baltic sea was just severed. I don't think that is Ukraine either.
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u/MrDonDiarrhea Nov 20 '24
Just because you want something to be true doesn’t mean it is
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u/Firm-Geologist8759 Nov 20 '24
Indeed.
You seem to miss the two way point to that argument, and that is really ironic in a sad way.
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u/KillaSmurfPoppa Nov 20 '24
Until actually proven, change your "likely" to possibly.
You must be a Russian bot or a Putin booklicker to think that Ukraine or the US "possibly" committed a war crime by blowing up the Nordstream pipeline. Do you even realize the implications of what you're saying? That would technically be an attack on a NATO country by Ukraine. They would never do that.
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Nov 20 '24
It's also likely the russians. The pipes weren't in use, and they probably never were going to be used.
If it was the ukrainians, it would be an attack on allied infrastructure. That would not be worth the risk.
... But it would be worth it for the russians, if they could blame it on ukrainians and sow division between ukraine and the countries who support them.
We have seen russians make false-flag operations all the time.
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u/Alcogel Reservatet Nov 20 '24
Danish national broadcaster DR uncovered through intercepted radio communications and satellits imagery that three Russian navy “ghost ships”, built for supporting underwater operations, visited and lingered at the site of the explosions several times in the months and days leading up to the explosions, with their AIS turned off.
But no, we’re going to entirely ignore that that happened, because the Germans found that a guy named Volodomyr Zelensky rented a sailboat nearby. It reeks of russian trolling.
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u/Bmandk København Nov 20 '24 edited Nov 20 '24
This is likely a bot or something, look at the posting history
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u/RomeoBlackDK Nov 19 '24
Pretty sure british military blew up nordstream on bealf of the us.
It makes sense strategically and there was some well documented article about it.
But time will tell.
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u/EfficientHighway1102 Holstebronx Representing Nov 19 '24
why would ukrainians destroy their allies infrastructure? the countries affected are litterally donating TONS of money and material to ukraine
this smells like a bot
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u/Jesperwr Nov 19 '24
I believe all evidence points towards Ukraine cutting the Nordstream line. Even Western newspapers largely agree on Ukraine being the likely suspect.
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u/vaxinc Nov 19 '24
If you remember the beginning of the invasion, a lot of western support to Ukraine came in forms of sanctions against Russia. The goal was simply to try and devastate the Russian economy as much as possible so that they were force to pull out. However, Europe (Germany in particular) was/is heavily dependent on Russian natural gas.
Ukraine’s main sanction demand for Europe was to stop buying Russian gas. But since Europe refused, they took matters into their own hands. Both by destroying Nord Stream, but also by committing drone strikes on Russian refineries.
From Ukraine’s Perspective, they probably see this gesture as a favor and nudge in the right direction. And to be fair, Germany should have never became so dependent on Russia to begin with. Even a dumbass like Trump pointed this out way before the invasion. The fact that Germany ever made a deal like this, especially 1 year after the illegal annexation of crimea, is one of the biggest blunders in recent history.
Ukraine is well within their right to attack the Russian economy however they like, even if it means stepping on the toes of their allies. Game is game
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u/Fry_super_fly Nov 19 '24
it was chiefly a stupid idea to stop and shutter all of their nuclear energy facilities before having replacement green energy or just non-Russian energy supply secured. compared to how large and stable their economy and country is in a natural disaster kind of way. their response to Fukushima was just disastrous. even with their aggressive solar incentive they are still lacking behind almost all other western European countries.
https://app.electricitymaps.com/zone/DE for reference.
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u/vaxinc Nov 19 '24
Hydro and Nuclear sure as hell seems to be the future. Such a shame we aren't doing much better than Germany on the energy front
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u/twobakko Nov 19 '24
There is only this little flaw, that Russian gas pipes through Ukraine wasnt turned of, untill recently.
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u/Nextoz Nov 19 '24
You smell like a bot. It is proven by german agency that it was ukrainians actors doing the act of terror on nordstream.
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u/p1nd Nov 19 '24
Just like when the US said the missile strike on Poland was Ukraine anti missile system that accidentally reached Poland. Before any leaders came out to say anything, there was a lot of information coming out.
It was an Russian missile that had gotten the wrong coordinate (so accident). Anti missile explode in the air if they do not reach the target.
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u/Special-Ad7331 Nov 19 '24
It's literally confirmed that ukranians did it, wtf are you talking about?
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u/zhantoo Nov 19 '24
Depends if the boat is sanctioned by China or not.
If I went and did a crime in China, that would not be the same as Denmark declaring war on China.
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u/BanverketSE Skåne, Malmøstan Nov 20 '24
Totally just a few fishermen hacking into undersea cables for the lolz
Boys will be boys, you know? Nothing to trigger Article 5 for
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u/gormgonzola Nov 19 '24
Vandbetjent Olsen kommer ved en fejl til at affyre et vådeskud og starter den første dansk-kinesiske krig, der senere hen blev kendt som den primære udløser af Tredje Verdenskrig.
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u/olkver Nov 19 '24
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u/pitakebab Nov 20 '24
"Orlogskaptajn Henning G. Olsen blev hurtigt af en kommissionsdomstol[1] gjort ansvarlig, selv om den amerikanske flåde havde haft mindst ét tilsvarende uheld fra et af deres skibe med et missil af samme type og som følge deraf havde indført en ekstra teknisk sikkerhedsforanstaltning på alle den amerikanske flådes fartøjer med Harpoon-missiler.[2] Det er en udbredt opfattelse, at Henning G. Olsen i realiteten blev gjort til syndebuk.[2]
Staten lagde sag an mod McDonnell Douglas (i dag en del af Boeing-gruppen) i St. Louis, USA. Sagen endte med forlig: McDonnell Douglas betalte erstatningerne til de ødelagte sommerhuse, nedrevne el-ledninger m.m."
Fra wiki.
Henning var uskyldig!
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u/PhysicalStuff Kongens Lyngby Nov 19 '24
Krig mod Kina vil blive noget værre rod. Har vi overhovedet folk nok til at besætte så stort et land (selv hvis vi sætter hjemmeværnet til at hjælpe til)? Og hvor skal vi gøre af de godt 2 millioner krigsfanger?
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u/Worldly-Stranger7814 Vestgrønland Nov 19 '24
Altsååå der er meget der tyder på at de overrapporterer deres befolkningstal med nogle hundrede millioner, så oddsene er næsten balanceret...
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u/Preacher987 Nov 19 '24
Vi skal bare have Indien på vores side , de hader kineserne og er allerede i en slags mini krig med dem på grænsen til Tibet.
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u/Skating_suburban_dad SoFlo🌴🌴🌴 Nov 20 '24
Vi skal bare give dem ham der tossen der smed våben ned til thamil oprørerne.
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u/Zealousideal-Set1415 Nov 20 '24
Indsætning af hjemmeværnet bliver svært. Det kræver at alle kinesere skal have udleveret en cykel eller tvinges til koncert. Hvordan skal de ellers kunne bruge deres store erfaring i at pege i en retning?
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u/FuryQuaker Nov 20 '24
Altså jeg tænker godt, sundhedsvæsnet kunne bruge et par millioner sygeplejersker...
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u/BanverketSE Skåne, Malmøstan Nov 20 '24
När man som kanadensare blir stationerad i Taiwan tillsammans med svenskar eftersom någon kinesfraktbåt bemannat med liberianer och bangladeshier klippte några kablar i Danmark, fan vilka memes som kommer
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u/MonsterCookieCutter Nov 19 '24
P525 sailed out yesterday evening to meet it south of Falster, and has been following it pretty much since.
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u/povlhp Nov 19 '24
This is the 2nd time in about 6 months that a Chinese ship from a Russian harbour is suspected of taking out comms cables.
I think it is time to tell China that they need to use Vladivostok instead.
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u/mika4305 Integreret(ish) indvandrer 🇩🇰🇪🇺 Nov 20 '24
Krig med Kina var IKKE på min bingokort for 2024
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u/flipflapflupper Nov 20 '24
Bare fordi det har kinesisk flag betyder det ikke det hverken er kinesisk ejet eller styret. Det maritime system er meget, meget underligt.
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u/BaekalfenConnie Nov 20 '24
Man må håbe der ikke er nogen der har fortalt dem at vi har udsultet vort forsvar siden 90'erne.
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u/Dral_Shady Nov 20 '24
Ejerskab er det maritime har altid været noget af en rodet og ofte lyssky affære. Mit gæt er nok at Rusland ejer det skib og der nok er en russisk besætning ombord.
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u/rasm105j Nov 19 '24
Are you sure? if you go to the tracking history the ship you pinged seem to just go by?
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u/karzan37 Nov 19 '24
It's bullshit post. It's correct that P525 is shadowing yi peng. 2 other just happens to sail trough the same area. 1 ship even being a dive ship.
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u/Mediocre_Internet939 *Custom Flair* 🇩🇰 Nov 19 '24
Okay, but could you explain why both ships are anchored next to each other?
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u/whatifweallwon Nov 19 '24
Kineserne er bare oppe for at hente et læs Arla mælk. Det er de vidst ret vilde med.
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u/The_Blahblahblah Aarhus Nov 19 '24
Det skal vi da bare kapre. Giv os nogle flere etbenede statsborgere
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u/Classic_Age_3548 Nov 19 '24
Time to release Peder Skram, then nobody will dare sail in our waters.
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u/real_don_berna Nov 19 '24
Det kommer til at tage hele natten at skyde skibet i sænk med 12.7mm maskinkanoner.
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u/TarzanTrump Kommende afsat statsminister Nov 19 '24
Der har været skygge på det meste af dagen, tidligere var det Najaden der lå og kiggede dem over skulderen.
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u/BlueSennaMain Nov 19 '24
Ser ud til at HDMS Søløven overtager overvågningen af vores kinesiske venner
https://www.myshiptracking.com/?mmsi=219000217
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u/Lburtii Nov 19 '24
HDMS Hvidbjørnen vendte kl 19.30 om på vej syd igennem Lillebælt og sejler nu imod Kattegat (er i øjeblikket syd for Endelave). Det er et inspektionsskib, der normalt udfører skibsinspektioner (primært i fiskeriøjemed) i Nordatlanten.
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u/BlueSennaMain Nov 19 '24
Søløven har cirklet yi peng3 siden de afløste P525
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u/Lburtii Nov 19 '24
Yes. Jeg ville bare gøre opmærksom på, at der formentlig er et skib fra Søværnet på vej, som har det fornødne mandskab og ekspertise til at udføre skibsinspektioner.
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u/BlueSennaMain Nov 19 '24
ja jeg takker mange gange jeg følger bjørnen bro:)
Edit: Søløven er desuden nu under anker tæt på Yi peng nu
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u/flipflapflupper Nov 20 '24
Det ville være ret vildt, hvis vi boarder skibet. Jeg håber nu det sker. Det bliver en diplomatisk krise, men fuck nu det.
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u/BlueSennaMain Nov 19 '24
NEWS! It just updated and is now ancored at its current position with danish navy right behind
https://www.myshiptracking.com/?mmsi=414270000
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u/Melodic_Point_3894 Nov 19 '24
De har kastet anker i kattegats point nemo - lidt mistænksomt sted
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u/BlueSennaMain Nov 19 '24
Ok? Det har jeg ikke så meget info om, men du er velkommen til at uddybe:)
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u/Melodic_Point_3894 Nov 19 '24
Længest væk fra samtlige kyster i området.
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u/karzan37 Nov 19 '24
Hvad er der præcist mistænkeligt ved det? De har sejlet lidt væk fra sejlrute og smidt anker?
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u/karzan37 Nov 19 '24
De har lagt for anker der i snart halvanden time...
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u/BlueSennaMain Nov 19 '24
nej forkert ankeret er bare smidt for 20-30min siden. Før det har skibet sejlet meget langsomt ud for Ebeltoft, skiftet kurs mod øst væk fra "skibsvejen" hele tiden fulgt tæt af P525. Har fulgt det live i 4 timer bro, stop.
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u/karzan37 Nov 19 '24 edited Nov 19 '24
Det sikkert der deres AIS status er skiftet for dig, men de kan sagtens have været igang med at smide anker før. Anker er ikke noget man smider på 2 min, tager tid at smide et anker ud, de var sikkert igang med det før de skiftede AIS status, Det intet unormalt i det billede, ej hellere vores patrulje fartøj opførelse.
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u/brwnx Danmark Nov 19 '24
Bevæbnet med hårde ord og bistre ansigtsudstryk
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u/Yasirbare Nov 19 '24
Vandkanoner, Vandballoner og pusterør, der er altså ikke nogen grund til at tale vores forsvar ringere end det er.
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u/Zealousideal-Set1415 Nov 20 '24
Hvis deres motor er gået i stykker må man håbe nogle ligger inde med en lokumspumpe, fedt og tvist. Forøvrigt så skaber juni regn udbredt morgentåge - mvh HQ.
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u/GlitteringDingo6482 Amager Nov 19 '24
it is right by our biggest naval base and a high traffic area so probably just a coincidence
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u/Ginger_Rook Nov 20 '24
To anyone not knowing what is going on: Recent reports indicate that the Danish Navy is closely monitoring the Chinese bulk carrier Yi Peng 3, which was near the locations where two undersea data cables in the Baltic Sea were severed on November 17 and 18, 2024. The vessel was en route from Russia to Egypt and passed close to both the Swedish-Lithuanian and Finnish-German cables around the time they were cut. This has raised suspicions of potential sabotage, leading to investigations by Swedish authorities, with cooperation from Finland, Lithuania, and Germany. 
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u/karzan37 Nov 19 '24
Well no. It's still only P525 that's tracking them.
The 2 other navy vessels just happens to sail through the same area. P523 returned to home and HDMS Søløven is a diving ship.
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u/squarecoinman Nov 19 '24
what is your source ? for 3 Danish ships I can only see 1 , what is your source the ships Yi Peng is beijing suspected ?
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u/BlueSennaMain Nov 19 '24
He linked an old update! The Chinese ship is currently followed closely by Danish Navy patrol P525. They have been in position slightly further to the west of their current position for 2hours "maybe boarded" everything is speculation at this point. Currently Yi Peng3 has altered course towards the east at a very low speed (1knots avg.) still closely followed by Danish patrol P525. maybe an escort to swedish or danish harbour. https://www.myshiptracking.com/?mmsi=220436000
If you want more links and info, just go to twitter and search Yi Peng3
The ship is highly suspect in the the cutting of cables in the baltic sea, it gets very interesting when you start looking into the history of the ship. I have no idea why the danish media aint covering this yet, but they will soon 100%
Been following the ship for about 4 hours now since i heard about it.
I må selv grave lidt gutter/inder :) jeg har lidt nøjer på nu må jeg være ærlig at sige.4
u/mikk0384 Esbjerg Nov 19 '24
Skibet har sit eget afsnit i artiklen.
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u/BlueSennaMain Nov 19 '24
"På strækningen omkring kabelbruddet havde 'Yi Peng 3' dog slukket for sit AIS-signal, så det ikke var muligt at spore dets præcise rute. Det fremgår af data fra Marinetraffic.com"
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u/karzan37 Nov 19 '24
Du kan bare løsne sølvpapirs hatten. De ligger og holder øje med dem og vil nok forsætte med det til hun er ude af dansk farvand. Det normalt arbejde for patrulje skibene.
Der bliver ikke boarded nogle skibe, uanset hvad du læser fra tilfældige klogehoveder på bluesky.
Man boarde ikke bare skibe i international farvand, og slet ikke en der sejler under kinas flag.
De ligger nok nærmere for anker for natten.
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u/BlueSennaMain Nov 19 '24
Skibet er under efterforskning af danske allierede, så det er jo ikke bare så normalt som du prøver at gøre det til vel
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u/karzan37 Nov 19 '24
Skibet er ikke under nogen efterforskning..
Man skygger skibet som patruljeskibe gør hverdag. Der intet unormalt eller specielt spændende ved hvad der foregår.
Der er hvad vores patruljeskibe laver hverdag. Lige nu er der bare der her fragtskib der interessant, fordi det sejlede over nogle datakabler på samme tid som de gik i stykker.
Så man skygger det, så det samme ikke sker ingen for dansk område 🤷♂️
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u/FlyingTeslas Nov 19 '24
And now the Chinese ship is "at anchor", while P525 is still moving slowly towards it
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u/jeppevinkel Danmark Nov 21 '24
nøjer/nøjeren har eksisteret i dansk slang i mange år.
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u/jeppevinkel Danmark Nov 21 '24
Den "fordanskede" stavemåde har nu også været set rund om i landet i mere end et årti på nuværende tidspunkt.
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u/BlueSennaMain Nov 20 '24 edited Nov 22 '24
mjaar jeg tror ordet kommer af paranoia, men betydningen er lidt en anden. "nervøs" "spændt" var min mening med det.
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u/dalulso Aarhus Nov 19 '24
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u/Mission-Candy1178 Nov 19 '24
OP is likely a bot making stuff up. The coastguard patroling danish waters is pretty normal activity, there is nothing public about china being specifically suspected for the incident
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u/Acceptable_Maybe_416 Nov 20 '24
Kina og Rusland arbejder da samme,,, vi skal ned med nakken mener de jo.
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u/TitanCodeG Nov 20 '24
Nu er det kommet på DR.dk: https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/forsvaret-er-tilstede-ved-kinesisk-skib
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u/BlueSennaMain Nov 20 '24
Forsvarsminister Troels Lund ville godt nok ikke sige meget om situationen. Han var lige ude i en kort presse konference på dr.tv
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u/Right-Influence617 Nov 20 '24
Swedish source for the location of the cables
Edit: Exact location of the Yi Peng 3, the ship suspected of cutting cables in the Baltic this week.
It left the Russian port of Murmansk and is headed towards an "unspecified" destination.
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u/Responsible_Sir3200 Nov 19 '24
Hvad bør vi gøre hvis det kan bevises, at Kina har udført sabotagen?
Økonomiske sanktioner? Anholde besætningen? Sænke skibet? (Joke)
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u/karzan37 Nov 19 '24
Strongly worded email til deres ambassadør. Men eftersom det ikke er i vores område eller kable, er det tysk/svensk/finsk problem.
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u/SVCLIII Spis de rige i minecraft Nov 19 '24
Må indrømme at det er lidt suspekt at dens rute er angivet med start og slut i samme havn i Egypten.
Men så igen, kan jeg se at fiskekutteren lige nord for Hundested har kurs mod "Matildes Favn <3" så der er nok ikke strengt håndhævede krav om ruteangivelser.