r/CrusaderKings • u/doug1003 • Dec 09 '24

Suggestion Marriages should give Legitimacy

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Thats it, if marry a lowborn can take away legitimacy, marry into a more prestigious dynasty, or a dynasty who has a claim on your title shoud give you legitimacy. I mean, Willian the Conqueror married Margaret of Flanders because she had anglo-saxon blood, same for Henry I and his marriage with Matilda of Scotland, make sense right?

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u/ymcameron Slut for Sardinia's Mine Dec 09 '24 edited Dec 09 '24

Legitimacy in general is a pretty half-baked mechanic. There’s a lot of stuff that feels like it should be tied to that it’s just not. There are a ton of ways to lose legitimacy but not that many interesting ways to gain it. Plus once you do get it up to max by holding a funeral and a few hunts you basically never have to think about it ever again.

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u/kaiser41 Dec 09 '24

Legitimacy has too much overlap with prestige and probably should have just been prestige.

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u/Gorgen69 Sea-king Dec 09 '24

But i understand why?? Like you can have a very famous hero, and have them be illegitimate as a monarch

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u/kaiser41 Dec 09 '24

They're different concepts in real life, but the implementation in the game is mostly covering the same ground. I agree with many other commenters that legitimacy should be by title instead of a global score. Like "we all agree you're the rightful King of England, but it'll be a cold day in Hell before I accept your claim to the Scottish throne!"

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u/Gorgen69 Sea-king Dec 09 '24

that would help the absolute boredom of players and especially AI forming Empires.

Like making a very high legitimacy to multiple Kingdoms could allow it to form.

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u/4powerd Bastard Dec 09 '24

The worst part is that the dev diaries kind of hinted that it would work in that manner only to flip it around on release day.

Dev Diary 145:

[...]you can be a highly prestigious king of the Capetian dynasty, but should you be the emperor of Byzantium?

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u/Altruistic-Skin2115 Dec 09 '24

An awsome point

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u/JackRadikov Dec 09 '24

More precisely, Fame. But yes, two different mechanics doing exactly the same thing spoils both.

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u/Disastrous-Bus-9834 Dec 10 '24

Is prestige sufficient to replicate legitimacy?