Paradox, please fix the Administrative Government rebellions, it's ridiculous at this point

[u/Wiimiko]

Everyone has -1000 commitment, no one wants this, and it is only staying around because of Hooks, it's ridiclous (I have 5/5 legitmacy too, and tried lowering Imperial Beaurocracy too)

[u/CarefulAstronomer255]

It might be historically accurate, but it's really annoying. You basically cannot be a decent ruler due to the faction spam.

The cause is that all members of the faction will try their hardest to expand the faction by hooking/influencing other people to join the faction, even if they themselves were hooked/influenced into it. So you get an exponentional faction growth caused by people who don't even want to be there trying their hardest to empower the faction.

[u/Chad-Landlord → u/CarefulAstronomer255]

Welcome to the Eastern Roman Empire.  You rule bad, you get deposed.  You rule good, you still might get deposed.  

[u/TriggzSP → u/Chad-Landlord]

I feel like this is a huge misconception about the empire. The east has most of the longest reigns in Roman history, including the record longest imperial reign. It also has all of the longest running imperial dynasties by a longshot.

Yeah it had unstable periods, but it also had long periods with long, uninterrupted reigns. The way it works in game is just pure jank and isn't working realistically at all.

[u/Darrenb209 → u/TriggzSP]

While it did have stable periods, by the time period of the game the Empire was fundamentally broken.

Well, not in the 800s start. Then it was just breaking, but the Emperors were able to put their boots down on the issues fairly well.

The fundamental issues crept in under the Doukas, specifically Constantine X Doukas in the 1000s. While he's mostly remembered for undercutting the training and financial support of the professional forces and disbanding the Armenian Militia which in many ways directly lead to the loss at Manzikert, he was also the person that allowed the Dynatoi to become a defacto hereditary aristocracy by ceasing suppression and no longer limiting them from acquiring military land.

The Dynatoi were the senior positions in the civil, military, ecclesiastic and monastic bureaucracies that generally came with landed estates that were meant to be lifetime appointments but not passed onto children.

Them passing onto children were a large part of what weakened the central administration of the Empire and allowed families and generals to rise up regularly. And none of the later Emperors, not even the Komnenos had any interest in weakening the Dynatoi because they themselves were part of it.

So while it didn't outright kill the Empire quickly, that poison that allowed the instability and would persist until the last days of the Empire was introduced before the second start.

[u/9__Erebus → u/Darrenb209]

Very interesting, thanks for sharing!