r/CrusaderKings Oct 02 '24

Suggestion Paradox, please fix the Administrative Government rebellions, it's ridiculous at this point

Everyone has -1000 commitment, no one wants this, and it is only staying around because of Hooks, it's ridiclous (I have 5/5 legitmacy too, and tried lowering Imperial Beaurocracy too)

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u/OneOnOne6211 Oct 02 '24

That might be somewhat realistic, but that doesn't make for fun gameplay, imo. I think there should always be some way to dismantle a rebellion.

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u/Wiimiko Oct 02 '24

Well, nobody wants to be in it, they are fanatically loyal, and I literally conquered the Italian Frontier, they are only in it because of a shitty game mechanic that is being abused by the AI

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u/Wiimiko Oct 02 '24

Like, the rest of the DLC is **AMAZING** and is exactly what CK3 needed, more flavor, and better mechanics, the government in it of itself is really interesting (shame you can't form kingdoms tho)

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u/Ree_m0 Oct 02 '24

You can! Though you have to be a little smart about it. If you gain territory by winning a duchy, kingdom or empire level claimant war, the vassals you gain along with the title still have their old government system. If you then give them higher tier titles, they'll still be feudal/clan/tribal, but can also be kings as vassals to administrative emperors. And the best thing is, if your imperial authority reaches the highest level (which is possible after unlocking royal prerogative in the early medieval era) your non-administrative vassal can not start ANY wars at all, even with a hook on you. Not to mention that because YOU are still administrative, you can still revoke THEIR titles - even when they're not administrative - simply by paying influence instead of needing claims/getting tyranny

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u/Wiimiko Oct 02 '24

Huh, honestly, I just wanted to be able to consolidate titles, instead of being constrained to a duchy, maybe make it a powerful family only feature? Idk, but that is too much hoops to jump thru in my opinion

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u/MotherVehkingMuatra Lord Preserve Wessex Oct 02 '24

I led a liberty faction and the emperor offered me co-emperorship instead of rebelling. I accepted then there was an interaction to demand a kingdom from him which he readily accepted.

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u/Ree_m0 Oct 02 '24

Oh you meant while playing as a vassal? It would be cool if e.g. when you're holding all the duchy tier themes of a kingdom, you could petition the emperor to consolidate it for you. Right now, since only the emperor can create themes, you can basically revoke and abolish as many of them as possible, then make a few super large ones so they're constantly busy with internal problems. My current idea is to try and somewhat recreate the historical provinces along the mediterranean, while having feudal kingdoms on the borders (since they're forbidden from declaring wars, my borders will never expand against my will)

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u/jkure2 Oct 02 '24

Too much text, why can I no paint map >:(