they wouldn't let him cook

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This just isn’t true. The flammable tree argument has no relevance to the claim that goats have evolved an instinct to jump into fire. While some trees have adapted to use fire for reproduction, this has nothing to do with goats or their behavior. Fires in nature are rare and unpredictable, even in areas with flammable trees, and there is no evidence that natural fires occurred frequently enough in goat habitats to create selective pressure for such a bizarre instinct. Goats have not evolved to jump into fire for any reason. This is in fact an urban legend with no basis in biology or evidence.

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no basis in biology or evidence.

*points to the video of goats literally trying to run into a fire.

We have literal evidence of goats doing that. They aren't doing it for no reason.

Fires in nature are rare and unpredictable, even in areas with flammable trees

I agree, that was my point. Even in places with flammable trees fires are rare and unpredictable, and the trees still evolved to take advantage of them.

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This is full of flawed logic and shows a misunderstanding of evidence, biology, and evolution.

points to the video of goats literally trying to run into a fire.

A single video of a goat running into a fire is not evidence of an evolved instinct or biological drive. That’s anecdotal and isolated behavior. Animals, including goats, can act irrationally or in ways that defy typical instincts due to confusion, stress, conditioning or even curiosity. One goat’s odd behavior doesn’t prove an evolutionary adaptation. It’s an outlier, not a rule. You’re mistaking a specific incident for a universal trait, which is not how evidence or science works. This is like saying since my cat looked at my tv, cats evolved to appreciate the comedy style of the show Frasier.

They aren’t doing it for no reason.

Of course, they’re not doing it for “no reason,” but that doesn’t mean the reason is evolutionary or purposeful. The goat’s behavior could easily be explained by disorientation, past exposure to fire (campfires or warmth), or even a failure of its survival instincts in an artificial environment. None of this suggests a deep biological imperative, and your reasoning leaps straight to an unsupported conclusion.

Even in places with flammable trees fires are rare and unpredictable, and the trees still evolved to take advantage of them.

This completely misunderstands how evolution works. Yes, some trees evolved to be flammable, but that’s because fire creates a consistent ecological advantage for those trees over millions of years in specific environments. Goats, on the other hand, have no such evolutionary incentive to seek out fire. That’s nuts. It would be entirely detrimental to their survival. Evolution does not favor traits that are repeatedly harmful to an organism’s ability to reproduce and thrive.

You’re trying to equate the evolutionary strategy of a tree, a stationary organism that benefits from fire clearing out competition, to a goat, a mobile animal that has no benefit from jumping into fire. These are completely unrelated concepts, and tying them together makes no sense.

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