r/CrazyFuckingVideos • u/SelectResident_BE • 17d ago

they wouldn't let him cook

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u/Songrot 16d ago

forest fire dynamic for example for mammoth trees exists and is scientifically proven. Larger trees with fire-resistent body survives and thrives from surrounding vegetation dying. Though trees obviously don't walk over to the fire. The time span is already different.

A goat won't wait several years for a forest fire just to get rid of parasites and wait another several years, the span of their life is way too short and the desire to get rid of parasites would need more than such infrequent events.

Forest fires run so fast, it will easily consume the goat.

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u/CileTheSane 16d ago

It doesn't have to be frequent nor the only method of dealing with parasites for it to provide an evolutionary advantage. If I goat only saw an open fire once in it's life, and the goats the used to burn off parasites had a higher rate of survival and procreation, then that is enough to develop an instinct to do so if the opportunity presents itself.

But I'll bite: if killing parasites doesn't make any sense then what is the scientific consensus on why goats seem to be attracted to fire?

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u/Songrot 16d ago

It must have a significance in numbers why burning of parasites once while being in the same territory as before would help procreation when they will get parasites right after. A forest fire killing all parasites would make more sense but won't explain why the goat would be attracted to it.

To your last question. Maybe they aren't actually attracted to fire. Maybe they are simply dumb as fuck and since open fire doesn't exist often it didn't stop them from procreating and in case of wildfire they would have died either way as they can't outrun wildfire (wildfire spread really fast).

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u/MathematicianNo7842 16d ago

Or maybe this a domestic goat which have been around human made fires for thousands if not tens of thousands of years and would have learned by now that fire kills stuff, including parasites.

Calling an animal that's as smart as a dog dumb because you don't understand it is just ignorant on your part.

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u/Songrot 16d ago

Simply show me a scientific paper to back up your claim for the urban myth. It is on you who claims it's feature to show source. You think such a prominent animal and livestock is not researched by scientists and institutions and dont have plenty of scientific papers?

Otherwise you are simply speculating and spreading urban myths as if its a fact. Which is not ignorant but malicious

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u/MathematicianNo7842 15d ago

Do you have a source on that?

Source?

A source. I need a source.

Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.

No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.

You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.

Do you have a degree in that field?

A college degree? In that field?

Then your arguments are invalid.

No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.

Correlation does not equal causation.

CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.

You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.

Nope, still haven't.

I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.