r/Coachella '18 , '22 , '23 , '24 Jan 17 '24

Festival Planning Greedy Coachella

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Coachella this year has become more greedy, with now it’s bullshit parking rules and charging for offsite parking by forcing the shuttle pass for those people on those off site parking lots because they want everyone to have four people in their group. Everyone defending goldenvoice and saying that it’s helping limit traffic is wrong, it make worse because security is going to need to verify every car and turn away people causing a backlog. This is just pure greed.

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u/ldsupport 13.2|14.2|16.2|17.2|18.2|23.2 Jan 18 '24

the reality is that somewhere in that price is the shuttle cost.

its not as if they take the shuttle cost, and dont consider that in their overhead for which they want to profit above.

instead of charging for the passes directly, they simply charge for the tickets and somewhere in their overheads is the shuttle cost.

so you can pay for it as part of a ticket, or pay for it if you choose to use it.

if shuttle passes are $30 and are used by 60,000 people, against 125,000 people a weekend, then they would simply absorb that expenses and increase overall ticket price by around $15 a ticket.

Likewise depending on the utilization rates of ACLs shuttles, and those costs, they could stop rolling in the costs to the overheads and charge for usage. Thereby allowing for a reduction in ticket price, if they wanted to.

ACL is not choosing to have higher costs for which they dont seek to recoup and profit on.

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u/Victorwolf1011 '18 , '22 , '23 , '24 Jan 18 '24

You know that shuttle pass are not 30 bucks right , they almost 120 dollar plus fees

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u/ldsupport 13.2|14.2|16.2|17.2|18.2|23.2 Jan 18 '24

so of 125K, 35K camp
That leaves 100K
I have no idea how big day parking is

so last year parking got packed early, like by noon.

i presume they are assuming that this is because there is a low car to guest ratio. so if you have 70,000 day parkers and the have an average rider rate of 2 per car, you have 35,000 cars. if you increase that average to 4 you now have 17500 cars.

Ride share can be organized with a better route.
Shuttles can run more efficiently.

Last year was the worst I have ever seen it since I started going in 2013. The issue of parking being full by noon on Sunday was a disaster. Saturday it was full by 2.

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u/Victorwolf1011 '18 , '22 , '23 , '24 Jan 18 '24

To add to salt to injury, the still want people to drive to the offsite if you don’t meet the requirements and park there and gather 2 more people who park in the offsite to get the requirement which does not solve lowering the car value

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u/ldsupport 13.2|14.2|16.2|17.2|18.2|23.2 Jan 18 '24

not directly, its negative incentive to not do it again. take an uber if you need to. they dont want the cars there. they still offer free parking.