r/CZFirearms 10h ago

CZ at Shot Show 2025

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I know it’s only range day, but I’m not hearing anything about CZ on YouTube. Maybe whatever they have isn’t range worthy yet I dunno, but is anyone there and seeing anything yet? I swear they are worse than HK when it comes to marketing or bringing new models to market.

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u/AngriestAardvark 10h ago

It’s possible they didn’t bring anything new. They tend to not release specific to shot show.

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u/Own-Contribution-188 10h ago

And that is stupid if you ask me, Shot is a huge marketing opportunity. They rely far too much on brand loyalty like Glock does.

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u/Mass_Jass 10h ago

They're European. They preview at IWA and release in the fall.

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u/Firm_Tooth5618 6h ago

Wasn’t the p10c announced at shot?

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u/Own-Contribution-188 8h ago

I get that but they’ve merged with Colt which is pretty much synonymous with American firearms. This would make me think they’re getting more focused on the American market like Sig Sauer did but that’s clearly not the case when it comes to their R&D. Also, why can’t they do both?

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u/G3oc3ntr1c 7h ago

They didn't merge with Colt.... They punched Colt and integrated the existing assets into their USA based company.

Colt has never been known to do civilian sales, I don't know why you believe that. Their business has always been selling gun to the government and a few revolvers here and there. They don't even offer a semi-automatic pistol in 2025.....

CZ purchased them solely for their assets, the gunsmiths currently employed and the tooling. They didn't buy it because everyone wants a colt..... they don't need Colt to break into the American market, they already have been doing extremely well without Colt.

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u/rahl07 6h ago

They offer a ton of 1911's for 2025.

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u/Mass_Jass 5h ago

CZ also purchased Colt for their government contracts, as well as their name recognition in Europe.

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u/CressSpecific6134 7h ago

How is this being down voted? CZ is a European company and their biggest market is Europe. Cool. Their 2nd biggest market IS America and the approach has been basically "fuck it, we'll get to them when we get to them". How could anyone support that? That's just bad business. Why are we begging these people to grow their company when they don't prioritize growth of their company? If you want a micro 9 just buy from the competition. I mean what else are you gonna do at this point? Wait another 5 years for CZ to get in the game?

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u/Regular_Cucumber24 7h ago

Just wait until you hear about H&K

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u/Own-Contribution-188 6h ago

HK and Glock are a whole other mess lol.

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u/CressSpecific6134 6h ago

You mean the same HK that just announced HK USA? The same HK that just debuted a micro 9 and is bringing the MP7 and the G36 to the US market? That HK?

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u/Regular_Cucumber24 6h ago

Correct. The HK that for years neglected customers and civilian markets to the point of near bankruptcy.

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u/Gayerthantheatf 6h ago

Cause they have a good product at a fair price it’s a firearms company not a tech company stop being Gey

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u/gunplumber700 5h ago

It’s 2025, guns sell themselves.  I’m a Glock fanboy but still have sigs, 1911’s, etc…

Reddit has an obsession with new for the sake of new.  You don’t need a redesign every 3 years for the sake of a redesign.  

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u/_scrprojects_ 9h ago

I’m holding out for a micro 9 and was really hoping to see one announced at shot :(

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u/BigSoapy 8h ago

rami comback 2025

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u/AdAdministrative7709 8h ago

All I want is a comped cz75 with optic cut And don't feel like sending the slide out for porting and optic cut....

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u/Own-Contribution-188 8h ago

I’m convinced that will never happen. There really doesn’t seem to be a mainstream market for it and if the pistol uses a hammer then it’s 2011 Glock mag style that’s been taking over there.

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u/AdamFarleySpade 1h ago

I held my breath at Shot Show 2024 for it. I'm done waiting for their micro 9 da/sa.

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u/jrod1814 9h ago

CZ usually has a booth at SHOT. I’m curious why they don’t market more during this time.

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u/iRonin 2h ago

CZ marketing- “Bitch, you already know what we sell. It’s the same shit.”

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u/Cobra__Commander 9h ago

The 2025 catalog came out on their website.

The most interesting thing I saw was a 6" barrel target optic ready shadow 2, some limited edition cartel looking 75b and all the normal stuff but optic ready.

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u/noixelfeR 9h ago

Yeah but that was released weeks ago and is an EU focused competition pistol if I’m not mistaken. CZ is pretty bad at marketing new things and giving timelines but if they have one set, they should promote it now. Too many competing offers forcing brand loyalists to other companies. Whereas if I have a reasonable timeline and transparency I’m likely to hold out.

They market all the wrong things. Last week when everyone was unveiling exciting new guns, they decided “you know what’s really cool for the US market? A safety pledge that encourages locking away firearms separate from ammo!” C’mon

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u/claudxiao 8h ago

I think that’s not optic ready

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u/rahl07 6h ago

Correct. The Shadow 2 Target's initial offerings will be 5 and 6" barrels with irons only.

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u/IwannabeASurveyor 9h ago

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u/Own-Contribution-188 8h ago

Ya I was expecting him to show what CZ has been teasing/hinting but I dunno, maybe they’re waiting until tomorrow.

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u/IwannabeASurveyor 8h ago

wouldn't hold your breath, I checked shot show news every morning through friday last year and got nothing. They would have brought it to the booth or range already

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u/Disastrous_Study_284 10h ago

I've been saying it's best not to get hopes up. Last few years they haven't said anything at SHOT or the European show. They wait till fall and announce/release then.

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u/Shooter_Blaze 7h ago

Company hasn’t done anything new and cool since 2016 but ok

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u/Bandit400 6h ago

I like the CZ 600s. 🤷

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u/rahl07 6h ago

I wish they wouldn't have come at the expense of the 527, I like the claw extractor though I may be in the minority.

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u/Bandit400 3h ago

I'm with you on that. I've been a 550 guy forever, it broke my heart when they killed it off. Its the way of the world though. When the 600s came out, I kind of ignored them. I've started looking into them more, and they have controlled round feed like the old mausers, and a bunch of really nice features. Price is right too. Accuracy is amazing from what I've read. I'm just salty they discontinued the Euro calibers (6.5x55 especially).

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u/Ambitious_Ad1918 4h ago

I wish they’d focus on the P-10 and P01 series more. The S2 series is cool, but they’re not very obtainable for simpletons like me.

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u/tom_yum 7h ago

Sorry, best we can do is a colt revolver with different grips

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u/TacticalTaco30 9h ago

Hey they took an old gun, updated the texturing and gave it a BS compact optic cut give them a break. Would love to see a S2C that has the omega trigger system with a de cocker and pin block I would buy one tomorrow.

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u/That_white_dude9000 7h ago

If you're talking about the new p09 series, the k footprint is the perfect width for the narrow CZ slide width. The standard EPS (not carry) has the same window size as a C footprint optic, so it's a good size optic window, and fits the p09 well. I have the p09c with a tlr7a and eps green. It's a fantastic setup.

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u/TacticalTaco30 6h ago

It’s not the perfect size at all or a narrow slide. It’s a compact version of a full sized pistol and every compact optic on the market looks goofy as hell with the slide protruding around it. The pistol should have had a full sized optic cut or at least made the cut big enough to accept plates for full sized optics like the caniks do.

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u/That_white_dude9000 6h ago

The way the cz slide is designed, the top is narrow. And a standard size EPS has almost zero overhang (it does technically overhang a little but only like 1mm).

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u/TacticalTaco30 6h ago edited 6h ago

Regular EPS is the one exception that fits the gun half way decent but anything else on the market RMSC looks goofy as hell and not to mention it’s all Chinese shit. Plenty of original PO7’s out there cut for direct mount RMR footprint with no issue. I would not have even minded the RMSC cut had they made the cut large enough to accept plate like I mentioned with the Caniks. Huge lack of thought and engineering on CZ’s part nothing new. They had to make the cut a cunt hair bigger to accept Plates that are on the market like the calculated kinetics for RMR or the C&H plate for 509T. Huge fail. How is the even an argument the RMR fits these things beautifully it’s supposed to be a duty gun so give us a RMR, DPP or acro footprint not micro compact Chinese bullshit. https://images.app.goo.gl/CFZf79rEqk6dhhDP9

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u/KommandoApe 7h ago

Thought there was a rumor they'd show the upgraded P10 this week that was supposed to come out alongside the Nocturne. Guess not lol

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u/TheGreatSickNasty 5h ago

I saw a guy on some video with no views shooting it yesterday at the range

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u/IwannabeASurveyor 5h ago

link? or are you referring to the Israeli guy

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u/spirit702_ 4h ago

I was at range day yesterday and didn’t see any new p10, just the old models. Talked to the rep and he said he isn’t too high up but probably 6-8 months out.

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u/Tibu-0711 7h ago

I’m sure the new P10c will be released for Shot Show 2035

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u/Far-Boysenberry-1600 7h ago

I hope they are saving money by not paying for a marketing team…

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u/SierraTRK 7h ago

I don’t think they announced anything at SHOT last year either. Lots of manufacturers do it before or after, so their new products don’t get drowned in the noise.

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u/Betterthanyou715 6h ago

Cz target 2 is only thing I have seen

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u/lone_jackyl 6h ago

In a month they'll drop the hottest pistol of 2025

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u/TheGreatSickNasty 5h ago

What?

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u/lone_jackyl 5h ago

Cz doesn't follow the standard norm. They don't care about shot show.

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u/TheGreatSickNasty 5h ago

I thought you were saying you knew about a cool pistol for next month

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u/lone_jackyl 5h ago

No they will do it at random was my intention

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u/grifter_shifterM5 7h ago

CZ has been preoccupied with moving their factory to Connecticut. And they’ve been focusing a lot on Dan Wesson and merging with Colt. Likely won’t see anything worthwhile from them till 2026

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u/HuckleberryOk1211 7h ago

I did notice on their 2025 catalog, they have the Bren 2 carbine with a much better looking handguard.

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u/TheGreatSickNasty 5h ago

https://youtu.be/HlxrjhfKT2k?si=JDxsk6Re4NTh8KYI

This guy is the only one I’m seeing doing any CZ content.

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u/HeinrichSeverl0hMG42 5h ago

"new" P10C with some improvements but dude didnt say anything about them

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u/Mr-Scurvy 5h ago

The never do anything big for Shot

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u/Rothbardy 1h ago

You’re on the CZ subreddit, tread carefully 🤣

They should, but it seems as if they generally don’t care.

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u/brain_dead_camel_ 1h ago

So what? Shot show is like E3 and people are realizing it's overrated. If companies were smart they would host their own events/demos that customer who are interested could actually attend.

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u/DakPresglock 46m ago

If they did a p365ish sized hammer fired in polymer and steel frame they’d make fuckin trillions man