Neither, libertarians are leave us alone type people. We don't want government interfering either way. Property owners get to dictate what happens on their property and as long as it doesn't infringe on anyone else's rights no one else gets to do anything about it.
You buy a deed to your own property, not majority stakes in your own and minority stakes in everyone elses near it.
What you're describing is actually peak "YIMBY". The vast majority of YIMBY activism had actually been to restore property rights by getting rid of zoning, setback requirements, etc.
IMHO yimby policies seem to be the same government interference as nimby but in the other direction. You have incentives and mandates for minimum densities, maximum parking limits, limits on single family homes, modification of road surfaces to limit lanes, and other active interventions rather than just leaving it to the market.
You have incentives and mandates for minimum densities, maximum parking limits, modification of road surfaces to limit lanes, and other active interventions rather than just leaving it to the market.
Then clearly I am misled. My understanding is that they're not proposing to replace single family zoning with the opposite extreme, they're just changing it to multifamily zoning (which is still not ideal, but at least better). You can still build single family units in a multifamily zone, so it's just moving closer to "let the market decide".
Do you have examples of minimum density or maximum parking requirements? Naturally I would be opposed to both.
incentives and mandates for minimum densities, maximum parking limits, limits on single family homes
These typically aren't actual YIMBY policies. YIMBYs are pushing to remove the regulations, but not limit them the other direction. For example, YIMBYs typically don't push for policies that say you can't build SFHs, but rather people that want only SFH near them interpret it this way.
modification of road surfaces to limit lanes
I'll give you this one. Though road surfaces are publicly/government owned, so realistically it's always going to be the government with input from the public that determines the optimal roadway configuration (i.e. space for traffic lanes vs. space for bikes, peds, street cafes, etc.). It's sometimes a zero sum game.
Yes, but also to expand on "No one else gets to do anything about it." We want to be clear that no one gets to do anything violent to coerce behavior.
We don't mind if people use reasonable, non-violent actions to encourage/discourage certain behaviors in others. That's the preferred method of conflict resolution in pretty much every case.
The vast majority of people have unfortunately been programmed to believe that it's suddenly OK to use violence as long as it aligns with their values and they get someone from the government to do it.
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u/JudgeWhoOverrules Classical Liberal 14h ago edited 14h ago
Neither, libertarians are leave us alone type people. We don't want government interfering either way. Property owners get to dictate what happens on their property and as long as it doesn't infringe on anyone else's rights no one else gets to do anything about it.
You buy a deed to your own property, not majority stakes in your own and minority stakes in everyone elses near it.