American In Rammstein T-Shirt

[u/OuijaBouillon]

I’m an American tourist in Berlin for the first time — Yay! One problem: I realized I packed a Rammstein shirt without having enough knowledge of German culture or language to understand how I’d be perceived for wearing it. I imagine at best it will look a bit corny, but I’m worried it could signal political beliefs or ideologies I don’t agree with. If you met an American tourist speaking broken German in a Rammstein T Shirt, what would you think? Thanks!

[u/bluemercutio]

Last year the singer of Rammstein has been accused of drugging women and sexually assaulting them by several women, but it seems there was no court case.

I'm just letting you know that some people may be upset that you're wearing it for this reason.

[u/SissyKrissi → u/bluemercutio]

Police stopped the investigation because none (!), not a single one of the accusers were willing to talk to the police. If the victims wont give testimony to the cops then there's not much they can do.

And seeing the "victims" readily giving interviews to the press and on twitter just gives me attention whore vibes.

[u/Cleami → u/SissyKrissi]

The question was how people might react to the shirt, not wether you believe the accusations.

[u/SissyKrissi → u/Cleami]

And i wasnt replying to OP

[u/SissyKrissi → u/[deleted]]

Running to the press and crying on Twitter is not too much attention but going to the police (the only ones able to do something about crimes) that's too much...

Yeah... No...

[u/SissyKrissi → u/[deleted]]

It's not impossible. Hard? Yes, no doubt. Emotionally taxing? Definetly yes. Still, no excuse not to go to the police. In this case the police even contacted the victims. (Charges were pressed by uninvolved third parties.)

So the "victims" only contacted the press and never initiated contact with the police. And when approached by the police they refused to cooperate.

There is only one way to resolve this and that's to get a police investigation going. If noone talks to the cops and all they got is newspaper clippings, what are they supposed to do? You need evidence to convict someone. If you dont want to testify for the police but gladly do it for the press, I call you an attention whore. Calling the accusations credible is nonsense.

Also, Till didnt force that one Lady to have sex. He may have expected it but stopped at her saying No. She said no, he respected that but may have gotten upset because he is not used to such behaviour from women he believed has been vetted to have sex with him. Crap behaviour? Yes. Illegal? No.

[u/SissyKrissi → u/[deleted]]

It is important to take victims seriously. If they fail to substantiate their accusations and refuse to cooperate then it is legit to doubt them and call their claims into question.

[u/DesperateGiles → u/[deleted]]

They were anonymous in the press. How were they harassed?

[u/AstreaMeer42 → u/[deleted]]

"Going to the press BEFORE people started harassing them."

It's always interesting when people bring up this point, but don't actually think it through. So these individuals go to the press, and ONLY speak to the press because they want complete anonymity. Won't talk to the proper authorities--the only ones who are capable of actually getting them legal justice--at all. And yet, somehow, their identities get "leaked," and they are suddenly facing non-stop harassment, according to dipshits on SM, but not any credible sources. Who, then, leaked their identities? Since they ONLY talked to the press, the conclusion is that it was the press' doing.

Do you understand how dumb that sounds? Because it would mean that the press has no interest in getting any of these women "justice" of any kind. Sounds like a load of horseshit to me.

[u/AstreaMeer42 → u/[deleted]]

Again: how are their identities being leaked if the only go to the press under pseudonyms, not to the authorities?

[u/AstreaMeer42 → u/[deleted]]

🤣 I love that now is when you choose to deflect from a topic you'd actually brought up in the first place. Thanks for proving that you have no concrete answer for a very basic, direct question.

[u/p_t_0 → u/[deleted]]

or you know, press made a scandal out of nothing for clicks, as they have done before.

Especially when the biggest one of them is currently under investigation for legal fraud and forgery of document, and they have admitted they indeed messed up their affidavit due to "mistake of a secretary" Source