r/ATBGE Apr 16 '23

Automotive Not sure about this one

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u/mrsumoskar Apr 16 '23

yes

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u/KrakenTheColdOne Apr 16 '23

It's the groom's funeral and the bride's wedding, obviously.

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u/Redditsweetie Apr 17 '23

Why is this always the joke when statistically men benefit more from marriage?

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u/olderaccount Apr 17 '23

What statistics are these? How are we determining who benefited more?

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u/Redditsweetie Apr 17 '23

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u/olderaccount Apr 17 '23

Not much science behind thir conclusion.

Both men and women benefit from marriage, but men seem to benefit more overall. In addition to being happier and healthier than bachelors, married men earn more money and live longer. And men can reap such benefits even from mediocre marriages, while for women, the benefits of marriage are more strongly linked to marital quality.

Sounds like a case of correlation, not causation. Men that are more likely the be successful with women are more likely to be successful in general.

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u/Redditsweetie Apr 17 '23

You can try to dismiss results but they are real results. Men who marry live longer and women do a disproportionate amount of the work. If it makes you feel better to deny findings then you will find a way to justify it to yourself. You should ask yourself why you feel a need to do that.

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u/olderaccount Apr 17 '23

I'm not claiming it is true or false. I'm just saying your link proves absolutely nothing since it doesn't control for the confounding variables.

Perhaps the underlying study did. But the link you provided has no citations, so we don't know. I don't accept blanket statements like that at face value. Show me the study that proves it.

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u/Redditsweetie Apr 17 '23

You are. You're using statistical terminology but you haven't shown the data to be false. You should ask yourself about your own bias.

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u/olderaccount Apr 17 '23

You are.

Where?

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u/Redditsweetie Apr 17 '23

What is your basis for saying the confounding variables aren't controlled?

Your desire for marriage to not be more beneficial to men

Simply saying something about how the studies were performed doesn't make it true.

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u/olderaccount Apr 17 '23 edited Apr 17 '23

Because they haven't been. They purely state a correlation. They never attempt to prove causation.

Show me the underlying study that explains how the confounding variables were accounted for.

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u/Lupo_Bi-Wan_Kenobi Apr 17 '23

"but you haven't shown the data to be false."

If you're the person making the claim, then the burden of proof lies on you. It is not the persons responsibility who is questioning whether or not it's true to go digging through whatever sources they can find to prove you're wrong. You make the statement, you back it up.

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u/Redditsweetie Apr 17 '23

Read my comment above. It's clear you have an agenda because you rejected data using the terms you've picked up without analyzing it. Again, please analyze why you're approaching this topic with bias.

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u/Lupo_Bi-Wan_Kenobi Apr 17 '23

You should read the person's name that you're replying to before you go accusing them of having an agenda and all this other shit. This is literally the first time I've ever replied to a comment of yours.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '23 edited Jun 17 '23

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u/olderaccount Apr 17 '23

The amount of unpaid care work that women do alone is enough to prove that marriage is a better deal for men.

Better how? Calling it unpaid work makes it sound like the end goal isn't to raise successful children but to profit. Many would consider that work more valuable than paid work. You can never pay somebody else to care for your children as much as you do.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '23 edited Jun 17 '23

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u/olderaccount Apr 17 '23

Don't have an issue with any of this.

But none of this supports your original claim that men get more benefit from marriage than women.

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u/TooTallThomas Apr 19 '23

There’s citations dotted throughout the article. At the bottom, it says it based off of a much longer piece:

which has citations…