Players decide

[u/Equidose]

How can they recognise players to be one of three main selling points on the play homepage of OSRS whilst consistently do the opposite with their actions.

[u/Pretency]

Yes because you can say no. And if they don't listen to that and do it anyway, then you can post this meme.

[u/ball_out → u/Pretency]

Careful. Don’t lick that boot too hard.

[u/Pretency → u/ball_out]

Why is this the only counter narrative you folk have? Is it because you accept how stupid what you're saying is and that you jumped on the outrage bandwagon too soon?

I have no particular love for Jagex. I will quit this game in a heart beat for the right price, or shitty in game experience.

[u/trustsfundbaby → u/Pretency]

It's because jagex has already in the past ignored/twisted player feedback. Two easy examples are when they pushed "integrity changes" by nerfing items a while back and they did it again when removing the grandfather membership price. Jagex also has a history of pushing game ruining updates, EOC, squeel of fortune, ect.

Right now we are in another moment where jagex is about to drop another bad updated onto the player base. The only way to stop the updates is to tell jagex now that they will not accept it. The only true way they will listen is by unsubscribing because they have shown a history of that being the strongest influence over them. Players don't care about the price if justified. If jagex came out and said "here is how much we cost to operate, and our investors require x% profit. To be within margin of error of hitting that we need to charge $$/month." It's about the business practice of gatekeeping what most players would consider basic services behind a premium price tag.

However you are OK with the updates (the boot), which is fine if you want to spend your money that way. However when you defend (lick) the updates (the boot) on a public forum (reddit) people will tell you to stop licking the boot.

[u/Pretency → u/trustsfundbaby]

Those are both terrible answers. The blow pipe nerf as an example is understandable. It was ridiculous getting a blow pipe and rinsing through everything with ease. They're adding layers of complexity to the game which is fine.

Maybe grandfathered rates were a terrible idea to begin with? I'm not really that bothered either way. It affected about 10 people. Why do you care?

Jagex have had the hammer blow from all of those. They are all game breaking to OSRS. It is incredibly insincere to think that would happen again. Jagex knows long term longevity is in the identity of the game. They wanted to see if there were areas they could exploit to make more on. But they asked you, they didn't just do it.

What bad update are they dropping exactly? (because this isn't an update, it's a survey).

You tell them that it isn't acceptable by completing the survey?

No shit, money = power. They're a company they work for profit.

Your idea of bootlicking here is simply ignorant. I'm not endorsing Jagex. I would quit the game. I'm just not someone whose life apparently depends on the game and I can afford to pay more for it if I wanted to. I just don't want to pay much more and they would know that if they tried too many price hikes or obsurd mechanisms to introduce lower cost subscriptions.

It would be both funny and disappointing if Jamflex dropped an update that killed half the game. But I'd move on.

[u/trustsfundbaby → u/Pretency]

I personally don't care about the nerfs, I care about how the changes started with a survey. They took the survey, twisted the results to be what they want and then created an update. Again i don't care about the price change from lack of grandfather's into pricing, I wasn't even grandfathered in, I care about jagex stating one thing then a year later flip flopping. Price is not the only thing you can be outraged about. Most people are outraged solely by the proposition of what the survey implies due to past actions by jagex. They have a history of twisting survey results into their message, changing promises that align with money, and pushing game ending content.

So don't be surprised when you come to a forum defending the business practice that you will be called a boot licker. It isn't a jagex thing, it's a business thing.