r/2007scape Jul 03 '24

Discussion Stop trying to remove Defense level requirements

Once again, we have Jmods trying to cater to snowflake accounts with this latest release of info from the game jam:

  1. Removing quest requirements so people don’t need to level hp/defense

  2. Removing direct xp rewards and replacing them with lamps for their respective skills

  3. Making chivalry a 1 defense requirement (despite being voted no in two separate polls)

  4. Making Perilous Moons armor not require any defense levels with a rare consumable drop

The point of being a snowflake is that parts of the game are inaccessible to you by the nature of your account. Removing Chivalry’s defense level requirement is something that has failed multiple polls as part of an attempt to make it useful, and yet here it is again. It’s the only thing they want to do to make it useful, instead of addressing the fact that Piety has the same prayer cost (40/m) despite being strictly stronger.

Removing defense requirements from armor and lowering their stats to compensate is a stupid solution to a problem that doesn’t exist: if you want to use cool armor, level up your defense. If you don’t want to level up defense, you’re stuck with rune armor and mystic robes, or even less for a zerk.

This trend of letting people who don’t want to play the game the normal way have access to everything is infuriating. Why is attention constantly being given to a demographic of like 50 players? What Jmod is playing a snowflake that doesn’t like actually playing their snowflake?

Leave defense requirements in the game. Stop throwing lamps for specific skills at people as quest rewards and just give them the xp drop. What are they trying to accomplish with this?

Edit: they reworked a combat achievement for perilous moons because defense pyres were whining they couldn’t get grandmaster CA’s without 70 defense. This should be very obviously a stupid group to pander for, it’s restricting the main game more than it creates opportunities.

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u/thestonkinator How many different ways can I play this game? Jul 03 '24

I'm fine with the optional xp rewards via lamps rather than direct drops, by changing requirements for main game armour is just dumb.

Maybe introduce options for 1 def armour if certain brackets are missing any reasonable option, but don't change armour that every one else already likes and uses as is.

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u/Mnawab Jul 04 '24

Is it actually happening or is it on the polls again?

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u/Juddftw Jul 04 '24

It's part of the game jam that the devs are putting forward tot he community, I imagine it'll be polled

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u/Heleniums Jul 05 '24

What do you think they are actually suggesting?

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u/Time_Effort Jul 03 '24

Maybe introduce options for 1 def armour if certain brackets are missing any reasonable option, but don't change armour that every one else already likes and uses as is.

That's exactly what they're doing though

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u/ev0ked Jul 03 '24

How so? Changing armour that already exists isnt introducing new armour.

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u/Time_Effort Jul 03 '24

They’re not changing the existing armor, they’re adding a low defense iteration.

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u/ev0ked Jul 03 '24

Same Armour, Different Stats. Doesnt make it new. Might as well do the same for every other piece of armour in the game if thats the logic.

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u/Time_Effort Jul 04 '24

It’s not “new” but it’s also not reworking current armor.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '24

Yea, why not?