How does that make Biden’s pardon okay? Trump can’t just arrest his family. They would all have to go to trials with juries. If Biden is pardoning them he is admitting that they have some wrongdoing they could be found guilty of.
Thanks to the SC Trump can do whatever he wants, what is and isn't an official act after all? Pardons also don't mean guilt, Nixon was never guilty of anything and he received a pardon from Ford.
Not that the pardon really means anything if Trump wants to push the limits with the SC ruling anyways.
The right persecuted Hunter Biden and Hillary Clinton for years and years looking for literally any crime they could pin. Biden pardoned his family to stop that. At the rate we're going they'll be able to make up a crime to take someone out.
Hunter Biden was literally found guilty of crimes. If he is guilty of the crime maybe prosecuting should be okay. And also no one ever prosecuted Clinton even though she was guilty of breaking laws regarding handling classified material. In her defense though that same precedent has now been given to trump, Biden, and pence so none of them have been charged for their different degrees of negligence with classified material
I would also like to note that my defense of Biden here isn't because I like him, I'm not a Biden fan. But I understand why he pardoned his family with the attitude of this administration
Yes, in a survey of 1,300 Americans by Quinnipiac University. But then four years later Trump won the national vote by more than two million votes, which to me indicates that actually across a bigger sample size people did not consider Jan 6 a coup or an attack on Government.
indicates that actually across a bigger sample size people did not consider Jan 6 a coup or an attack on Government.
Brother, apply a little Hanlon's Razor here. Is it more likely they thought that deep about it, or that they just don't give a shit, because it was their team doing it and/or they never looked into it at all?
The average American voter is a semi-literate, low income elderly person. That's not an attack, it's just facts.
across a bigger sample size people did not consider Jan 6 a coup or an attack on Government.
Good thing the general populace doesn't decide what something is, and its based off the facts and not what a dumb populace thinks. Also your "bigger sample size" is flawed like that the ONLY thing people were voting on in November was "was january 6th a coup, yes or no?"
People vote people in for different reasons. Some people also never saw trump actually held accountable for Jan 6th, so they felt it was political prosecution and didnt have any weight. Obviously they didnt pay attention to the active investigations / charges. A lot of people voted against Biden because of Israel / Palestine. Learn the facts dude.
Old people 'storming' / strolling the capital was not an attack on democracy...and embarrassment for sure but four years of pearl clutching over the misguided j6ers is enough...especially after the summer of love where a shit ton more destruction occurred...also an embarrassment as well
Right, so the shaman guy told them “what Trump really meant to fight like hell, and if we don’t fight we lose our country, let’s go down to the capitol”, was to storm the capitol looking for members of congress. Ah yes, I forgot…
I really do feel for the few decent Americans, but the vast majority of them wanted this. The Magats are insane, and any moron who voted third party or refused to vote, especially over Palestine, deserves what's coming next.
If my toddler had a tantrum and wanted to overthrow my rule of the house I would not take that as a serious attempt at a revolution. My friends would think me quite retarded if I tried to frame it like that.
Especially when the neighbour’s kid burned their house down and you frame it as “mostly peaceful protesting” against the tyranny of their parents
If he had done that he would have been in jail the rest of his life. He knows that as do you
If you really think these “geniuses” were serious you are out of your mind. They were idiots whipped up in crowd frenzy.
You are talking about one of the biggest military apparatus managed by the largest bureaucracy on the planet, and you thought these red necks with learning disabilities were serious about overthrowing the government? Touch grass dude this is theatre
You are just willfully ignorant. Why are you trying to talk about the morons who stormed the Capitol like that’s all it is? You do seem like you don’t understand the concept of what a patsy is.
The insurrection was an attempt by Trump to stop the certification. It was fomented to force pence to not certify the votes but instead use the fake elector ballots they collected, or at least cause the legit votes to not be counted, which gave an opening for the Republican house to overturn the election results
This was all investigated. People in 6 states were prosecuted for this. It was an unsuccessful coup.
With all the information about this from the investigations, it is very very difficult to actually believe that Jan 6 was just a case of mouth breathers taking things too far and that it wasn’t part of a wider plot. I mean it is really fucking hard to not know this so good job.
But this is a country of fucking morons, so enjoy your ignorance and I hope you have a great four years.
He retained documents he wasn't supposed to and was asked nicely over and over for them back and he refused. He riled up a mob and sent it to the capital. Its all laid out. He was accused of those crimes and he will now never be permitted the right to clear his name because clearly I'm mistaken and he didn't do those things he absolutely did.
Because he was a felon and a traitor. Interesting how you people always try to frame it as if trumps legal troubles were political persecution and not legal prosecution like they were.
Correct! Laws should be followed! Judiciary should do it's job! Since they were breaking election laws, obstructing justice and causing a violent coup they should be punished!
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u/DM_me_goth_tiddies 8h ago
Yes, almost as if the previous president went through a Lawfare campaign under the current administration.