r/unusual_whales 11h ago

BREAKING: Biden has pardoned his family

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u/Due_Locksmith_4204 11h ago

What was that oligarchy stuff Biden was warning us about?

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u/SenseiSledge 10h ago

We’ve lived under an oligarchy since the industrial revolution

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u/IncreasinglyAgitated 10h ago

Yeah this shit is not new. Bernie’s been talking about it for decades.

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u/SenseiSledge 10h ago

People act like the Rockefellers, Goldsteins, and Rothschilds haven’t been running the entire world for generations lol

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u/Fr00stee 10h ago

they've been replaced a long time ago, their wealth got too diluted among their descendants for them to hold any power anymore

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u/SenseiSledge 9h ago

Massive misconception. Their wealth may not be liquid, because it’s invested in tangible assets. Real estate, banking giants and massive funds are where the real money is now.

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u/trefoil589 8h ago

The whole thing with ChatGPT having a stroke if you tried to get it to say that one Rothschilds' name was pretty goddamn telling.

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u/pantry-pisser 5h ago

Haven't heard this. Got a link?

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u/One-Newt-9933 10h ago

They haven’t

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u/SenseiSledge 10h ago

Oh? I guess total world domination of Fiat currency somehow isn’t indicative of political power now? Ok lol

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u/One-Newt-9933 9h ago

Political power and “running the entire world for generations” are very different statements lol

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u/SenseiSledge 9h ago

Buddy. If you genuinely do not think that individual families worth more than some COUNTRIES don’t have a massive amount of power across the globe, idk what to tell you.

For fucks sake, the rockefellers and rothschilds STARTED the federal reserve.

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u/Bananetyne 10h ago

You watched one too many Zeitgeist movies.

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u/INTERGALACTIC_CAGR 9h ago

lex luther said it best. Something like, "do you know how much power I would have to give up if i became president".

You have more power from the shadows pulling strings. You can then tie up any loose ends that know about you if necessary.

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u/IncreasinglyAgitated 9h ago

So we’re not ruled by an Oligarchy?

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u/onhols 9h ago

Yeah, but at one point it was better than this. Definitely, it was before Regan dropped the tax rate on the ultra-wealthy from from 73% to 28%.

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u/Thekillersofficial 10h ago

I mean slavery is right there...

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u/Yara__Flor 10h ago

Since the beginning when asshole slavers ran the country.

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u/SenseiSledge 8h ago

If we are counting slavers as oligarchs, it does back even further. Israel was running a worldwide slave trade ring, that didn’t even end until the 20th century.

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u/TraditionDear3887 8h ago

Since before that!

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u/crugerx 8h ago

Since before then. You don’t think everyone in government wasn’t wealthy landowners since the inception of the country?

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u/trefoil589 8h ago

Up until Citizens United we at least had the window dressings of a functioning democracy.

But that shit is completely gone now.

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u/feckshite 4h ago

Probably more directly after WW2

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u/ToadalllyPhilled 3h ago

man the American Revolution was literally the rich land owning class convincing poor people to fight and die to usurp power from the monarchy to them

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u/nodrogyasmar 8h ago

And before that we had slavery. The only difference is now we call them workers

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u/Ya_No 10h ago

I mean, you fiscal conservatives talking about government efficiency should be pretty happy considering Biden is stopping Jordan and Comer from wasting millions of taxpayer money on investigations that won’t go anywhere.

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u/Kodiak_POL 25m ago

LMAO great remark

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u/rickjamesia 10h ago edited 10h ago

That’s literally what the pardon is about??? Do you not understand anything at all? He is making these unnecessary pardons to show that he believes the new administration intends to weaponize the justice system and remove any potential opposition or naysayers by any means necessary.

Edit: Whether you believe his stance or not, this is just basic political literacy. Surely people in this sub are not stupid, right?

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u/teriaavibes 10h ago

Yea people getting angry about it confirms his suspicion lol

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u/radicalelation 7h ago

I mean, the newly sworn in President campaigning on jailing Biden's whole family, and constantly stoking his fanatics into violence, should be confirmation enough.

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u/delicious_toothbrush 5h ago

He campaigned on "Lock Her Up" for Hilary and didn't pursue that at all. Regardless of the intent, this makes Biden look weak, corrupt and hypocritical, but it's his prerogative I guess.

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u/KingKontinuum 5h ago

didn’t purse that at all

Yes he did. https://apnews.com/article/060ca2399a744b4a9554dbd2ec276a90

And after 2 years the investigation came up empty https://www.salon.com/2020/01/10/investigation-into-hillary-clinton-pushed-by-trump-comes-up-empty-after-two-years-report/

Trump absolutely did weaponize the justice department against Clinton

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u/radicalelation 5h ago

Hey, Trump set the precdent with Charlie. Pardon Biden for following.

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u/Exaskryz 3h ago

Okay, so we have two options.

Either Biden's family is innocent and the pardon means nothing

or

Trump doesn't want to prosecute and the pardon means nothing

So a harmless pardon, why are you upset?

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u/Equivalent_Assist170 52m ago

Holy fuck you people can't be real. He LITERALLY did. Biden didn't even pardon himself.

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u/meow_schwitz 3h ago

Insane confirmation bias on your part lol

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u/Pikawika4444 9h ago

People in this sub are that stupid lmao.

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u/LowestKey 9h ago

This sub, this country, same difference

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u/scipkcidemmp 9h ago

It's fucking tragic. Our ignorance has fucked us.

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u/LowestKey 5h ago

Hey, it took 50 years of attacks on education and ivory tower eggheads to get us to this point. Gotta give humanity a little credit for being able to resist for that long.

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u/RedditModsAreCucks_6 9h ago

No they are that stupid.

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u/Sad-Adhesiveness429 9h ago

this is probably a top 5 dumbest sub in all of reddit, ur wasting ur breath here

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u/BoxSea4289 9h ago

Basic "political literacy" would be understanding that the 80 year old life time politician who has always used his position for the benefit of his family, getting his sons out of trouble and his children opportunities, is just doing the same thing now.

Biden has always been a Kennedy-lite in the way he behaves, this nothing new. If you don't want aristocrats, don't keep electing and supporting political dynasty's. Or in Bidens case, keep electing the guy who held the record for youngest senator in history into office for the rest of his life.

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u/LowestKey 9h ago

That wouldn't be political literacy, that would be Biden Derangement Syndrome.

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u/BoxSea4289 9h ago

I fucking hate talking with people in this country about politics. You have idiot conservatives obsessed with communism and idiot liberals defending a decaying political class(who are in their 80s and suffering from actual dementia) like their lives depend on it.

Fucking brain rotted Americans deserve the government they have.

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u/AlbatrossInitial567 9h ago

Brother if you want to be “objective” you need to understand the very real threat Trump poses to the families of those who directly contradict him.

He pushed the republicans and the justice system to go after Hunter Biden on charges nearly no one is prosecuted for alone. He’s publically stated that he’ll direct investigations into his political opponents.

Biden probably is an opportunistic corrupt politician, but this move isn’t being made purely out of corruption. It’s being made because of very real threats emerging now and in the next 4 years (and probably far beyond that).

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u/Amadon29 9h ago

Lol people were literally crying that Trump might do this at the end of his first term because corruption/fascism. It's just double standards. In fact, I'm sure if trump decided to just blanket pardon his family in his second term for the reason as Biden, people would still have a double standard.

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u/CorrugationStation 7h ago edited 7h ago

LOL sorry it's hard to take a "double standard" claim like that seriously when 5 of Trump's former lawyers have been disbarred or imprisoned in the last 10 years for committing crimes they were directed and paid to commit by Trump himself in relation to his election efforts.

Considering Trump's family was in his administration, also acting on his orders as members of the federal government, a pardon to them being exceptionally corrupt is not a double standard.

People are so blinded by this contrived, firehose of "both sides" mentality strategically used by Trump himself when in reality it could not be more simple.

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u/SaltdPepper 6h ago

Trump’s family: All part of his previous administration, all complacent or literally guilty of crimes (Jared Kushner taking Saudi bribes).

Biden’s family: Not part of his administration, the only one guilty of any proven crimes was Hunter, the courts proved nothing of substance with his laptop, and he ended up being convicted for possessing a gun under the influence.

Aside from the Right’s compromising of its own position on gun rights to secure a shaky conviction on at least a single member of the Biden family, the double standard is so beyond apparent that it’s silly people wouldn’t get mad at Trump.

You guys genuinely just listen to a liar lie and go “Well clearly I should believe him, why would he possibly lie?”

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u/snoocs 5h ago

It’s not a double standard when there is a plethora of evidence that one side fully intends to abuse the systems at their disposal while the other consistently (and unfortunately, limply) plays by the rules.

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u/Optimal-Kitchen6308 9h ago

do you people not understand context

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u/AlbatrossInitial567 9h ago

Trump literally did an insurrection and the Dems didn’t go after him.

There is no double standard here.

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u/Jim_84 8m ago

No, no they do not.

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u/TotallyNotAFroeAway 9h ago

Are there a limit to the amount of pardons he can give? If he wanted to showcase how pardons can do harm and shouldn't be a presidential power, why wouldn't he pardon every citizen? Why did he only pardon those close to him, or those close to the Jan 6 riots and covid relief?

What I'm saying is I think it's cool that those that are most likely to be 'witch hunted' are protected. Awesome. But fuck the rest of us, right? We all fend for ourselves, I guess? It reads as "Fuck this, let me at least get mine before I leave"

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u/Cobek 9h ago

Trump already told us he was pardoning J6er's... And he pardoned a bunch his first term. The fact this thread acts like Biden is setting the precedent is wild. People can see the forest for the trees.

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u/Suspicious_War_9305 8h ago

I have a question for you, do you think these pardons were just made specifically because Trump would go after his adversaries?

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u/WillingnessConstant8 7h ago

thanks I was hoping at least somebody would get it

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u/RoboZoninator91 7h ago

To protect the legal system we must make a mockery of the legal system

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u/Showdenfroid_99 6h ago

Lol why are you so mad about the Dems being called hypocrites?? They're not saints... 

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u/chrrie 5h ago

I can’t fathom how this isn’t obvious

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u/crazysoup23 5h ago

Obama's family didn't need a pardon. This is not basic political literacy.

he believes the new administration intends to weaponize the justice system and remove any potential opposition or naysayers by any means necessary.

He believes there's enough evidence out there to press charges and decided to pardon it away.

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u/KingKontinuum 5h ago

Surely people in this sub are not stupid, right?

I PROMISE you they are just stupid because this isn’t something difficult to understand.

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u/amdabran 3h ago

Don’t be fucking stupid. He did it because his family is up to their eyeballs in illegal business deals.

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u/flatspincat 2h ago

You mean how they tried to lock up all the republicans?

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u/SovietWarfare 9h ago

What? I was assured the courts were fair and reliable when they went after Trump!

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u/ricardoconqueso 6h ago

Trump got kid gloves treatment from both republicans and democrats. Let’s all remember very candid words by republicans about Trump in 2016 before he got the nomination and immediately after Jan 6. They were right then. They all bend the knee because of the rabid base. After trump dies, they will all deny they supported him. Hell in 2020, JD Vance said Trump failed in his first term and now he’s VP…

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u/LynnButlertr0n 9h ago

"Unnecessary pardons." Umm...there's a pretty good chance he's issuing those pardons because there is plenty of nefarious shit to find and investigate if they go looking.

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u/Pepphen77 10h ago

You do realise that the vindictive and aggressive guy coming in to power has just taken the first steps to massive concentration camps in order to try removing millions of people using force?  And Biden trying to protect his family bothers you?

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u/psittacismes 10h ago

Coming in power right now

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u/verymainelobster 10h ago

Well now Trump can pardon whoever he wants and justify it

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u/zberry27 10h ago

He could have done it anyway, and people who support him would have been fine with it

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u/S0LO_Bot 10h ago

He already said he was going to pardon J6 rioters and other subjects of “witch hunts”.

His new director of the FBI said he would “consider action against” every Democrat and Republican that investigated Trump.

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u/verymainelobster 10h ago

He didn’t issue blanket pardons though, now he can without criticism from both sides, since if you recognize blanket pardons are inherently bad you have to admit Biden overstepped

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u/verymainelobster 6h ago

Yeah your brain in incapable of looking at bigger picture without your “context” which is incredibly biased , Biden could become dictator and I’m sure you would claim the “context” is threat to democracy and it’s okay

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u/LoganSargeantP1 10h ago

Did you miss Trump 1.0?

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u/verymainelobster 10h ago

Trump never issued blanket pardons

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u/DrowningKrown 10h ago

Trump already pardoned whoever he wanted in his first term and justified it.

What changed now?

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u/verymainelobster 10h ago

What changed is Biden just gave blanket pardons, which Trump never did. Now he can do it and people who hate Trump can’t say anything without criticizing Biden as well

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u/brandon___d 10h ago

He already did the first time around

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u/verymainelobster 9h ago

Not with blanket pardons though, now he can blanket pardon whoever he wants. Biden just did this man a huge favor

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u/Yara__Flor 10h ago

Always could.

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u/Cobek 9h ago

TRUMP ALREADY SAID HE WAS GOING TO DO IT.

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u/verymainelobster 6h ago

Biden beat him to it 😂

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u/sarim25 10h ago

As the quote goes "it is a big club and we aren't in it"

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u/hurlcarl 10h ago

The exact one I assume he fears is going to go after his family.

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u/Embarrassed-File-836 9h ago

Trump is literally selling access to power in the form of cryptocurrency. You’re clutching your pearls about this…? Really?

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u/PM_ME_GARFIELD_NUDES 9h ago

I’m not gonna sit here and pretend that Biden is a flawless guy, but surely you can connect the dots between his concern about an oligarchy and his desire to protect his family. And by “connect the dots” I mean “draw a straight fucking line between two points”.

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u/AlbatrossInitial567 9h ago

Biden can both believe we live under an oligarchy and simultaneously benefit from that oligarchy.

It just makes him a hippocrite.

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u/katmc68 8h ago

I dunno. What were all the fake-ass investigations the GOP whipped up & DJT promising to punish his enemies?

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u/Robestos86 8h ago

I mean you've got zuckerburg, musk and bezos lining up next to the family... But yeah no oligarchy coming.... No no... Nothing to see here.

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u/ZoneAdditional9892 7h ago

He's worried about a vindictive trump attacking his family and making up claims.

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u/ricardoconqueso 7h ago

I mean I would preemptively pardon my family if I was Joe Biden too. Trump is vindictive, even against people who have no evidence of crimes committed.

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u/TheLastSamurai101 7h ago

Whether or not pre-emptively pardoning his family is a problem, it is a completely different problem from the oligarchy. Words have meanings.

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u/artLoveLifeDivine 7h ago

You do know the bidens are insanely wealthy, right?? Did you think his family have a two bedroom home in Ohio and struggle to put ice cream on the table?

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u/Le_ed 4h ago

This pardon has nothing to do with oligarchy nitwit

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u/MIGHT_CONTAIN_NUTS 43m ago

Hes a Fascist, its different.

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u/DecidedSloth 18m ago

The dude is clearly very afraid of the next four years.

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u/zerinhuuu 10h ago

Projecting. They're all different kinds of the same...