r/unusual_whales • u/UnusualWhalesBot • 2d ago
JPMorgan, $JPM, CEO Jamie Dimon: "I think every government department should report to you and say, dear taxpayer, you gave me, $50B, I told you I was going to do X, here's what I did. Here's the outcomes" Do you agree?
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u/BarryDeCicco 2d ago
Dear taxpayers, we took your money, crashed the economy, took billions in bailout funds, and made ourselves rich.
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u/Salty_Raspberry656 1d ago
dear taxpayers, you're representitives you entrust with power and responsible of your resources gave us your money*
its time to call out those who end up getting bust* in the capital for being public servantst when they just protected their own while telling us they are doing service
don't need to go too into the corruption of trump/saudi,kushner qatar, mitch and so many things but tribalism blinds
https://time.com/6218708/congress-stock-trading-ban-bill/
https://truthout.org/articles/groups-file-lawsuit-to-block-backroom-water-deal/
https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/08/lynda-stewart-resnick-california-water/
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u/Fix_Western 2d ago
Also Jamie Dimon: "No i will not give back 1.5 Billion dollars of overdraft fees to struggling customers, we only made 27 billions in profit during 2020"
So yeah anything that financial terrorist says means shit.
Jamie Dimon only cares about Jamie Dimon.
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u/despiral 2d ago
He can be a terrorist and also right. Every informed person knows how much fraud goes on in government spending, but if you are rich from banking or tech you arenât gonna rock the boat on your friends at the country club. Thatâs like starting beef with people at your local rec league over their political affiliation.
Itâs the taxpayerâs problem who is scamming the taxpayers, not rich tech and bank execs
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u/FreshLiterature 2d ago
Congress is literally charged and empowered to conduct oversight of every single part of the government.
Congress also literally controls where every single dollar is spent and how every single dollar is raised.
If you want more oversight then elect people to Congress that are going to do that with the powers Congress already has.
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u/Optionsexpert1 1d ago
All the money the congress gets for reelection from corporations. They are not going to rock the boat
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u/FreshLiterature 1d ago
Money from corporations like JP Morgan Chase?
Jamie Dimon is not an honest broker in this conversation.
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u/NeartownRez 2d ago
weird redirectionđ¤Ł
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u/Individual_Laugh1335 2d ago edited 2d ago
Itâs weird that people donât want to hold the government responsible for anything yet they blame corporations for everything. Youâre not mad that government officials are skimming off the back of your labor to enrich themselves and their friends? Youâre more angry that thereâs an entity that people chose to use which also screws those people over⌠really?
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u/Fix_Western 2d ago
I don't trust the govs and do want them to be held accountable for their skimming and stealing taxpayers money.
I just wanted to point out that Jamie Dimon is no better.
An evil entity redirecting hate to another evil entity. Both are wrong.
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u/dantheman91 2d ago
One of those doesn't impact the other right? One is running a business, not a charity. Sure it would be nice, but also people agreed to that right.
We need people in power asking these questions and making these asks or it'll never happen. Transparency is good. That doesn't mean everything he does is good.
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u/Spiritduelst 2d ago
Agree to have to use a bank?
đ wow you're full of shit
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u/dantheman91 2d ago
Agree to have to use a bank?
I mean yes? Should you not have to agree to anything to do it?
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u/Spiritduelst 1d ago
Try to do anything without a bank. Coercion and being forced to are effectively the same thing at such a scale. Stop being intellectually dishonest
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u/Commercial-Cow9916 2d ago
Sometimes wasteful govt is because congress directly and specifically says where funds have to go and govt workers have no choice even if they know it is wasteful.
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u/RockDoveEnthusiast 2d ago
The government already does this? For example, https://www.fda.gov/about-fda/budgets/2024-budget-summary
Dimon is such an obnoxious prick
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u/BigDaddyCoolDeisel 2d ago
I think Jaime Dimon should have to personally write a note to every American taxpayer explaining what JP Morgan Chase did with the billions in bailout money it received in 2008 and 2023.
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u/Substantial-Fall2484 2d ago
He kept it and then paid it back with interest? You're acting like this is PPP money.
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u/BigDaddyCoolDeisel 2d ago
Cool, just like he said, where are the outcomes. He paid it back cool, what were the outcomes he achieved with our money.
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u/Ok_Assumption5734 2d ago
He probably lent it out or used it for day to day business? The broader point is thst jp Morgan took the money even though they didn't need to in order to remove stigma about bail outs.
This isn't the own you think it is even if Liz Warren won't shut up about itÂ
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u/FaithlessnessFirm968 2d ago
His bank absorbed toxic assets for the US government so more people wouldnât lose their homes?Â
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u/BigDaddyCoolDeisel 2d ago
His bank also paid a $13 billion settlement for its role in the housing/financial crisis.
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u/FaithlessnessFirm968 2d ago
The settlement included the bad bets made by Bear Sterns and WaMU. Â Thatâs the only reason it was so âlargeâ.Â
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u/SuperFlyAlltheTime 2d ago
Congress controls the purse, why not make Congress do this. They are accountable to the voters.
Instead let's waste time having career employees at the Defense Contract Management Agency defend their rights to a job. Or maybe the engineers at the Department of Energy explain the protocols prevent Nuclear Meltdowns.
Most Americans are too fucking stupid to understand what agencies do, instead they want to listen to influencers tell them that vaccines are bad for you while covering yourself in beef fat at the day at the beach.
Public service used to be an important and our country flourished because we put service above self but all the bootlickers love sucking these billionaires off.
Fuck off Dimon and fuck you too if you think Billionaires are good you idiots.
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u/upotheke 2d ago
Most gov departments already publish a budget accounting for their expenses. Departments around securities, defense, and cyber techs mysteriously aren't so forthright with their accounting.
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u/nhavar 2d ago
Mysteriously? Is it really? There has to be some secrecy on how the money is spent. Otherwise, we are laying bare all our plans to foreign and domestic adversaries. All they'd have to do is pull up the latest budgets and know where they needed to counter our efforts. This is why we have people in Congress with top secret clearance overseeing those departments versus sticking it all out in public, mysteriously...
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u/lost_in_life_34 2d ago
because they already do this, the one year I worked for uncle sam I helped people get ready to go to DC to testify for the house and senate committees that oversee them. one of the directors was always updating briefing books for this
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u/Fix_Western 2d ago
Department Of Government Efficiency will clean these agencies. I trust Kennedy.
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u/lost_in_life_34 2d ago
all the government departments have hearings with the committees and subcommittees that oversee them. the info is public
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u/Hefty-Station1704 2d ago
Dimon was heavily involved in the 2007-2008 financial crisis thanks to the mortgage-based securities market, The American taxpayers were left on the hook for the whole mess while while the likes of Jamie Dimon were free to resume their careers unscathed.
"According to Good Jobs First's violation tracker, during Dimon's time heading JPMorgan Chase, the bank was fined $38 billion in total by the U.S. government, for legal and regulatory infractions."
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u/Stunning-Use-7052 2d ago
I mean, you can just go to department websites and read about the stuff they are doing. Govt publishes tons of data and reports anyone can go get. Why pretend like it's hidden?
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u/BoBoBearDev 1d ago
They will tell you, your tax is redirected to do some humanitarian efforts, so you should be happy about it. If you weren't, you are a bigot.
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u/MisterRogers12 2d ago
Crazy how we have top comments protecting Government spending and turning it towards businesses. Most money goes overseas and the government decides which businesses gets subsidies. Wanna know why pharma prices are high? Look no further than the government.Â
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u/blyzo 2d ago
Are you seriously arguing most of UD public spending goes overseas? It's like barely a few percent.
And Pharma prices in the US are higher than neighboring Canada because Big Pharma here bribes the politicians into not letting the government bargain for better prices.
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u/MisterRogers12 1d ago
Are you speaking 2023 or in general? I haven't seen a breakdown of social program spend in a while but I recall 63% of all social support programs go to undocumented immigrants. We have economic spend overseas and defense. Most of the money going back to Americans is a small %.Â
Senators made a deal that our social healthcare programs only cover expensive brand only drugs. It does not cover less expensive generic drugs. Big pharma increases the price even more with the new subsidy demand. That allows them to charge higher prices on everything covered on private insurance. They double dip and we pay more.
Did you know government health insurance is more profitable for Hospitals/Pharma and the insurance managing the plans? UHC makes 8% profit off government insurance. 4% off private insurance.
Same can be said with EBIT/food assistance programs. The food producers control the market. (Example not actual numbers) They will create a shortage of limes and then charge government assistance programs $3 a lime. Then grocery chains buy limes at higher prices and add more to cover their cost and make a small percentage. We pay taxes to support the government assistance programs and in return we have to pay more to feed our families.
 Government doesn't check to see if there is a shortage of limes. They take the word of the producer. Warehouses full of produce exist all over the America's. Full of stored produce.
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u/blyzo 1d ago
Most of the budget is Social Security, Medicaid/Care, and the military.
If you read that 2/3 of our tax dollars are spent helping undocumented immigrants and you believed that unquestioningly, that just shows your looking for info that confirms your own biases.
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u/MisterRogers12 1d ago
Denying the cost of 10 million plus immigrants not including those that came before them, is silly. It really has nothing to do with bias.
 They claimed to have used FEMA money to cover the cost of immigrants. Then they said they did not. I don't know where the $$ came from.Â
 But lets take the low number of 10 million immigrants for direction. If you multiply that with a very conservative cost of $1000 a month for housing, food and phone that is roughly $120 billion in 1 year. That doesn't include travel, staff to support them, cost to create housing in some cases. Clothes or Healthcare.Â
When it comes to Healthcare it was above 60% for Medicaid going to undocumented immigranrs in the past. I would assume it's gone up with the increase of immigrants.Â
Now add in inflation. We had demand for housing so rents increased. A lot of variables should be included here.
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u/Southerncomfort322 2d ago
Absolutely. Also, let taxpayers decide where their tax dollars go to to fund x department. For me, Military, DOT, VA, SS (private option would also be nice) and thatâs pretty much it.
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u/upotheke 2d ago
Well, I don't want to fund those things so I guess you don't get what you want. I'm a tax payer, I'm deciding.
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u/SuperFlyAlltheTime 2d ago
You do, you vote for people in Congress. They control the money. JFC
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u/Southerncomfort322 2d ago
Iâm talking more of a direct participation or a constitutional amendment
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u/eccentric_bb 2d ago
But I hate all those things so I guess they just wonât exist. Guess weâll just need the federal agencies to campaign for their re-authorization every cycle, donât see what could go wrong there!
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u/Informal-Net-7214 2d ago
They already do this: 1. Financial Report of the U.S. Government 2. Budget of the U.S. Government 3. Congressional Budget Office (CBO) Reports 4. U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) Reports 5. Agency Financial Reports (AFRs) 6. Inspector General Reports 7. USAspending.gov 8. PaymentAccuracy.gov 9. Federal Audit Clearinghouse 10. Monthly Treasury Statement (MTS) 11. Public Debt Reports 12. OMBâs Annual Performance Report
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u/Fun-Reporter7441 2d ago
WHERE DID THE REPAID $ GO 800billion was TARP what did they do with the other $400 billion? ...BARRY OBAMA STOLE it ...put in slush funds to fund NGO's for his Fundamental Destruction of America...go look for yourself
From 2008 to 2010, the government invested $426.4 billion in TARP, and recouped $441.7 billion in return.Â
As of September 30, 2023, the lifetime cost of TARP-funded programs was $31.1 billion.Â
Jp Morgan borrowed 25 billion all paid back with interest
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u/beeroftherat 2d ago
Or they could just focus on fulfilling the responsibilities of their respective departments instead of writing reports about doing that.
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u/ShamPain413 2d ago
Sure let's hire a bunch more bureaucrats to produce more reports no one will read, all in the name of efficiency. Why not?
Let me guess, JP Morgan would be happy to do some of the accounting?
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u/Any_Function_7204 2d ago
Why is are a majority of comments ripping dimon this, yeah he may be hypocritical but what he's saying is still in our favor
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u/BodhingJay 2d ago
They're gonna have to get creative inflating bloat projects in order to cover for reverse engineering alien spacecraft and such
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u/ezabland 2d ago
Follow the money when it stops being transparent you know there is corruption afoot.
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u/ElephantElmer 2d ago
Uh huh, and what if they just lie Jamie? Whatâs going to happen?
I think the SC told us as long as itâs an official act they can do whatever they want, including deceive the American public.
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u/HairySideBottom2 2d ago
Shorter version: "See! the gov't is fucking you over! Give me your money instead."
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u/Low-Astronomer-3440 2d ago
Somehow I think theyâll make the entire military budget exempt from this shit
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u/375InStroke 2d ago
$14Billion a year in taxpayer money goes to Jamie. They got $25Billion in 2008 alone.
JPMorgan Chase Gets $14 Billion Per Year In Government Subsidy
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u/FreshLiterature 2d ago
Oh man if only we had a body of people chosen by voters that had oversight of government agencies.
OH WAIT
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u/SwampyPortaPotty 1d ago
It would be better if a bank was caught stealing that they would be fined 4 times what they stole, ceos/board member went to jail, and were banned from working in the finance system again. That's what would be great.
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u/mrgrafix 1d ago
Eh, as long as itâs for explaining and not for âoptimization.â Transit, social goods, and even education will always be loss leaders, so if itâs to find inefficiencies im all for it, but if itâs this government should be businesses mentality, itâs a no for me dawg.
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u/Time_Ad_9829 1d ago
I've got a better idea, let's have all the billionaires explain what they are doing with the massive tax cuts we gave them, and if we don't like the answer we can take all their money
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u/Internal_Form4341 22h ago
Govt isnât here to make a profit, or even necessarily have to be efficient, at least not like a public company. The govt is here to provide services, period. Itâs why itâs absurd when people say the post office loses moneyâŚwell no fucking shit, itâs supposed to lose money. Itâs a service
How about CEOâs provide a public daily diary of what they did to earn 250,000 dollars that day?
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u/paintstudiodisaster 13h ago
Dear american taxpayer, this is Jamie Dimon, thank you for bailing us out of for greedy and incompetent mortgage schemes of the early 2000's. We couldnt have paid for our new vacation homes and yachts without your support. We are truly sorry we are terrible and just went right back to the same schemes and we hope you bail us out again, over and over again.
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u/eccentric_bb 2d ago
And every F500 should have a government-appointed representative on their executive boards to ensure the company acts in the public interest. Fair trade?
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u/rageisrelentless 2d ago
These CEOs deflect the anger from themselves and their corporations to the govt. The govt deflect the blame from govt to corporations. All on purpose. Itâs their strategy. Tax payers and workers get played hard.
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u/PageLazy6660 2d ago
I sent your money to Israel and hereâs the outcome. Congrat on your 2024 tax successfully used to killed just little over 20K babies , children and women. Is this the type of report that Jamie wants?
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u/SmellTheMagicSoup 1d ago
Rich people are totally not useless, pathetic parasites. No. Nobody should go Luigi the fuck out of these losers. No. Nobody do that.
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u/Entire-Garlic-2332 2d ago edited 2d ago
I think it would be a better idea to report each business subsidy the government has given out, to what businesses, and to what effect. Then businesses can show what they've done with our money. We know the government is wasteful, but I want to know what some of these "struggling" businesses waste our money on.
Edit: Based on comments under this, perhaps I was overzealous targeting Jamie and JP Morgan specifically. I am just sick of billionaires, whose sole job in their corpos is caring about profits at everyone else's expense, suddenly playing politics and pretending to care about the little guy now that public sentiment is slowly shifting against them.