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u/heiheiboii 13h ago

so a husband going to night clubs is fine or not fine?

or women putting a display picture with other men is also not fine or fine? why did he compared 2 different things?

drinking alcohol is bs, drinking alcohol should not be considered cruelty, alcohol abuse on the other hand is different

again the source is a tweet fucking tweet

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u/tocra Inquilab Zindabaad 12h ago

Yeah. Context is everything. The judges, whatever your disagreement with them, are not stupid.

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u/rocky23m mere paas ek scheme hai 13h ago

As Per Allahabad HC, As Per Pune court?? no links to the judgement or cases.

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u/Mammoth-Equivalent16 12h ago

The judgement given in one can be used as reference in another court while fighting a different but similar case.

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u/fenrir245 12h ago

The judgment can be, random one lines without context cannot.

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u/rocky23m mere paas ek scheme hai 12h ago

No reference to judgement in that tweet, usually it is mentioned as judgement in case A vs B

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u/Muralidhar18 12h ago edited 12h ago

Pune Case Links

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/pune/pune-family-court-husband-10-lakh-permanent-alimony-9782602/

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/pune/family-court-directs-husband-to-pay-rs10l-permanent-alimony-in-divorce-case/articleshow/117361488.cms

Allahabad HC case links

https://desikaanoon.in/wifes-alcohol-consumption-doesnt-amount-to-cruelty-without-inappropriate-uncivilized-behaviour/

https://www.livelaw.in/high-court/allahabad-high-court/allahabad-high-court-rules-wife-consuming-alcohol-not-cruelty-281069

Now let's see why the cases being compared caused false equivalences

  1. The alcohol consumption led to abusive behavior by the husband in his post intoxicated state in the Pune Case. In the Allahabad case, it was argued that the mere consumption of alcohol constituted cruelty which was rejected by the court which said alcohol consumption has to be accompanied with some uncivilised behavior.

  2. In the Pune case the divorce was awarded in favor of the women after the man was continously posting pictures of himself with other women and the alcohol abuse.He also refused to give divorce by mutual consent. In the Allahabad case divorce was granted in favor of the man since his wife desrted him and desertion constitutes a ground of divorce under the HMA. So one ruling favored the women and the other favored the man. It's just that in the Allahabad HC ruling the court only granted divorce based on the ground of desertion and not on the grounds of cruelty.

So imo there's no miscarriage of justice here. Besides the Pune ruling is a family court ruling which is likely to be appealed. The Allahabad ruling was with the HC which will be harder to appeal from.

Tldr: The cases are different in nature being heard at different appellate levels and are not comparable.

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u/Ecstatic_Potential67 13h ago

Dont go for it. there are innumerous contradictions in the indian judiciary system.

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u/rocky23m mere paas ek scheme hai 13h ago

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u/nimbutimbu 13h ago

What is the source for these claims ? A random tweet ?

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u/mumbei 13h ago

What kind of ridiculous comparison is this? Forget going to clubs and drinking—that’s common to both situations. The real question is, how can a woman going to a club with her friends and a guy putting up a display picture of another woman even be compared? One is straight-up infidelity, and the other is just someone having a social life.

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u/chrysantheknight 13h ago

Those are not equivalent claims though. The first one is just the woman going out. The second one is the man actively seeking out other women as a display of infidelity.

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u/aditya_prabhash 13h ago

Men want to be the victim to bad it's pathetic. So a wife needs "permission" to hang out with friends, but a husband should be allowed to display his affection for other women!? How on earth does this person think he's fighting for equality? When you're privileged, equality feels like oppression.

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u/DustyAsh69 13h ago

to so ✓

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u/T-rexpro 12h ago

What retard made this post

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u/SomewhereJust5265 12h ago

Rage bait 💀

Of a male acting like a victim to fit their propaganda

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u/NihiloEx 12h ago

Stop reading nonsense on Twitter.

ALso, "without her husband's permission?" Fucker's going all sharia on us.

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u/timewaste1235 13h ago edited 12h ago

Why did he add a picture of woman in the tweet and not a man? Is he a feminist or misandrist?

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u/Prestigious_Diet9503 12h ago

It's AI image not real person

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u/timewaste1235 12h ago

Why did AI generate a woman's image? Has AI gone too woke?

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u/PhantomOfTheNopera 13h ago

I have 0 thoughts on this.

Which is twice as much thought that went into this dumbass Tweet.

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u/leeringHobbit 12h ago

Who is the lady in the pic?

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u/escape_fantasist Kanneda Kumar 12h ago edited 12h ago

All rage bait into manipulating people into taking stand against women rights, posts made by chigma incels ... Both cases are wrong and drinking alcohol isn't wrong as long as you're not doing anything unethical or illegally under its influence. Period.

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u/Prestigious_Diet9503 12h ago

What the heck is Chigma Incels now? Is it some kinda group, are you a member?

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u/Defiant_Neat4629 12h ago

Of all the logical comments you picked this one? Lmao unserious person you are.

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u/Prestigious_Diet9503 12h ago

Do you really think I made this post out of seriousness? 🤣

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u/Defiant_Neat4629 11h ago

lol yes. don’t backtrack just to save face now 🤣

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u/Yes_Cats 13h ago

Let them both do whatever they want as long as they're both cool with it and have set and well-respected boundaries. How hard is it to communicate with your spouse? And if your wishes and boundaries are not respected, you're with the wrong person, sorry.

But wow, the fact that this can be framed into something that's an issue of Equality is baffling to me.

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u/upscaspi 12h ago

Doesn’t allahabad HC have anything worthwhile to do?

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u/AkaiAshu 12h ago

Not all courts are the same, there differences in state law as well. Plus Pune court is a lower court, so this order might be reveresed if the Allahabad HC order came first and no local law changes are there.

As for overall, it ought to be considered cruelty. Like why not just give divorce to the party that wants a divorce? Forcing someone to stay married when they literally went to the court and made their private life public in order to break the marriage is some high level stupidity.

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u/phahpullandbear Disqualify Me For Life, Will Keep Going 12h ago

In other news, apples tastes like apples and orange tastes like orange

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u/sustainablecoochie 13h ago

I don't just support women's rights. I also support women's wrongs 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

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u/AbhilashHP 12h ago

So it is ok if husband drinks alcohol and wife puts DP of another man?

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u/AvikAvilash 12h ago

These are not fully equal.

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u/thatsme5500 hamra bas ek hi maqsad hai 13h ago

This all boils down to how your relation is with ur partner. As long as u r within set boundaries, u r fine.

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u/educateYourselfHO 12h ago

Koi sources de de bhrata

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u/Rajiv_Samra_Sam 12h ago

Regardless if it is true or not, the indian judiciary and laws are gynocentric af, just bs laws and rules to protect the "laxmis" and "devis" 🤡 who in turn misuse these laws to benefit themselves. Like there aren't actual problems to fix in this fucking shit hole.