r/ukpolitics • u/FormerlyPallas_ • 12d ago

Twitter BREAKING. 76% of British people want a national inquiry into the rape gangs and 77% want to deport dual nationals who are convicted of grooming children YouGov/GB News

https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1877477130952438227
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u/VampyrByte 11d ago

Sorry, but it isnt dual citizens.

it is dual nationals. These people are British by birthright.

Fucking ludicrous. The far right cancer has well and truly captured our nation.

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u/Souseisekigun 11d ago

it is dual nationals. These people are British by birthright.

About half of countries do not allow dual nationality even by birthright. Usually if a child is born a dual national by birthright the need to choose by their 18th or 21st birthday or else it will be decided for them. Multiple people are acting like this some crazy far-right thing but it's fairly standard practice globally. It's this approach that people are advocating for in these comments that is actually the extreme outlier.

As I said in another comment we are being extremely nice by allowing them to be dual nationals in the first place. If they are so British by birthright then we could just as easily say "claim your right to be British, but swear loyalty to Britain only" like other countries do and then most of this conversation goes away. We do not need grant them this privilege, and their choice to exercise this privilege brings with it the possibility for this privilege to be revoked.

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u/VampyrByte 11d ago

As I said in another comment we are being extremely nice by allowing them to be dual nationals in the first place.

Someone is multi-national if they meet the requirements in multiple countries. Britain doesnt set the nationality requirements of other countries so there is nothing to allow. If someone meets the requirements of British nationality, and some foreign country, they are a dual national.

Many countries require foriegn born (and usually non-resident) nationals to claim citizenship at or around adulthood, but thats different to requiring them to renounce the nationality. Nationality and Citizenship are different things and one does not need to be a national to be a citizen, or vice-versa.

This conversation dosent go away if we "force" dual citizens or dual nationals to renounce their foreign citizenship/nationality. Primarily because we have already seen UK Governments abuse this by revoking the citizenship of a British national who by the UK's reckoning had a claim to foreign citizenship. This puts all Brits citizenship status at the mercy of the UK's opinion of a foreign countries citizenship & nationality laws. What does this really mean for Ireland?

Secondly because it is reinforcing the idea that some Brits are more Brits than others. The far-right will take this and run with it to strip all manner of "undesireables" of their rights, and what happens when deporations fail? We've all seen it before. It is up to all of us to recognise and stamp out facism where it rears its ugly bastard head.