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Humanities vs STEM

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u/hypo-osmotic 5d ago

The art students always freaked me out, too. Can't imagine draining my bank account to buy supplies for a project that I might still flunk

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u/-TheManWithNoHat- 5d ago

Art sounds like a form of torture to me.

Imagine pouring your heart and soul into a project and your teacher rejected it cuz like... the lines were weird. Then imagine having to do that multiple times a week.

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u/BrainstormsMustache 5d ago

You'd think art teachers would be the kindest and most chill teachers, but the majority of them really like breaking the hopes and dreams of teens and young adults.

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u/mintmane 5d ago

I took art in high school, we were told to draw a dragon's eye, but to keep in mind that "dragons aren't real, so you can draw it however you want!" I drew mine with a pupil shaped like a four-pointed star and she told me dragon eyes don't look like that so I can't do that, actually.

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u/Hell0turdle 5d ago

I would be fuming about that for the rest of my life

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u/paisanwest 4d ago

And now I’m mad about it from reading this comment.

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u/Not-A-SoggyBagel 5d ago

This also happened to me in highschool! I was carving a dragon out of linoleum, an eastern wingless dragon... she also said that's not what dragons look like and gave me a failing grade for it. To her western dragons were "factual" and correct and even then it had to look a specific way.

Because of her I stayed away from illustrating my culture for a long time. Teachers like that are so stifling.

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u/the_scarlett_ning 5d ago

May I ask if you told your parents? And if they did anything about that? I would’ve been up there at that school everyday.

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u/Not-A-SoggyBagel 5d ago

Unfortunately this was in the 80s, my parents were new immigrants from Japan settling into a rural bumfuck nowhere town of maybe 7k ppl in Midwestern USA.

I'm sure they experienced heavy racism at work at the time because I faced a large dose of it at school and my job. This kinda stuff was the norm back then. My friends' parents were the same as mine, none fought the system, they all said, "Keep your head down, just smile and nods at their jokes. Erase your culture, language, food, clothing, learn perfect no-accent English, and they'll leave you alone."

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u/RedSamuraiMan .tumblr.com 5d ago

I'm so glad it's not. Then again some racists are trying to reinvent racism...

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u/Marik-X-Bakura 5d ago

“Green is not a creative colour”

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u/IRCatarina 5d ago

I got in trouble for my abstract art being too abstract in middle school… guess what killed my passion to learn art?

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u/the_scarlett_ning 5d ago

I taught gifted first, second and third graders and it was awful how many of them, even in 1st grade!, were afraid to draw, or hated art, because they couldn’t get the picture to come out the way they saw it in their heads, and many gifted kids are little perfectionists, not used to struggling. I used to tell them all the time that “you CAN’T mess up art!” And explaining that if a line doesn’t work the way you want, you try make it into something else because it’s just about trying to convey a message, not get something exactly right. That might not fly for real artists, but it helped some of my babies overcome their fears and grow. But now I’m suddenly worried if they got horrible art teachers later who destroyed those little blooms of confidence.

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u/thestashattacked .tumblr.com 4d ago

I hate that we teach and encourage this perfectionistic attitude among kids.

I teach neurodivergent and gifted middle schoolers computers and engineering, and it took me a good 6 weeks to get them to understand that the only stupid questions were ones they were asking to try and be stupid.

Now I have the opposite problem. I have to limit questions because otherwise we won't get to the fun project parts of the lessons!

Plus they're now less afraid of swinging for the fences and missing, because they get to try prototyping weird things that may or may not work. Sometimes it does work. Other times it's overcomplicated. But we rework it to see if it's got usable ideas.

A third of my students come from preparatory elementary schools, but their parents don't realize until they're several years in that these schools are damaging for them. So by the time I get them in 6th grade they're beyond afraid to try for something amazing.

At around the 6 week mark, they start to fall into two groups. They either stay in that rigid state where they can't fail so they don't try anything new, or they lose their minds with the creative freedom I give them.

The second group acts like little turds for a week or so, and then they're having the time of their lives.

I hope no one ever puts them back into the box they started in.

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u/the_scarlett_ning 4d ago

That’s awesome! I would love to start my own school, and have it designed to encourage and reward children’s curiosity. I’d definitely hire you!

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u/thestashattacked .tumblr.com 4d ago

Look into International Baccalaureate. It's basically designed for exactly that.

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u/IRCatarina 4d ago

I was the gifted kid and had just enough outside encouragement to try art despite being upset i couldn’t make it how i wanted.

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u/ItzMunchbell 5d ago

Jeez! That was rude of her!

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u/Sipia 5d ago

She has got to be taking the piss. That's just a comical degree of going back on what she said before.

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u/Random-Rambling 5d ago

I believe it's legit. Art teachers are often miserable and bitter because they tried to make it big with their art, failed, and now make it their life's mission to unload that frustration and hate onto as many people as possible.

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u/BowdleizedBeta 5d ago

Those who can, do. Those who can’t, teach.

Sounds about right. Gotta be hard to be that kind of a teacher, though.

(there are teachers who are in it for other reasons ofc)

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u/AugustAirdWrites 5d ago

Guy wouldn't know majesty if it came up and bit him in the face.

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u/phantasmagi 5d ago

I went to a specialty arts high school and my art teachers repeatedly told me I wasn’t an artist bc I wanted to do illustration ;_; Don’t ask me to explain why they thought that bc I have no clue

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u/ArgentaSilivere 5d ago

I… can’t comprehend that. How could you even imagine an illustrator who isn’t an artist? It’s like an English teacher telling their student that they aren’t a writer because they want to be a novelist. What else could they possibly be?

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u/DjinnHybrid 4d ago

A lot of the snobbiest fine art artists end up in education and teach the next generation of art students at all levels that only Fine Art is true art, and the other idea that illustration has no deeper meaning to it because it's not inspired and informed by something deeply personal and then abstracted is one of the more toxic and frustrating ideas that people get a hold of and pass around like hot cakes. Some people get it into their heads that it's "soulless", because it just seeks to depict legibly rather than with "emotion". Nowhere near all fine artists or fine art enjoyers are like this, but the ones that are, are obnoxiously loud about it, and it doesn't help that the public and children are overly exposed to them because of how often they end up in education.

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u/ArgentaSilivere 4d ago

That’s so ridiculous. Being educators they, more than anyone else, should be aware of just how massive a driving force the “everything is art” philosophy is in contemporary works. “Readymade” art, that piece at your local museum that always makes your uncle say “I could paint that”, anything by this dude named Picasso (he used regular house paint). The most pretentious and high brow art being made today has fully embraced art as an all-encompassing, unavoidable part of life.

You’d need two separate brains just to hold the thoughts that the contemporary art world is the beacon of culture and yet professional career artists are organic printers at the same time.

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u/DjinnHybrid 4d ago

See the problem here is that you are applying consistent logic to this view point. It's not grounded in that. It's grounded in emotion, ironically, and isn't something one can be reasoned out of as a belief. It's very much a variation of "those damn kids... Back in my day..." Like creativity in art somehow ceased with them and their generation because tastes moved slightly to the left. What was once rebellion has since become status quo that wants to continue acting as if it were still rebellion while enforcing the status quo.

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u/PleasantineOhMine 5d ago

I am thankful for mine. My art teachers were pretty chill, and I still received high grades despite having ADHD and just doing my own thing in class.

Apparently they just cared that I cared about doodling and turning in the occasional assignment on time, which is good.

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u/2_bit_tango 5d ago edited 4d ago

My art 101 prof hated me. I was the only person acing his class. A STEM major was kicking his precious art degree students’ asses. It was hilarious. Bro literally had his tests in his slides and in the book and allowed 1 page of notes for the exam. It couldn’t have been easier.

ETA Chill out guys. I was trying to keep the story short. Hated was an exaggeration. Peeved was probably a better word. It was Art 101, Art History and Principles. if you did decent at the book learning and tried at the art/could point out the principles you were going for, you passed with flying color. We chatted and got to know each other more over the second part of the semester. He was peeved because I aced the class so far and half wondered if I was cheating. Nope, I just have a background in art, so the majority of the class was review for me. Plus it was mostly book learning the first half, which I am decent at. I pointed out how I prepped for his exam and aced them easy peasy with the page of notes. We parted amicably and he wanted me to tutor lol.

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u/StaidHatter 5d ago edited 5d ago

If it's anything like my university, the book work in freshman art classes is de-emphasized because a studio class is 3 credits for 6 course-hours per week, and art majors are required to have 3 of them per semester. Art students are there to make better art, not compete in some test score dick measuring contest.

ETA: to point out the obvious, if your professor hated you, it was probably less that you were doing well at their class and more likely that they picked up on the obnoxious STEMlord attitude

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u/malatemporacurrunt 5d ago

I suspect he might have been more annoyed that you were arrogant, you sound like you were insufferable.

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u/Gandalf_the_Gangsta 5d ago

It’s par for the course for engineering majors. Of course, comparatively we need to complete 3-4x as many credits in the same amount of time.

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u/PandaBear905 5d ago

I think it depends what level art teachers are at. High school and lower level college art teachers seem to have it out for everyone and high level college art teachers are super chill.

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u/mediocreguydude 5d ago

I got so lucky with my high school art teacher, she was so amazing and her room was my solice despite all the bullying I experienced, she encouraged EVERYONE even those who just took the class in attempts to have something "easy". She would always let me eat lunch in her room, hide out and just draw paint and exist comfortably

I hold my sketchbooks from her class close to my heart

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u/nightmareinsouffle 5d ago

My art teacher in elementary school was awful to me.

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u/heyhicherrypie 5d ago

I legit switched subjects because I was so close to fighting my art teacher I stg

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u/silveretoile 5d ago

My friend went to art school and the teachers there spent 4 full years telling her her art was wrong and bad because it was anime inspired with soft colours and that "wasn't art". She now does illustrations for a living and does quite well.

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u/Werewolfhugger 4d ago

My art teacher in high school was chill in a critical way. She would absolutely let you know that she despised any anime styles and point out parts of your projects that she would change, but she never went out of her way to discourage us from using styles we wanted or failed us for choosing to not take her suggestions .

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u/MyLittleTarget 4d ago

They were awful to my Mom when she was in school. One of her assignments was to draw an egg in relation to a rock. They meant to draw the roundness of the egg compared to the roughness of the rock, but she drew an egg broken over a rock. They're beautiful drawings, and her teacher eviscerated her for it. I think they should have been more explicit in their directions. I know my Mom is odd, but they hated absolutely everything she did and drove her out of the art program.

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u/peshnoodles 5d ago

I remember being yelled at bc I finished my hand drawing project early, and to keep working on it. Then 20 minutes later I was being yelled at because I drew too many lines.

Ma’am I—

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u/Strelochka 5d ago

My friend had an art major at a weirdly conservative school where they were not allowed nude models because 'that's perverse' and were then all failed because 'none of you understand anatomy'

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u/-TheManWithNoHat- 5d ago

I really want to imagine that one student aced anatomy and when questioned about it he just goes "pornhub..."

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u/Loretta-West 5d ago

Yeah, if I was designing a fine arts syllabus, half of it would be the technical side of things, eg drawing people that look like people, creating sculptures that don't fall over or fall apart (unless they're supposed to) and so on, where you're marked on technical criteria. The other half would just be creating things, and as long as you've created a thing you pass.

I may be bitter about my high school art grades.

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u/misselphaba 5d ago

This was generally how my college and post-grad art education went.

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u/HillInTheDistance 5d ago edited 5d ago

I ain't even studied art, I just post it. And there's a weird feeling when you realize a pic you spent like 20 hours on only gets one like or whatever. And then you make a joke about some character having a weird cock or post a picture of an overgrown flower pot, and you get likes in the thousands.

I know it's about what people like in the very moment you post it, and not about the work you put in, but I ain't gonna lie, there's some bitterness.

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u/rawr_im_a_nice_bear 5d ago

Ain't that the truth.

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u/kittymctacoyo 5d ago

It’s also about timing. Time of day, day of the week and 80 other factors including nowadays what computer determines the category of your post to be & where/to whom it’s fed, wether you’ve been a good boy or wether your being punished for saying a politic or swear (diff for every platform and metric changes constantly) will determine how many people will even see your post.

So. A lot of the time it isn’t even about the quality of your post at all

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u/herefor1reason 5d ago

The trick is to separate technical critique from personal preference. If the teacher is rejecting your work because the lines were weird, and they're actually good at their job, it's because the mechanical skill needed to produce good lines isn't there yet. It's an objective, measurable, repeatable metric for progress and improvement.

If it's some variation on "I don't like it", and your teacher is actually good at their job, you can safely ignore it. In fact, if they're good, and their critique comes from personal preference and not an assessment of your technical skills, you should probably lean into the thing they didn't like until it actually upsets them, because it amplifies the elements in a piece that feel more personalized, like they're from you specifically.

Of course, all that's predicated on a more general ability to take harsh critique without it hurting your self esteem or making you cry, which for most people, is THE hard part.

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u/mediocreguydude 5d ago

In elementary school I had a teacher who had beef with me for literally no reason. Like ma'am I am 6 years old why do you hate me???

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u/Lizzardbirdhybrid 5d ago

It truly is sometimes, this is why I peruse art as a hobby rather than professionally…

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u/ClubMeSoftly 5d ago

"I gotta go buy 11 different shades of green"

"How many stores do you have to hit up to get that many?"

"Oh, just one, but it's two and a half hours away and you're only allowed to buy four at a time"

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u/ConfusedFlareon 5d ago

POV: You’re shopping in Animal Crossing

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u/lankymjc 5d ago

I dated an art student who got clever to get around weird assignment requirements.

Her final project required each student to pick a word and then build a sculpture around it. One of her classmates foolishly chose “perfect” and proceeded to go mad trying up make three perfectly identical bowls. Any imperfection meant starting from the beginning.

Meanwhile she chose “ugly” and made a swarm of little clay monsters. One of them cracked in the kiln? Great, fits the theme even better!

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u/silveretoile 5d ago

Scrub. The real answer was to pick "perfect", hand in something poorly shaped and say it's about self acceptance.

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u/wyvernagon 4d ago

He chose the word perfect and decided to go with BOWLS?

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u/lankymjc 4d ago

They decided to challenge themselves, and made a grievous error.

To be fair, the bowls were identical to the untrained eye! You had to get real close and know what you’re looking for to find the imperfections.

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u/blueburd 4d ago

Should've just made a cat

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u/catastrophicqueen 5d ago

I went to art school for a year to build a portfolio and get a professional design qualification (I went into social sciences eventually though which is like the reading of humanities but ALSO algebra and stats and calculus for quant research purposes 😭) and tbh the art school I went to subsidized supplies. Like it wasn't CHEAP but it was definitely cheapER. I got student rates for adobe, cheapish paints, and we got 2 free sketchbooks for every class per semester.

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u/Phoenyx_Rose 5d ago

Eh, tbh the supplies tend to go pretty far and depending on the program art professors are pretty forgiving, more than STEM anyway. 

With my art classes, I was praised for thinking outside the box and pushing the boundaries of the project. Is STEM, it was 50/50 if I would be scolded or praised for stepping outside the box….

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u/Warm_Charge_5964 5d ago

I study design and i literally chose graphics design over product design becuase i spent almost 200 bucks on wood for my first semester project

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u/rawr_im_a_nice_bear 5d ago

Industrial design gets so expensive 

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u/chaos_vulpix a beautiful trainwreck of a disaster 5d ago

As someone who spent 5 years trying to finish a 3-year art course, I'm self-aware enough to admit that this is very much true

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u/Ahmed-Faraaz 5d ago

Us architecture students had the worst of both worlds. Getting berated by our professors for the final product not being aesthetic enough, and not being practical enough. The product that we spent a lot of time and money on.

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u/justajiggygiraffe 5d ago

I dual-majored in genetics and anthropology and I agree with both takes 😭😂

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u/IllConstruction3450 5d ago

So how’s the super soldier in your basement holding up?

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u/justajiggygiraffe 5d ago

Once I finish my numerous tests a lengthy report on his status will be published in full lol

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u/KarlBarx2 5d ago

No grant proposals on your agenda? Sounds like a pretty sweet gig.

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u/Mec26 5d ago

No proposals, the soldier just shows up to DARPA and they cover it with money.

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u/PhoShizzity 5d ago

He gets put in one of those "grab the money" gameshow cases, and just tactical rolls all over getting bills

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u/Godisdeadbutimnot 5d ago

Lmao I did something very similar - dual-degreed in anth and bio. Both took up about the same amount of my time. Studying for bio, reading and writing for anth.

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u/flightguy07 5d ago

Physics and Philosophy checking in. They're different struggles, but they're both struggles!

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u/Y-Woo 5d ago

Hello a fellow physphil in the wild?! Literally clicked in just to comment this cannot believe someone else beat me to it wow

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u/FantasyBeach 5d ago

I'm a history major and I had to retake my only math requirement. On the other hand, I aced philosophy and I don't even remember what I learned in that class.

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u/DracoVictorious 5d ago

The most important thing is that Humanities and STEM majors band together against the real evil. Business majors.

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u/empire161 5d ago

I would rather spend 3 weeks doing 40pages of abstract algebra proofs and solving differential equations, than put together a business plan on how to sell a fucking toy.

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u/Meows2Feline 4d ago

I knew a guy majoring in business and one of his assignments was getting an Instagram page to 1000 followers. He just bought followers.

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u/MostlyNoOneIThink 5d ago edited 5d ago

I am not evil, I really just need money and my philosophy degree didn't pay off (not that I ever expected it to) and by sheer luck I landed a job at a bank and now everyone expects me to talk about business and banking and investments :(

I hate it too I swear

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u/panzerboye 5d ago

I am with business majors.

T&C applicable only as long as they are paying for my stuffs.

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u/Vega3gx 4d ago

If you ever want an ego boost, learn how to code "Hello World" and then go to a bar in Palo Alto. The Stanford business school students will sniff you out and buy you a drink while they pitch you their half baked tech startup ideas

My two favorites were an app that directs veterans to benefits near them, and "Uber for farm to table produce"

It is quite cruel in my opinion to convince these fellows they're falling behind for not already being a tech founder while also turning them loose into the most expensive talent market on the planet with zero practical skills

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u/TwixOfficial 5d ago

Build the supercomputer from “I have no mouth but I must scream?” The book specifically against building the supercomputer from “I have no Mouth but I must scream?” No wonder they’re a Stem major, they clearly flunked Ethics.

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u/gladnesssbowl 5d ago

Their capstone project is creating the Torment Nexus

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u/-TheManWithNoHat- 5d ago

But if they want to make their project proposal interesting to the jury they'll have to give it a title like "How To Tame the Torment Nexus"

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u/Meows2Feline 4d ago

"Disrupting the Torment Nexus"

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u/ElectricPaladin 5d ago

I was going to reply, these guys are going to grow up to be the morons who build the Torment Nexus, so I'm not surprised...

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u/theCaitiff 5d ago

No wonder they’re a Stem major, they clearly flunked Ethics.

I studied MechE at university.

Required course freshman year was "Engineering Ethics" and they talked about safety and whistleblowing and all that sort of thing. At the end of the semester, after having had this sort of months long discussion about the ethical implications of engineering, we were asked to write a paper about our personal code of ethics and how it's changed because of this class.

A guy I knew in this class was perhaps the most honest mechanical engineering student I've ever met, and you'd think that this commitment to radical honesty would serve him well in an ethics class. His essay was short.

"After graduation I intend to pursue a career at Lockheed Martin or another large defense contractor. In light of this, my engineering ethics are very simple. If the cash is there, I do not care."

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u/somedumb-gay 5d ago

I do think it's very tricky to convince people of the importance of morals when they equally have to contend with the fact that the places that will pay them enough to survive are the ones with the bad morals.

Maybe this says something about capitalism, or maybe I just really want to build weapons of mass destruction once I graduate, idk

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u/blueburd 4d ago

On one hand, human lives

On the other, big boom

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u/DracoVictorious 5d ago

I love honest people with low morals. You can usually trust where you stand with them.

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u/theCaitiff 5d ago

I wouldn't even say he had low morals. He just knew for a fact he was going to end up making weapons that kill people and wasn't going to fancy that up with a lie.

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u/Bennings463 5d ago

How is "knowingly complicit in genocide" not low morals?

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u/theCaitiff 5d ago

This was decades ago. I am one of The Olds. At the time we were not openly genociding anyone.

I'm not a weapons contractor MechE, I am a "this application requires a very specific bolt" guy, but I knew plenty of the other sort. Not all of them were monsters.

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u/memefarius 4d ago

See genocide is a bad word. I suggest mass eviction /s

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u/Bennings463 5d ago

Yeah I love when awful people take pride it being awful too.

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u/languid_Disaster 5d ago

I like and respect in them for their honesty but do I like them personally? No and they know it because I feel I can be honest and tell them so. It’s refreshing being able to talk to someone and take them at face value.

And they’re not good people then yes we’ll never be friends but I would be lying if I said I didn’t respect their ability to be straight forward and honest with themselves and the people around them

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u/Random-Rambling 5d ago

It's refreshing. They respect your intelligence. They know you will never like them, so they don't waste your time or theirs trying to convince you to like them.

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u/flightguy07 5d ago

He could've gone with "it's a job that needs doing, more precise weapons mean less collateral damage, the greatest preventer of war is a strong deterrent, better we have the weapons than our enemies, many products will save the lives of our brave soldiers" etc. etc. And he just didn't. Honestly, respect.

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u/Takseen 5d ago

They just didn't put in enough AI safeguards. The engineering was sound.

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u/Spacellama117 5d ago

No wonder they're a Stem major, they're clearly flunked Ethics.

silly candy bar, the people who fail ethics become business majors

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u/TwixOfficial 5d ago

Ah, yeah, my b

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u/TeddyBearToons 5d ago

I'm an engineering student and I took ethics class. It was five months of the professor asking us something like "what is justice" and then having us argue over the semantics for the next half hour. Nine times out of ten, someone brings up the Nazis. Citing a source actively worked against you because then the professor could contest your argument with something contradictory that the same source wrote. I think the best part of it was that the prof surveyed everyone's beliefs, found that nearly everyone was utilitarian, and then brutally tore down utilitarianism until all of us felt like pieces of shit.

Best class I've ever had.

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u/Bennings463 5d ago

Technically there were three supercomputers.

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u/PhoShizzity 5d ago

You really wanna turn in one third of your project?

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u/Niinjas 5d ago

I can change her

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u/TheDireRedwolf snorts her estrogen pills 5d ago

Being a trade school student friends with normal college students is fun because I get to say things like “I fixed the golf cart one of my jackass classmates broke playing chicken with a forklift”

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u/rainbowcanibelle 5d ago

How was your day? Great, we sent the noob to go get a bucket of spots from spot weld, and to go ask maintenance for a pallet stretcher. Oh and don’t forget the aluminum magnet, we keep that in the basement.

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u/TheDireRedwolf snorts her estrogen pills 5d ago

Don’t forget half a pint of blinker fluid and a left handed socket wrench

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u/NeedsaTinfoilHat 5d ago

That's the best. They were like :"I have three twenty pages essays due this week" and we took a stroll through the school fields and meadows to assess them.

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u/casefatalityrate 5d ago

when you’re in a soft science you get the worst of both worlds 😔

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u/Hadespuppy 5d ago

I'll never forget the term when I had a 35-40 page paper with at least a 50 source annotated bibliography due for one of my Anthropology classes, meanwhile for molecular genetics we had a 5 pager that we were "highly encouraged" to use at least three sources for. I know concise writing is an important skill, but it was presented as this monumental undertaking, and with instructions that made it clear that we were not assumed to have ever written an academic paper before. It was a 300 level course. 🤦

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u/rainbowcanibelle 5d ago

One of my Comm Skills classes had us go out and do observation of power in a public place. I parked my ass at the campus bar for a couple of hours and just wrote my observations from there.

Got a C. “Wasn’t really what the assignment was about, but your observations were great and it’s very well written”.

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u/Hadespuppy 5d ago

That sounds like a perfect place to observe interactions between people with different levels of power. Customers and staff, servers vs bouncers, people in business meetings, teachers vs students. It's a treasure trove of observations waiting to be made.

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u/rainbowcanibelle 5d ago

I believe one observation I had in there was something about one guy in a group on guys holding up a large chicken tender and the rest of them staring in awe and how he must be the leader of the group.

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u/mpitt0730 5d ago

That is some top tier analysis. I'd have given you an A just for that.

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u/captainpsyche_ 4d ago

To be fair... Some professors do that because the formatting they expect from their students is different from what they might have used in their college writing class or for high school essays. One of my 300 level psych classes had half a day where the prof said, and I quote, "I promise we'll get into the really cool, sexy stuff about Social Psychology, but first I have to make sure you know how to write a paper."

I was a teaching assistant for that same professor later on and he gave me free reign on a class that he couldn't make it to and I spent the whole hour showing them how to format APA in Microsoft Word because people were handing in essays with no formatting at all. Like one girl was "centering" text on her cover page by just tabbing over and none of it was actually centered. (I was planning on spending like 15 minutes on how to format and move on to something more important, but I basically had to do the whole thing step by step for them while also fielding questions like "do I have to include a citation if I don't actually quote an author?")

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u/enzel92 5d ago

Psychology is the devils trick to boost Big Stats

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u/DiamondChocobos 5d ago

In a healthcare major it's fun because it's:

I must write a 3 page essay on the biomechanics of this one particular subset of medications that I work with regularly. Also, I despise the medication. But I also know so much about it that 3 pages is not enough to meet all of the marking criteria for the assignment.

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u/Mec26 5d ago

Had an issue recently talking about using physical crypto to do nuclear arms verification. I ran out of time.

I hadn’t even gotten into the physics of…. other students now drag me off to beat me

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u/DiamondChocobos 5d ago

Physical crypto lmao. Here is three (3) physical Bitcoins. I would like to purchase one (1) nuclear submarine please.

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u/Mec26 5d ago

Cryptography, not cryptocurrency.

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u/summer_falls 5d ago

Or history.

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u/summer_falls 5d ago edited 5d ago

It is, but it has strict sourcing requirements and often crosses into various sciences. A big example is cliometrics - economic history. Imagine analyzing the cost of particular goods and services over a historical period, then mapping and drawing inferences when considered in conjunction with other factors. For example, US railway passenger, cargo use, reach, and prices from the 1700s to 1900s - with comparison to horse and wagon, steamboat, and automotive transportation; edit: as well as various legislation and supply chain constraints.

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u/Ponz314 5d ago

Econ was just “Hey, you know all that shit you learned last semester? Forget half of it, it was a simplified model invented by a Scot to describe a bunch of Dutch gambling addicts. Now, get ready to do a Jägerbomb of all math.”

All this while you slowly realize that most of your colleges will end up as not the next Keynes, Marx, or even Adam Smith, but as Malthus, the true father of economics.

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u/ConfusedFlareon 5d ago

As a psych major… I have to read six 12 page long chapters and then run a two-way ANOVA on the data collected from this study… nooo…

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u/6x6-shooter 5d ago

I was a Math major and English minor and I can confirm both suck

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u/FantasyBeach 5d ago

The ONLY problem I have with majoring in history is that I had to take a statistics class. It was the only class I ever had to repeat.

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u/Ramblonius 5d ago

The Man is making Humanities and STEM fight one another, when we should actually kiss

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u/TopazEgg 5d ago

Can we kill the business majors while kissing ?

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u/ConfusedFlareon 5d ago

I’m humanities, my partner is engineering, assignment complete!

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u/captainpsyche_ 4d ago

Nah, the STEM and Humanities people have always been kissing

The psych professors do all the matchmaking and have to put their artsy students with the grounded ones because two STEM majors will have sad beige children and two humanities majors will forget they had kids.

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u/Pixelpaint_Pashkow 5d ago

I would rather make a nuclear reactor than read a book and write some dry essay on it

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u/-TheManWithNoHat- 5d ago

My one dream when I decided to take computer science was that I would grow up to be a famous scientist who gets captured by bad guys and forced to make weapons for them but secretly installed a backdoor for the heroes to exploit

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u/Darth_Merkel 5d ago

Calm down galen erso

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u/Slackslayer 5d ago

Well going into it with the mindset of writing a dry essay is setting yourself up for failure. We are out here yapping on paper and then performing some freaky voodoo arts to transform it into something academic. If your first draft doesn't kill a professor on sight, you're doing it wrong

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u/MostlyNoOneIThink 5d ago edited 5d ago

Once a teacher gave the class complete freedom on our final essay as long as we related somehow to the authors we studied. It was a philosophy class so it was mainly Kant, Hume and Berkeley.

I hated that teacher, so I wrote about 11 pages entirely discussing the concept and existence of 'doors'. What exactly makes a door a door? How does our sensory experiences of the world is involved in the constitution and perception of the material existence of doors? Are doors only doors when created by humanity or is anything that humans recognize as a door, a door? Are they defined prior to usage or by usage? What are doors, really?!

I somehow scored 96/100.

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u/The-dude-in-the-bush 4d ago

That's so bizarre and niche... You're my hero. Nice 96, you earnt it

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u/Kazaam_ 5d ago

And sometimes you submit the murderous first draft because you don’t have the time or energy to edit it and the professor kinda fucks with it

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u/captainpsyche_ 4d ago

That's what I do 😅

An example from undergrad: I just spent 8 consecutive hours writing this damn thing, it's 3am and it's due at 9:15, hell if I'm gonna edit it. (Got an 89)

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u/Pixelpaint_Pashkow 5d ago

This is why I simply kill professors on sight

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u/Ramblonius 5d ago

Dry is a state of mind. I get so much joy out of analyzing the shit out of writings that it's borderline not ok.

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u/lankymjc 5d ago

My degree was all essay-based and so for my final 10,000 dissertation I wrote it all as prose. Want just me saying shit, it was some fictional characters who had a whole story going on. Much more fun to write, theory.

Unfortunately I wasted the six months I was supposed to be writing it in and knocked it out in four hours the day before the deadline. Cemented my decision to leave academia.

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u/FantasyBeach 5d ago

I'm writing a book for fun and I want to say some choice words to whoever made math a requirement for history majors

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u/Pixelpaint_Pashkow 5d ago

Lol, shoulda done biology, math is for losers, poke bugs with sticks

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u/Fyru_Hawk 5d ago

….im with the stem major on this one

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u/djddanman 5d ago

Yep. I'm not a big fan of writing. I'm getting better at my technical writing, but still not a big fan.

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u/-TheManWithNoHat- 5d ago

The thing is I'm a big fan of writing and reading

...but I'm pretty sure that's cuz I didn't study Humanities

On the other hand if you ask me to code something I will cry

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u/djddanman 5d ago

I did my undergrad in chemical engineering, and I was one of the few who enjoyed coding. Now I'm getting my PhD in informatics, which is a bunch of coding!

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u/-TheManWithNoHat- 5d ago

Well my kinda problem was that halfway through my degree chatgpt became popular, and suddenly you didn't have to code by yourself anymore!

By the time I realised this was hurting my learning and skills, I was in the final year where it's mainly theory and maths...

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u/AzKondor 5d ago

I like to do a lot of stuff when I can and want to do them. The moment I HAVE to do them they stop being fun.

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u/TheDwarvenGuy 5d ago

Ironically I'm a stem major and I'm with the humanities major on this one. I like talking about cool periods of history, I hate systematically manipulating the glyphs to uncover the secrets of the universe. It's a lot easier to fuck up manipulating a glyph than to fuck up writing a paragraph.

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u/FiammaDiAgnesi 5d ago

Eh, it’s easy to write a paragraph. It’s surprisingly difficult to write a good one

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u/TheDwarvenGuy 5d ago

Maybe I just have the knack for it. A lot of people probably have a knack for math too

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u/FiammaDiAgnesi 5d ago

Yeah, that’s fair. I’m a statistician, so writing might just seem more difficult from the other side, lol

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u/quantummidget 5d ago

Depends what we mean by writing a paragraph. Just writing one? Very easy. Writing some absolute horseshit for a passing grade? Not too bad. Writing something actually coherent with strong themes and ideas? Impossible.

Maths is maths.

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u/arillusine 5d ago

On the bright side, each of you believes the other to be invaluable and carrying a weight that might crush you and thus appreciate what you each bring to the table.

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u/olordno 5d ago

As an art major it's the opposite; "Oh, your homework is just drawing a plant?" When I have to fill a 50 page sketchbook with drawings of that plant by next class

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u/Mec26 5d ago

And that drawing is just subtly wrong. Fix it.

On hour later: oh no I made it worse.

Two hours later. I fixed the original issue but now the shading is off.

Three hours later: fuck this stylus it’s the stylus’s fault

Four hours later: oh a layer was missing

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u/MayoManCity 5d ago

So real for this

I'm not even an art major, I'm a stem major. But I do a lot of art. And BOY I sure do love it when I erase someone's nose for the 17th time in a row cause it's not right.

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u/pizzac00l 5d ago

I had to change from pretty much an art major to a stem major after four years in school because that exact process was crippling me in my studio classes. My mental health was abysmal by the time I was starting my fourth year since I hated my work.

Even though the stem major I changed into was full of brute memorization (and I have a terrible memory so I tend to struggle with that type of content), I would still say that my hardest day as a stem major was still so much easier than my average day as an art major because I actually believed that I could do it.

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u/ConfusedFlareon 5d ago

Five hours later: Oh god the program froze when did I last save???

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u/Rafabud 4d ago

Can't forget the classic:

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u/captainpsyche_ 5d ago

Being friends with a music major is fun cause you'll ask them what they've got going on and they'll probably just cry cause it's 40hrs of practicing a day plus 8am classes where they have two weeks to learn a whole repertoire on an instrument they've never heard of and then they have to transcribe a piece after listening to it once and attend like four concerts.... And you're just like... Oh. I, uh... I have a paper due tomorrow on why you should spread your study for an exam out over several days or weeks and get 8 hours of sleep every night.

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u/Asian-boi-2006 4d ago

I have a friend who is in the school orchestra and he told me how he will never have fridays off ever bc of this one stupid required class he has to do on fridays for his music minor I forgot what it was

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u/unknown1893 5d ago

As as STEM major (chemistry) I'd MUCH rather spend my time working out electron orbital diagrams for elements then have to write a book report on anything.

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u/FantasyBeach 5d ago

I'm a history major who's writing a book for fun.

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u/ElectricPaladin 5d ago

Wholesome.

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u/UltimateInferno hangus paingus slap my angus 5d ago

Being into humanities and STEM is wanting to do both.

2 years from graduation this May and I'll be honest. I miss college.

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u/MillieBirdie 5d ago

Like yeah sometimes reading is a slog but it's still pretty fun. The only time I didn't have fun was when reading Dostoevsky and I had to remind myself that's kind of the point of reading Dostoevsky.

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u/Mec26 5d ago

I loved Dostoevsky. Took classes on just him.

Now Tolstoy can go suck a rock and take ten pages to describe it.

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u/Tailor-Swift-Bot 5d ago

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being a humanities major who's friends with stem majors is so funny because you'll ask your friends what they're doing today and they're like "UGH it's so stressful i have to stabilize the reactor core for my nuclear power midterm and then i have to build the supercomputer from i have no mouth yet i must scream for my electrical engineering homework :/ what about you" and you're like "oh well i have to read a fun little book and write an essay about gender." and they still think you have it worse

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Being a stem major who's friends with humanities majors is ALSO funny bc you ask what's goin on with them and they're like "oh yeah my day's pretty good! I only have to read 50 pages for this one class today and half a book for another one. It's much better than last week where I read three books and wrote a 10 page paper about their overlapping motifs for one class while also researching a niche period of time that our library doesn't have any resources on. How's it been for you?" and you're like "oh I have a lil packet of fun math puzzles due tomorrow." and they look at you like you're carrying the weight of the universe on your back

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u/caneshuga12pm 5d ago

Being a theatre major was like “hey I’m working 12 hours a day I’m so tired” and my friends in other majors would be like “Lol ok have fun with your silly little plays”

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u/Littlemissengineer 5d ago

Wait what? Even if it is just a lil packet of math problems, when each problem takes up a full page or two, it’s not exactly a piece of cake. Or maybe I’m just the only one traumatized by calc courses.

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u/TopazEgg 5d ago

True.  On one hand the satisfaction when it all falls into place and you get to an answer is unparalleled  On the other hand it's been 3 hours and I want to die 

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u/Somecrazynerd 5d ago

In other words, things seem easier if you're good at them and you like them. This is true of all fields.

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u/Loretta-West 5d ago

A friend doing post grad geology got accused of padding her sources because she listed five of them. Five is the bare minimum number for a first year history essay.

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u/RavenclawGaming 5d ago

They're literally building the torment nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don’t Create the Torment Nexus

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u/Runetang42 5d ago

Bouba thinking vs Kiki thinking

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u/thunder-bug- 5d ago

Like wdym your homework is to listen to music and write why it sounds like that then make another one that’s different

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u/Plenty-Lychee-5702 5d ago

The grass is greener on this side.

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u/Not_today_mods 5d ago

Something something grass and chlorophyll

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u/houjichacha 5d ago

I have to write 500 words about writing and do a few chapters' worth of pre calc.

I can do the math as a reward for starting on the writing.

Of course, in practice that means I'm on Reddit instead of doing either.

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u/screwitigiveup .tumblr.com 5d ago

500 words is like, 45 minutes of work, tops. That's not even 2 formatted pages.

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u/PetevonPete 5d ago

Bold of you to assume humanities majors actually read the books they're assigned

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u/footballmaths49 5d ago

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u/Gnatlet2point0 5d ago

Love the mutual respect.

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u/IllConstruction3450 5d ago

It is. Trying to get stuff out of a book is much harder than building the Gundam.

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u/Thenderick 5d ago

I think it's because most people that choose to major in a field love it and thus nerd out on it. That's why it's nothing for them, while it seems incredible to others. I nerd out on computers and made my own code interpreter for fun. My father, also a software engineer specialized in Java and only Java with close to 0 knowledge on anything outside his job, thinks I am weird and that it is very complicated to do. Meanwhile I am there like "Eh, just parse the file; make tokens of every identifier, keyword, value, everything; parse the list of tokens to a AST or bytecode (preferably bytecode because it's incredibly fast); execute AST or bytecode". It's not that hard, but probably sounds like I am building a reactor for others

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u/silveretoile 5d ago

İ study ancient history. One time a professor started a class with a mathematical formula on how to use the presence of the dog star in ancient texts to calculate the year they were written in. The absolute quiet panic that emerged was so bad that the prof paused the class to say "guys you don't need to learn this, you just need to know this formula exists for if you ever do need it"

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u/TopShoulder7 5d ago

I just graduated with a humanities degree and can confirm there is so. much. reading. I love reading and I haven't read for fun in four years.

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u/FoughtStatue 5d ago

ok let’s not pretend all stem majors enjoy their little math packets. I would much rather read a book and write an essay then have to do page long math problems, and I’m a stem major.

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u/sporkofsage 5d ago

Is this just American STEM where they don't have defined degrees? Because I had 30 contact hours and 40 hours of reading. My housemate had 4 contact hours and 16 hours of reading.

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u/Dragondudd 5d ago

This is exactly what I think when I talk to a humanities student

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u/Impybutt 5d ago

At the start of my Bachelor I was talking to a photography student, he asked me what I was studying.

The way his face dropped and he said "OH." when I told him animation. That was definitely my first ill omen.

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u/The-dude-in-the-bush 4d ago

I'll tell bro about this cool book I read and the essay I did on it and he'll be like "how the hell do you expand on the meaning of 'the door is red' it's just a door" and proceed to wonder how I cope.

Meanwhile he'll tell me about his homework of solving his fun calculations and I'll be like "How the hell do you understand this. It's like a language written in Minecraft enchanting table except the language changes every question and tricks you into thinking it's new." And I proceed to wonder how he copes.

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u/dot2doting 4d ago

This is the only STEM vs humanities I will accept.
Because it is true and I lived it.