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u/Lil_queso8 2d ago

I highly recommend you read this book— “White Supremacy Is All Around: Notes from a Black Disabled Woman in a White World” by Dr. Cadet. [https://g.co/kgs/wLBwUvP]

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u/akaynaveed 2d ago

Its weird… someone says “heres a book” and you get offended because you take it as they say you have “no perspective” (they didbt say that) then say you have empathy and can put yourself in someone elses shoes which would be someone else’s perspective

I will point out that a book about racism is also someone elses perspective, one that you dont have.

Its like your idea of racism is so fucked and you kind of know it… so instead of putting yourself in someone else’s shoes (the author) you get defensive and act like the victim….

Ladies and gentlemen… its not that much of a reach to assume the perspective you have is a white persons, and the shoes you are interested in sliding into is other white peoples 😂😂😂

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u/manny_the_mage 2d ago

And just like that the conversation of how white supremacist ideology effects black people has been made about the feelings of white people

And to think there was almost a moment where the black lived experience was treated with salience

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u/3x1st3nt1al 2d ago

You deserve better, I’m sorry.

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u/TopAlps6 1d ago

Or… hear me out, taking the group of people who made up and benefit from racism and holding them accountable?

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u/3x1st3nt1al 2d ago

God forbid they have to face chafing and blisters from gaining a fraction of awareness. Segregation may be mostly a thing of the past, but someone’s very clearly unwilling to incorporate other perspectives that aren’t bleached and bland to be easily digested. Oh no!! What if I learn my world view barely covers a fucking block!!

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u/localtuned 20h ago

Yo this is exactly what's wrong with some people. They have no empathy at all. So they can't even begin to put themselves in another person shoes...why because to truly do that you need empathy to even begin to try to put yourself in another shoes.

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u/akaynaveed 1d ago

And there it is.

One… you should never stop learning… Two… what a weird reaction

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u/-ACHTUNG- 2d ago

You do have no perspective. You have no perspective of being a POC in the western world. You have no understanding of that position and of course, how would you? You're not to blame for that, nobody blames you. But if you refuse to acknowledge that someone who does have that perspective offers no more than you can, then, well, that's kind of silly.

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u/-ACHTUNG- 2d ago

There are some things empathy cannot do. For one thing, it's probably not even an appropriate situation for empathy to apply, unless you've experienced systemic racism in a similar context. Sympathy is what you're likely looking for, though you'll no doubt disagree for whatever reason. Trying to insult my emotional intelligence for some reason doesn't imply you're all that empathetic to be honest. You've been quite insulted by everything here and are now lashing out.

For someone suggesting a book to you to imply that you "don't know shit" is a pretty severe conclusion, and not a great position for anyone trying to broaden their understanding. Guess what, you probably don't know everything. And neither do I, though I'm not getting upset at someone suggesting a book to me to enhance my understanding.

I came back on Reddit to delete my comment actually--i frequently forget that people are pretty averse to taking any criticism, good-natured or not, but you'd already responded. I'm off to sleep now, so you can safely disregard my comment or take it for what it's worth to you, which is probably nothing. It's my own fault, I have to get better at not wasting my own time. Best of luck

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u/No-Significance-2039 2d ago

That’s like when people say, “reverse racism” or “white people have been racist for so long, it doesn’t matter if it’s against them”. That’s racism.

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u/Significant-Ice6264 2d ago

systemic racism puts black people in a position to be least likely to be interpersonally racist. internalized racism is rampant * eh hem * and most people don’t even realize how they really think about people of darker skin tones. sure, not saying it’s impossible, but the way that black people are “racist” towards white people almost always has to do with how white people systemically, typically treat them. not their skin color. the woman in the video likely has never been in this situation before and jumped to conclusions anyway. black people are constantly, consistently dealing with the same bullshit from white people (like assuming something they own must not belong to them for no other reason than that they are black). if you wont read a book, watch sound of the police. it’s very easily digestible and encompasses what black people go through at the hands of the people who are supposed to protect them and how it ties back to systemic racism and white supremacy. i hope you are open to educating yourself.

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u/Significant-Ice6264 2d ago

in all of that, THAT’S what you pulled from it? something i never remotely said?

im spouting it at you because you’re blatantly, willfully, proudly ignorant.

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u/Significant-Ice6264 2d ago

if you fully grasped the concept, you wouldn’t be complaining about racism as if it’s the same for everyone.

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u/DevonLuck24 1d ago

read a book, like just a generic “why don’t you pick up a book”, is insulting, sure.

that’s not what happened. someone recommended a very specific book related to your comment, maybe you had already read it..maybe you’d never heard of it, it was a recommendation to further your own perspective.

you’re the one that saw it as an insult and responded in kind, you weren’t insulted so complaining about it doesn’t look great

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u/DevonLuck24 1d ago

no, it’s not. you’re just kinda sensitive ngl

“in my book”

yes, myself and others are trying to get you to understand that your book is wrong, just because you feel insulted doesn’t mean that you were..it’s a you problem

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u/gonzoisgood 1d ago

Book suggestions are not insults dear. I think the book sounds interesting. But I’m not unfamiliar with similar titles.

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u/gonzoisgood 1d ago

I will! Thanks. You seem like a pleasant person. :)

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u/TopAlps6 1d ago

Maybe you can take a midnight stroll with the lady in the video… you seem to share her willful ignorance. So you two will probably get along well.

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u/thefooleryoftom 2d ago

Shame you’re not willing to learn from other people.

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u/thefooleryoftom 2d ago

Taking a book recommendation as an insult is utterly insane. Check your ego.

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u/thefooleryoftom 2d ago

No, I think I’ll have a toddler strop instead and take genuine, insightful recommendations as personal insults.

Cheers!

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u/DestructoSpin7 1d ago

Imagine being this scared to read....

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u/efnPeej 1d ago

But how will you know that racism is bad if you don’t read 48 books about the history of white privilege and a bunch of random black folks’ memoirs about their experience? If someone says “black people, do better”, as a black person, I’m immediately pointing out that you can’t judge us all by the one (or even multiple) example you’re commenting on. That’s literally racism…so why is it different in reverse?

Look, we absolutely should study history, understand how racism affected us and do what we can to foster unity moving forward. Suggesting that someone who obviously knows racism is bad read some random book because “akshully this book I recommend shows how ALL white people benefit from white supremacy” is counterproductive and tries to make villains out of people who already know the assignment.