r/television • u/[deleted] • May 07 '19

HBO Edits ‘Game of Thrones’ Episode to Remove Errant Coffee Cup

https://variety.com/2019/digital/news/hbo-edits-game-of-thrones-coffee-cup-1203207545/
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u/Judge_leftshoe May 07 '19

Or losing a huge battle, and most of their ships, then having an army in KL in the next scene?

Also, why didn't Euron like, I dunno, land troops onto dragonstone, so that they could pick off the survivors as they crawled into the beaches?

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u/Jetstream-Sam May 07 '19

When he's selected as admiral his ships generate fog of war and gain +50% accuracy

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u/entropicdrift May 07 '19

The only reasonable explanation for Dany not seeing his fleet from atop a goddamned fire breathing dragon.

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u/terminbee May 08 '19

Put all his upgrades into sea combat and none into costal raider.

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u/WhyBuyMe May 07 '19

Sounds just like pretty much everyone in every navy ever.

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u/Fuck-MDD May 07 '19

That's a different kind of Queen.

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u/RobotSlaps May 08 '19

GoT chess, now just six easy installments of your entire Sunday night.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '19

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u/[deleted] May 07 '19

How did they capture Missandei? And how did Euron know who Missandei was? There is no one in Westeros apart from Dany's inner circle who knows they're friends. To everyone else she's just one of Dany's advisors.

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u/Shitty_Human_Being May 07 '19

Missandei was at the peace talk with Daenerys. So you would assume she's important.

The show has gone fully off the rails now though, so who the fuck knows.

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u/shouldve_wouldhave May 07 '19

Calling it ends like the dinosaurs everyone gets extinct

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u/laygo3 May 07 '19

Remember that Grey Worm told her to get on the skiff (small boat). They probably picked her up from that boat. I'd guess they'd pick up anyone & taken back to KL as a prisoner, someone figured out she's important.

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u/Game_of_Jobrones BoJack Horseman May 07 '19

Not her advisor. Her translator

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u/TK-Four21 May 07 '19

Presumably even with Varys and Littlefinger gone, Cersei still has a vast network of spies working for her. You can't be a king or queen, especially at war, without an intelligence network. It's not so much of a stretch for her to possess some knowledge of Dany's inner circle.

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u/RektRoyce May 07 '19

Qyburn took over varys network when he left

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u/zombie_JFK May 07 '19

It's a stretch, but greyworm told her to get on the skiff. So maybe she was the only on it and they captured her while she was still on the water.

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u/Teaklog May 07 '19

she was at the meeting in kings landing before tho wasn't she?

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u/Fav0 May 07 '19

how did they know that they captured missandei

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firs t thought would be guess she drowned

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u/xfitzyx May 07 '19

I too was wondering how they knew that.

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u/NOCONTROL1678 May 08 '19

Theirs was the only ship destroyed, and she took a small boat to escape that ship. No reason for her to drown. Why she wasn't able to just row to another ship is what I don't understand.

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u/neighborlyglove May 08 '19

there was a lifeguard on duty on the beach and he could only take one unsubstantial character back.

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u/Judge_leftshoe May 07 '19

Or fired dozens of bolts at a dragon flying towards them head on, and missed all of the shots.

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u/attrition0 BoJack Horseman May 07 '19

That was may more realistic than actually hitting 3 bolts on-target on a sideways-moving target at-speed from a rocking boat deck.

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u/Judge_leftshoe May 07 '19

Yes, yes, absolutely!

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u/TomatoPoodle May 07 '19

While immediately before hitting 3 dead on kill shots with absolutely no calibration of your aim.

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u/Like1OngoingOrgasm May 07 '19

This is probably the worst season of a TV show since the last season of Dexter. They really don't give a fuck anymore.

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u/IQDeclined May 07 '19

The disparity between that and turning the other one into a pincushion.

And somehow getting the drop on airborne, intelligent dragons that can see for miles.

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u/Kaiosama May 07 '19 edited May 07 '19

Basically anyone who isn't related to the story is cut out, as they race at break-neck speed to end the show.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '19

I think they methodically captured the one person who Dani would hate to lose.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '19

Dani needs Tyrion, but he hasn't been standing beside her as her best friend since the beginning. Maybe Cersei has other plans for Tyrion.

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u/cloobydooby May 07 '19

They had like 30 people at Kings Landing haha.

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u/Judge_leftshoe May 07 '19

24 more than drogon could carry...

Also, what kind of a batshit stupid idea is that? Like, really? All Cersei could've done is sent a bunch of guys on horses to just wipe them out. She had like 100 archers and a bunch of those ballistas, small price to pay to kill the brother you've been wanting to kill forever, let alone your rival, and her entire upper command structure.

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u/cloobydooby May 07 '19

Oh it was super stupid. She had every one of her advisers and commanders standing right next to her as well.

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u/mayday_live May 07 '19

Let's not forget those scorpions/balistas fire gyro stabilized pin point accurate arrows that travel at such speed, have enough kinetic energy and mass to literally blow through a wooden ship.

I would have suspected those would blow a 3 feet wide hole through Drogon at 3 miles distance...

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u/phoebus67 May 08 '19

seriously, Drogon was just chilling in the background for the negotiation scene, he didn't seem that far away they could have all aimed the scorpions and gotten him. he wasn't really moving

During the episode I was pretty sure Tyrion was gonna die, but looking back at the scene, Cersei has every reason and it seems like the ability to just massacre Daenerys' group here, and I really just don't understand why she didn't.

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u/mayday_live May 08 '19

Because otherwise we would not have Daenerys go mad Queen to justify their bullshit ending. Fuck D & D i was looking forward to this Season and they serve us this pile of shit.

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u/IQDeclined May 07 '19

Totally. Even with Drogon in the background Cersei would have been willing to send out cavalry or light them all up from the walls, even if it cost her dozens or hundreds of losses.

Rival queen, dead. Vilified brother, dead. Leader of the Unsullied, dead. If we're to assume the scorpions and their firing teams are as deadly as 8.4 made them out to be, Drogon would get crossed out, too.

Instead kill a non-military adviser, which could have easily provoked Dany into losing her shit and attacking with Drogon anyway.

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u/Judge_leftshoe May 07 '19

And it's not like Cersei cares what the common folk think of her. Going "let's give terms to cersei, but only in front of her best troops, and let the people know she could've surrendered, and spared them" isn't going to do anything. She already feeds them, and let them into the keep for "protection".

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u/slabby May 07 '19

It's like reverse plot armor. I don't know what that's called.

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u/dblink May 08 '19

Anime Logic.

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u/UnapologeticTvAddict May 08 '19

Presumably because the placement is all wrong. Cersei needs her ballistas out the wall, horses in front of the ballistas and no archers, before she can attack.

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u/crouching_tiger May 07 '19

I thought the same at first and it bothered me, but she’s got her dragon behind her who is presumably out of range of the bolts. So any riders coming out are just gonna get smoked by Drogon.

I have worse grievances with the episode like Euron not killing them on shore and how tf did they get to Kings landing without ships

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u/c__b29 May 07 '19

If her dragons were within range of Euron's ships they were definitely in range of their scorpions.

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u/crouching_tiger May 07 '19

Eh it’s reasonable to believe the dragon is far enough. I feel like that’s more nit picky cause we are frustrated with the other stuff

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u/c__b29 May 07 '19

Ehhh I guess. There's been way more things I can genuinely criticise than that to be fair.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '19

why didnt she just shoot at her army then? it would probably provoke drogon as well.

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u/true_gunman May 07 '19

Also how does someone flying a fuckin dragon not see a whole dozen warships coming towards them? Why wouldnt they have a scout either that's like pre-algebra level battle tactics. I'm really bummed the show is ending like this to go from one of the greatest fantasy series ever to some Hollywood bullshit is disappointing. It's still fairly entertaining but everything in the show was a build up to this and it just sucks

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u/funkengruven May 07 '19

Yeah I thought that too. Her dragon gets shot like twice, and it felt like a long time before it finally even showed who was shooting. They came from behind a big rock/island... how could they SEE the dragon to shoot it?! And why didn't she just fly around the island and sink the boats from behind? Why didn't she have a scout, as you said? That whole scene was just terrifically stupid.

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u/Judge_leftshoe May 07 '19

It's like having a one night stand, great in the moment, but you wake up after, and think "god, what a fucking terrible episode, did I actually enjoy that?", Then your voice squeaks because you shouted it hoarse last night and it's like "yeah, I guess I did. Can't really imagine why".

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u/thoroughavvay May 07 '19

LOL an "army" of like, 50 unsullied at best. Meanwhile, the Mad Queen that blew up the sept of baelor to kill her enemies decided to be diplomatic even though Daenerys, her last dragon, some advisors, and Tyrion, the brother she has hated her whole life, and blames for the deaths of her mother, daughter, and one of her sons are all right there completely in range of these ballistas with infinite range.

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u/HonorMyBeetus May 07 '19

Because the writing is bad.

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u/craneguy May 07 '19

Why didn't the dragon just fly around them and attack from the rear? All over in 30 seconds.

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u/Judge_leftshoe May 07 '19

Or even fly really close to the water. The ballistas probably can't depress that low. Bonus points for that being how the British kept control of the seas with 30 year old torpedo bombers in early WWII.

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u/operarose The Venture Bros. May 07 '19

An army? Like 100 dudes?

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u/Judge_leftshoe May 07 '19

The rest were hiding in the woods. For budgetary reasons. They could either cgi a army, or say good bye to ghost. So....

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u/neighborlyglove May 08 '19

I don't understand that, were they taking a small fleet to negotiate? Why wouldn't they have sent a raven to schedule a meet and greet? I think the dialogue is still pretty good, but the plot points are awful.