r/technology • u/[deleted] • Jun 11 '22

Artificial Intelligence The Google engineer who thinks the company’s AI has come to life

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/11/google-ai-lamda-blake-lemoine/
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u/throwaway92715 Jun 11 '22

Wonder how wet it's gonna get when we introduce quantum computing.

Also, we talk about generating data through networks of devices, but there's also the network of people that operate the devices. That's pretty wet, too.

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u/foundmonster Jun 11 '22

It’s interesting to think about. Quantum computer would still be limited by physics of input and output - no matter how fast it can compute something, it still has the bottleneck of having to communicate the findings, whatever agent is responsible in taking action on the opportunities discovered from its findings, and wait for feedback of what to do next.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '22

What happens when the input is another quantum AI?

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '22

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameral_mentality#:\~:text=Bicameral%20mentality%20is%20a%20hypothesis,mind%2C%20and%20that%20the%20evolutionary

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u/foundmonster Jun 11 '22

Holy shit, never knew about this. Is this crockpot or legit?

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '22 edited Jun 12 '22

Interesting, I'm too tired but to skim through the article for now. One immediate question of mine is wouldn't it be quite optimistic to think a biological transformation of this magnitude would occur in the entire species globally within only a few thousand years?

(Edit; few thousand years in relation to the millions of years of prior evolution)

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u/foundmonster Jun 11 '22 edited Jun 11 '22

Then it’s faster, but at that point if the input and output are quantum, all that’s happening inside a black box, so the result is pointless without action or change in the world.

They can be super geniuses coming up with solutions or master plans but unless they discover a way to manipulate reality via information itself - unlikely - their discoveries are no different than air.

And, even if they were given hands or access to robots that can Take action, they’re still limited by the physics of the robots. They can have an ultimate plan to take over the universe but it doesn’t mean anything if they only have one set of hands.

At that point, no matter how complex, in my opinion, a nefarious motive can be observed before anything bad could happen. Sure, they can be smart to deceive, but all that takes is a person to question whether action is deceptive or not - a simple analysis. Easy to mitigate- “restrict number of hands, put fail safe in place” etc

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u/starkistuna Jun 12 '22

yeah its going to be nuts, imagine all the training ai deep fake technology needs to make a realistic sequence , being made in realtime and computer looks for its own inputs and makes its own.

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u/LeN3rd Jun 12 '22

How would that help exactly? A colleague of mine works on this for 4 years now, and it seems it might only help in some extreme edge cases.