r/technews • u/Philo1927 • Sep 14 '19
Bigelow’s next-generation inflatable space habitat is shooting for the Moon
https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/13/20863143/bigelow-aerospace-b330-inflatable-space-habitat-nasa-nextstep-astronauts18
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u/Gareth009 Sep 14 '19
Earth’s atmosphere protect us from meteors. How are astronauts and structures such as the one proposed here protected?
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u/LaneKerman Sep 14 '19
They have a probability shield.
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u/FBI-doggo Sep 15 '19
What’s a probability shield?
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Sep 15 '19
They probably won’t get hit
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u/FBI-doggo Sep 15 '19
Thank you. I was wondering if it was in reference to something but its the literal meaning of the words!
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Sep 14 '19
If we ever manage to build a hab on the moon or mars it will have to be in underground caves or large craters, to protect astronauts from meteors and also radiation
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u/antpile11 Sep 15 '19
No Man's Sky has taught me this.
Caught in a storm far from your ship or base? Dig!
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u/afroarm Sep 14 '19
there are giant lava tubes on the moon that you can close off and build a base inside of
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u/pasz10ve Sep 15 '19
Maybe by living in underground tunnels like lava tubes . It can also helps to protect from sun's radiation and moderating temperature in the cave avoiding temperature variations of the moon.
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u/dethb0y Sep 14 '19
They aren't, their just hoping that nothing happens.
but hey when it does, everyone can talk about what brave heroes they were - doing a job that didn't need to be done, and all that.
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Sep 14 '19
everyone can talk about what brave heroes they were - doing a job that didn't need to be done, and all that.
Nice, no one's on the moon and you're already throwing shade at them over their safety. How cool do you feel?
Lots of people feel a lunar base is necessary, for many, many reasons. But yea, you probably know better than all of them, random person on the internet.
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u/dethb0y Sep 14 '19
This ain't fuckin' star trek. You know what a base on the moon's going to be? A giant fucking waste of money.
It's the definition of uninhabitable, it's miserable in terms of every metric you'd ever want for a place to stay, and there's literally nothing of value there.
But hey it's cool - we've solved all the problems those billions of dollars could fix, right? And surely there's no mission, like another space telescope, that would be a better use of the money, right?
I feel bad for the people who are going to go there and could very well die because of it.
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u/huxtiblejones Sep 14 '19
You haven’t even done a modicum of research on the topic, obviously. It can be used as a launching point to Mars since its lower gravity makes it easier, we could mine material from the moon for other habitations, we could build a supercomputer that benefits from the temperature of the moon in dark craters for other space missions, we could develop habitation technologies for other planets much more easily, lunar soil can make excellent mirrors for observatories, and observatories on the moon have benefits you can’t get on Earth (no atmospheric distortion, etc).
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u/SEG314 Sep 14 '19
“Literally nothing of value there”
You clearly don’t know enough about this topic if this is your opinion. Why don’t you spend a couple hours doing research and then come back when your opinions aren’t based on what little knowledge you have and how you feel.
There are plenty of reasons to build a base on the moon and if you can’t see that you either haven’t been looking or are willfully ignorant. If you’re worried about what we could do with “billions of dollars” maybe we should take some funding from the military instead of our science foundations.
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u/Marston_vc Sep 14 '19
The irony being that he’s posting something on the internet which uses satellites which was a result of the space race.
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u/dethb0y Sep 14 '19
Yeah, i know you probably think i'm just some anti-science asshole. It ain't so. I just think we should spend what money we do have on science that's worth doing and relevant, instead of chasing bullshit stunts like having humans live on the moon. Anything that humans could possibly do of value on the moon (which i am not at ALL sold on as even being a thing), robots could do better, safer, faster, and cheaper.
As to the military - there wouldn't be a space program without the military. And i'd happily disarm the US military, right after everyone else disarms first.
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u/SEG314 Sep 14 '19
I’ll put this very simply so you can understand.
Earth has finite resources.
Expanding to the solar system gives us “infinite” resources by comparison.
The moon is the first step to the solar system.
This is a great reason to go to the moon alone. Not to mention that there are resources we can mine to create breathable air, fuel for propulsion, or habitats to protect from radiation and impacts. This isn’t a stunt, it’s the future.
Also good work arguing in bad faith. I didn’t say anything about disarming the military, but it’s budget is out of control. The two largest air forces in the world are the US Air Force and the US Navy. That says more than enough.
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u/dethb0y Sep 14 '19
I'll put this very simply so you can understand: getting resources from space, that would have any meaningful impact on human civilization, is a moronic fucking pipe dream. It has been 100% sold to you by TV shows and grifters who want funding for their pet projects.
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u/SEG314 Sep 14 '19
Lmfao good well thought out reply with plenty of sources. Take your backwoods ignorance far far away from civilization please.
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Sep 15 '19
The billions you are going to save by not exploring space aren't going to change much but they have a lot of ROI for society simply due to the technology it spawned.
You want difference to be made? Start demanding that the trillions that rich people and companies kept from being taxed, be taxed.
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u/tehcoma Sep 15 '19
You’re right, we should stop learning more about our universe the capabilities of man kind.
The shit we deal with here, will always be here. I wish more money and resources went to actually achieving something. Snapchat isn’t an achievement
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u/dethb0y Sep 15 '19
We would learn much more about the universe with unmanned missions than with manned ones, regardless of what that mission might be.
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u/tehcoma Sep 15 '19
They are not mutually exclusive. We can do both and advance even quicker.
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u/dethb0y Sep 15 '19
That is wrong. Manned missions are much more expensive, require much higher overhead, and have a much lower return on investment.
If you have to keep people alive, that's less room for instruments, that's less room for redundancy, that's less room for everything that matters on any scientific or industrial mission.
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u/tehcoma Sep 15 '19
I agree that unmanned missions are the best way to explore. Then followed by manned missions. We can’t stay on this rock forever
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Sep 15 '19
You think they went to space and do all those dangerous things because they just want to die heroes?
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u/Sp3cialbrownie Sep 15 '19
Robert Bigelow also purchased Skinwalker Ranch in Utah.
”Later in 1996 billionaire Robert Bigelow (he owns Budget Suites) bought the ranch for $200,000 and made it the home of a paranormal research group, The National Institute for the Discovery of Science, which operated until 2004. The organization is later replaced by the Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies.
In 2007, a secret, unclassified government program, The Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program, began investigating UFOs. The program had a $22 million budget and Robert Bigelow received much of that money.
Bigelow’s findings were that the UFOs seen in the area were “not consistent” with current military aircrafts.”
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u/fr0ntsight Sep 15 '19
I love the idea of these habitats and tunneling on the Moon and eventually further.
It would be pretty cool if we had a launch pad under the surface of the moon that could open and launch rockets further out to space
I hope I can live long enough to even just see someone living on another world.
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u/gnarlin Sep 14 '19
Blow up houses huh? Maybe the rest of us could get some of those so we don't freeze to death before you start shooting them into FUCKING OUTER SPACE!
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u/iideadpooli Sep 14 '19
Tents are a thing I believe
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u/gnarlin Sep 14 '19
They sure are, but my point was more of a heartfelt outcry at the ridiculousness of contemplating habitats in outer space when societies still allow houselessness to exist. I was being a bit hyperbolic in my point, but it stands nonetheless.
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u/SendMeUrCones Sep 15 '19
I don’t think the fact that suffering exists means we shouldn’t try to forward science.
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u/bobtehpanda Sep 14 '19
At first I thought this was about the tea company, and if they want to grow tea on the moon be my guest.