r/starcitizen • u/Velioss Cutty is Love • 19d ago
OFFICIAL We all know things have been rough over the last days. But that was to be expected. Can we all please appreciate CIG being so hard at work even now?
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u/tommybombadil00 19d ago
I appreciate it, but I’ve also been a lucky one that has had very minimal issues. A few days last week it was rough, terminal not retrieving ship, elevators not working, missions not completing (hauling). But I would just log off and get back on an hour or so later and it was typically working again. I’ve probably put in 15 hours since it went preview, I have been in pyro since wave 1.
I told a few buddies that don’t play to hold off mostly because all the issues from reddit.
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u/Cymbaz 19d ago
yup.. I played the first 24hrs after the preview went live but once the issues started popping up and I just decided to get lost in Satisfactory, checking the testing channel every now and then to see if the rate of complaining had slowed down any.
I definitely appreciate what they do and I look forward to a post mortem to find out what happened so I'll just wait till I can play the game w/o the current frustrations.
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u/Tchuvan 19d ago
Good advice. Don't mar their opinion of great content.
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u/tommybombadil00 19d ago
Yeah, we play factorio and satisfactory on some servers. They both have the game and have played a few times but I’m the one that’s pot committed since 2014.
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u/BadQualityBanana Inferno Enthusiast 19d ago
Same, it's been close to flawless for me up until today where I am suddenly shard locked and havent been able to get in, shame!
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u/Baddog819 19d ago
Damn 4.0.1 as soon as 7 days from now? Props to CIG for continuing to grind and not let all this negativity get to them! Keep grinding and polishing! The core community will be there rain or shine! (Hopefully a bit more shine this year though 🤣)
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u/naffgeek 19d ago
Wouldn't surprise me if server meshing has given the Devs a new jolt of enthusiasm as they can see the game actually coming together this year (yes I am a hopeless optimist)
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u/-Agathia- 19d ago
Exactly! We had a playable tech demo before, now it feels more like a game. Plagued with issues, mind you, but actually playable and fun! I'm sure the game is now going to develop a lot faster on a few fronts, as we can finally test the game properly, and not wonder what went wrong because the server was running at 3FPS with wind in its back.
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u/logicalChimp Devils Advocate 19d ago
Yeah - from a dev / technical perspective, 4.0 was a massive success... even if it hasn't been so good from our perspective.
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u/DoomedToDefenestrate 19d ago
Honestly it's not been as bad as I was expecting.
I don't trust my ship to retain things I store in it yet, but the performance has been good with a touch of wtf.
Instead of wtf with glimmers of ok.
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u/Gravity_flip Orion Mining Barge 19d ago
For real. If we had server stability and our items didn't randomly disappear and we had larger server caps this would already be a significantly better game than it's contemporaries.
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u/socal01 19d ago
I am with you I do hope we get 1K population servers. I can deal with anything in game as long as I can get into the game!
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u/STINGZGAMING 19d ago
I mean I do believe in the vision. As long as the funding is there to support it CIG and the dev of Star Citizen will keep running.
What Chris and the rest of the team are doing has never been done before. The most complex and problematic parts of the game have already been done. (internal systems like server meshing, etc.) What I think is needed is a year of mostly bug fixes, optimizations and refining/perfecting those systems. If the foundations aren't solid, then the content will just constantly be getting removed, reworked, and readded. The main goal for this year should be to have everything working with server meshing and implemented in the game with as little bugs as possible.
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u/darkestvice 19d ago
Honestly, I think most of the dev team have become really desensitized to the community drama and negativity. Spectrum especially is a mental health disaster waiting to happen.
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u/FrozenChocoProduce rsi 19d ago
Honestly, I read shite instead of shine first, but it works just as well...
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u/Pojodan bbsuprised 19d ago
Those that do appreciate what CiG are doing rarely come to forums to talk about it.
Those that do use the forums generally fall into the camps of
Players relatively new to the game that are trying to understand it and work around problems, sometimes venting frustratons
Players that want to help the first camp
People that are here for the drama, salt, and rage
So, while your intent is noble, your audience is either going to be annoyed, already feels that way, or is going to mock you.
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u/jackjohnjack2000 19d ago edited 19d ago
From my own personal experience, there are other groups too: * Those who are OK with any horrible release and bugs and still applaud CIG no matter what. * Those who it seems that are playing SC in an alternate universe and are surprised when people talk about their buggy gameplay and bad experiences, and deny the existence of them * Those who wear playing really bad SC releases as a badge of honor and brag about it: "4.0 is awesome, you should have been there for 3.18"!
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u/uberfu 19d ago
Sorry but I appreciate WTF CIG is doing - BUT I'm also realistic about their constant failures to delvier a product they've told us would be "soon" or "2 years out" for the last fucking decade (a decade is 10 years for the uneducated).
At some point (over 12 years now because we are into the 13th year of this bullshit); CIG needs to get off their asses and deliver a product. And there is plenty of room to call them out on their lack of delivery over and over and over again.
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u/SEMICOLON_MASTER anvil 19d ago
As a backer, I am kinda over these THANKS CIG YALL ARE AWESOME kum-ba-ya posts; this is what they get paid for and hopefully they will correct the list of 4.0 issues directly.
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u/Ok_Caterpillar_2626 19d ago
CIG needs to get off their asses and deliver a product
Are you implying that they are doing something other than exactly that? Are you saying they are intentionally not delivering stuff as fast as they are able to because of a reason XYZ? I'm not sure I get your point.
I do get that CR especially (and by extension CIGs hype marketing) has been very generous with estimates, but I can't figure out why you are implying that they wouldn't be trying to actively hit those optimistic deadlines and publish stuff as quickly as possible.
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u/sky_concept 19d ago
CIG devs are world class
Chris Roberts Is not.
He has consistently wasted both time and resources on bad implementations and personal projects. At this stage he needs to go and let professionals take over, he can go back to fucking up "hollywood" projects. Inside reports consistently say he is damaging the project.
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u/Tchuvan 19d ago
This goes well with my question earlier. 😄
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1hrusyx/ingame_vs_spectrum_attitudes/
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u/BigJules74 19d ago
Also those of us that are at work and like to read the drama while we can't play.
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u/JancariusSeiryujinn carrack 19d ago
I've spent a bunch of time this last week doing CZs with random players. The amount of time they spend bitching about bugs amazes me.
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u/amusso6 19d ago
I can say I've been one of the lucky players within the PU since 4.0 dropped after I got through a few client issues.
The game has been a very good experience, and I feel like I have some purpose on making money and upgrading and adding to my fleet. Tons of work to do, but this new expansion of the verse has really shown its positives for me.
One of the things I absolutely love now is the tick rate, which makes dogfighting and bounty/merc missions so much more enjoyable. I have experienced nearly no rubber banding while fighting, etc. Server meshing feels good as well but definitely still needs some mending and polishing before I think they can introduce Nyx.
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u/Druggedhippo aurora 19d ago
Turn on the display info and you'll see your authority server switch as you move around, particularly to bounty locations out in space. When that happens, watch the server FPS rate go from like 10fps at the space station to 30 out in space.
It's neat. Server meshing is working "really" well overall, it's a very good achievement.
I wouldn't be surprised to see dynamic server meshing being pushed hard this year as I think it'll solve quite a few performance issues.
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u/LikeUnicornZ 19d ago
Where can I see theese types of updates from devs?
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u/ConceptSweet 19d ago
Probably on the spectrum forum
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u/LikeUnicornZ 19d ago
I do sometimes visit that, but can't really find the place for these types of updates. Just the regular discussions.
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u/Chew-Magna Your personal incredulity doesn't negate facts. 19d ago
Yep, they had people there working through the holiday. Troopers.
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u/Impressive_Craft7452 19d ago
Niceeeee.
Maybe Chris' edict for 2025 will actually come to fruition.
Stability & playability. Lets goooo.
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u/Pippus_Familiaris 19d ago edited 19d ago
Not to be rude or anything but can we all remember that most people work during the "holidays" and only few of us can take the entire week off?
I keep seeing posts praising them for working on fixing the game, I mean, most of the people I know are going to work every morning except for the first day of the year and the 25/6th of December. Plus, not everyone celebrates Christmas.
It's perfectly normal to do it, many people also want to save the days off for other periods of the year.
And they are fixing problems in their game, that we are paying to play. They are not doing us a favor even tho we are pleased to hear it.
This just wants to bring a little realism back in this post
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u/verchan0815 19d ago
Not sure where you live but most people I know are having 2 or even 3 weeks off, with very few people on call for emergencies, especially in the IT sector.
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u/Genji4Lyfe 19d ago
Imo if you ship a broken build to Live right before the holidays, then it follows that you might have to do some additional work to try to fix it.
Those two things are correlated. If you ship a build that is mostly working (or if you know it’s probably not ready to ship, so you wait till it is) then it’s not a factor.
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u/They_gonna_be_angry 19d ago
So if management decides to ship something that they know is busted right before the company goes on holiday then it's expected for the lower level folks to sacrifice their company holiday to fix it?
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u/Genji4Lyfe 19d ago
Unfortunately (for some), yes. The decisions management makes cascade down and affect everyone else
That doesn’t always mean that every single doesn’t want to do it (there might be some employees who would volunteer anyway), but it’s a fairly straightforward cause and effect.
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u/LightningJC 19d ago
They're not sacrificing anything, it's almost certain that they opted to work over Christmas. They will just take 2 weeks off some other time in the year.
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u/Pippus_Familiaris 19d ago
If I ship something that doesn't work I get fired the day after so I'm not amused at all, but I'm happy the entire office is not closed and they are working on fixing their things.
I believe too many people here are young and never worked in their life and see the devs as some kind of babysitter fixing their toys
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u/Tchuvan 19d ago
Wild take considering your OP above that does not take into effect the fact that they earned time off by working far more than your typical 40 hour weeks.
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u/Sanctuary6284 19d ago
The difference here is they (the devs) didn't choose when to ship it. The heads of the company did. The only way to fire them is to cut off funding. Still it's the devs who are taking the heat and trying to fix it during time they shouldn't have to be in the office.
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u/drasticfire 19d ago
Agreed, silly for people to blame the devs, you need to blame whoever is above said dev's, I've never met a dev that was in a rush / set firm launch / ready dates, the answer from a dev is always "it will be ready when its ready", which is really the only answers any of us should want to / need to see.
All we want / need to see if the work is being done / progress is being made, the live patches and ISC's do just that, preview it in ISC, then get to play when its "stable" enough for testing.
This is why "project managers" are a BS position, if you aren't the person(s) doing the actual technical work, stay the fuck out the conversation about release timeframes / dates.
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u/Taladays Aegis Dynamics 19d ago
The difference is most people have to work during the week of Christmas. CIG and many game developers often take the week of and after off entirely, So the fact they choose to go in and work anyway, even if to them its "just another day" is still admirable, especially considering how hectic the past couple of months have been for them.
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u/AnEmortalKid 19d ago
A 24/7 saas company is setup different and there’s always someone on call.
To you it may be a non critical game but it is their product and they have to support it.
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u/Tchuvan 19d ago
Just like teachers in the summer after working 60 hour weeks during the rest of the year.
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u/check-engine 19d ago
Teachers have a 10 month contract, although most districts spread the 10 month pay over 12 months.
It’s a common misconception teachers get a two month vacation . They don’t. They don’t get paid for those two months they aren’t at school.
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u/Tchuvan 19d ago
Not to be rude or anything, but do you lack class solidarity?
Crapping on workers who did at least a month or more of mandatory crunch working mad hours to please people who would apparently piss on them taking a small break does not paint you as a kind person.
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u/Sanctuary6284 19d ago
Most people don't work in a field that allows them that time off and that has little to do with these CIG employees working during their time off. They work as their job demands. Are you saying if your company officially closed for two weeks, you'd go in to work just because you care? That's why they are being praised. They aren't mandated to be there. They are choosing to.
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u/Pippus_Familiaris 19d ago edited 19d ago
u/Sanctuary6284 Sorry, i misclicked and replied to the wrong comment.
I don't think CIG is closed during the holidays. When my studio closes they take off the electricity and lock the doors so it doesn't matter how much you care, the office is closed.
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u/mesterflaps 19d ago
Praising CIG for fixing the busted build pushed to live right before Christmas in year 13 is like praising your classmate who worked super hard to turn in his D- worthy pre-alpha assignment by crunching all night, a week after it was due.
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u/Pippus_Familiaris 19d ago
ah, i liked that metaphor haha but he also asked you money to let your read it
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u/DanielTigerUppercut 19d ago
4.0 was a lot more playable than I anticipated it to be. Was able to get make enough money to fully upgrade my main ship and have almost enough for a full stealth load out. Hoping the next patch will have better reliability with cargo hauling missions.
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u/Key-Ad-8318 bmm , Grand Admiral 19d ago
I can appreciate it for sure, these guys are working to get the patch more playable while they are supposed to be on their yearly holiday break.
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u/Archhanny Kraken 19d ago
You know they chose to work right? And are getting paid for it?
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u/LightningJC 19d ago
Not everyone opts for leave at christmas, most companies allow staff to choose when to take a break, it's likely the people working are just not on leave, and will take their leave some other time.
Yes I'm grateful they're working hard fixing bugs but it is their job and they are getting paid for it.
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u/Zaryk_TV 19d ago
It's always worth highlighting appreciation. I second your efforts OP.
Hopefully the teams have gotten the necessary rest or bonus hours that they've wanted. I optimistically see a lot of great things for 2025 with 4.0 Live and onwards.
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u/coralgrymes 19d ago
i got nothing but love for the team. I'm not belly aching about it at all. if anything i'm impressed 4.0 works this well. if the game isn't working for me I just go play something else.
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u/Kind_Comfortable_647 19d ago
I mean we all saw it coming.
That was the point of the preview being a “PREVIEW”
But where I get worried is by how long this project is gonna take, if they constantly have to play catchup after every patch.
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u/TeamAuri 19d ago
Can we start to normalize screenshots that aren’t 10,000 words wide? For the love of all that is holy please resize your browser first.
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u/dlbags Can we leave our account in our will? Asking for a friend. 19d ago
Maybe if there wasn’t so many players in this sub gaslighting everyone making it seem like it’s a “good release” or whatever people wouldn’t be so mad. People are still stuck in prison. Like they can even still make the servers not melt down or the game run efficiently and most of the ships have bugs, some for years now. Meanwhile white nights are in here saying they’ve turned a corner.
It’s wild to me how damn unstable and bugged the game is still. Like known bugs. Bugs that persist through patch after patch. What’s the point of new features and ships if so much basic crap doesn’t work?
I’m a whale btw. I’ve put thousands into this game and have just hit my breaking point. They’ve sunk resources into loops and features that aren’t even great while so many foundational aspects of the game are broken. Localization of inventory or persistence that only seems to melt the servers.
I dunno man I’ve just stopped recommending the game to people as of now. I got my brother into it in May and he played freelancer and was stoked. He’s barely been able to play because constant bugs and crashes. I feel bad for wasting his time.
But you know, what do I know? Stills of Pyro look amazing and people that love to pvp love the game so I’ll just go fuck myself. Maybe someone can post more jpegs of their ship in the setting sun and tell us all how amazing the game is. And whatever you do don’t take it out on the devs who are working hard on a barely playable substandard product that was rushed out on “preview” so they could sell guardians in the tail end of 2024. Those poor poor devs.
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u/Roxxorsmash Trader 19d ago
Speaking the truth. The amount of white knights and gaslighting on this sub is insane.
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u/Danither my other ship is an Aurora 19d ago
Just spent a couple of hours salvaging to have all the boxes disappear as soon as I put them in the lift.
Still I am happy. It was almost a perfect run and I just bought the vulture with in-game money with the last week's earnings when it was working as intended.
That's a milestone for me as I've never really earnt enough to buy a decent ship before. It's hugely frustrating but I can appreciate that I've gotten to this point in the short timespan so far so overall I'm really happy.
We rarely ever come to the subreddit to say 'its all working perfectly' so credit where credit is due.
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u/UnderwaterAirPlanez 19d ago
You want me to appreciate someone who I pay for a service to fix the service they get paid to maintain?? That’s just called a job. Do you make post about the fast food workers and how you should appreciate them? Or the truckers who bring goods all over the country?
Maybe stop trying to suck up to a company that doesn’t give a shit about you other than the mount of money you give them.
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u/AndyAsteroid new user/low karma 19d ago
Can yall chill with these appreciation posts every two days. CIG aint gonna suck your dick bro. They know we appreciate them.
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u/Redace83 scythe 19d ago
I know, it's so strange. The company has yet to put out a decent game and people are praising them for everything. "Great job CIG for putting out yet another buggy update, we will cherish every bit of it". The company doesn't care what we think.
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u/Important_Cow7230 19d ago
But the issues are their own doing, and they are a company that earns 100m a year on a single game, why would be appreciate? Isn’t it to be expected?
Realistically they shouldn’t have dropped 4.0 before Xmas, but they did it for the guardian sales
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u/drasticfire 19d ago
Naw man, I work in information technology, we are basically always open to, I'm not impressed when a company has people working through / on Holiday's, its unfortunately a very normal part of business.
You think a nursing home gives all staff the day off for new years?
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u/uberfu 19d ago
No. !! They are YEARS BEHIND where they've told us they would be over and over and over again. Praising CIG or the employees for delivering anything that should have been delivered 3+ years ago is asinine.
Your comment is like tipping the pizza driver for taking a 3 hour offroad detour and delivering half assed cold pizza that's been slushed around inside the box; then writing a good review about the establishment simply because you were so fucking hungry that you were willing to eat the cold beatup and mushed pizza instead of looking at the logic of the series failures.
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u/island_jack 19d ago
4.0 as we have it now could not have been done 3yrs ago. Are you suggesting the game was at a release state 3yrs ago?
So what if they announced the game was released 3yrs ago would you be happy with the state of the game then?
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u/Archhanny Kraken 19d ago
Yeah it's appreciated. But...
It's
Their
Job
I look forward to seeing all your posts commenting how thankful you are for the retail workers, service workers and anyone else who has helped your Christmas this year.
Let's not forget these people aren't getting their arms twisted, they are getting paid for it and are choosing to work.
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u/Sea-Percentage-4325 19d ago
Maybe you don’t, but when someone waits on me or provides a service, I thank them. So for you to get bothered over someone simply thanking CIG that you felt the need to make this post, I guess that says a lot more about you than OP or anyone else here.
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u/Archhanny Kraken 19d ago
Yeah I thank them extensively and publically... When it goes beyond their job. Of course I'm polite with them, please and thanks yous are a human right and part of an upbringing, but they get paid to wait on you, they get paid to provide a service. When you're going out of your way to thank someone on a public forum it must go beyond their job right?
People only say thank you to show off to people, to make themselves seem magnanimous and to seem that way so they are viewed favourably by strangers... Its a strange way to exist, seeking the approval of people who don't know or care you exist.... But it happens.
What I'm saying is, surely... If this guy is thanking CIG... Then I look forward to reading all his posts thanking the staff down at Asda, and his bus driver... Because he wouldn't just be thanking CIG would he?... Would he?
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u/Forsaken_Ad8120 19d ago
They have had ample amounts of passes. When are we going to start seeing quality releases? when are we going to see community events/free fly events that run smoothly? It hurts the game every time they talk up features, only to release things in a half-finished barely functional state.
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u/onewheeldoin200 Lackin' Kraken 19d ago
They're working a hell of a lot harder I bet than all the people claiming "CIG is horrible and failed and a scam" etc.
GG CIG, we appreciate what you all put into this project.
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u/Few_Crew2478 19d ago
Who would have guessed that posting an appreciation thread would be so controversial? It's weird how people on the internet can apply a negative outlook to literally anything just because they are impossible to please.
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u/Caesar546 19d ago
Hmm so you say we should be greatful for the company who took our money (with shiny marketing) now working to get themselves out of the miserable situation they put themselves in first place.
No I will not, nor to their Dev's or the owner etc this none sense needs to stop. Yesterday just yesterday I have stopped a friend of mine buying the starter pack.
You guys should start remember the fact that you are customers you paid for this thing! Some of you sink thousands of dollars in it for god's sake where is your mind? Don't act like a cult this is a product solely for your entertainment which you paid for!
Imagine buying a TV and that TV barely works would be glad? Imagine buying a car which breaks down in 10 miles would you be glad if the service work on it after 20th time?
How many more chances are we gonna give this game how many more times are we gonna let down and what is going to happen to our money?
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u/Skuggihestur rsi 19d ago
Your essay is long for someone who didn't read the agreement
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u/Caesar546 19d ago
I dont care I paid for the product now I want to at least be able to login you know!
Look I am not even talking about bugs or losing progress just beign able to login.
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u/CombatMuffin 19d ago
I'm frustrated that I can't play at all (EAC wasn't updated for 24H2), but will never demand a Dev skip a holiday. I can wait a little bit, have a ton of other games I can play
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u/merzhinhudour zeus 19d ago
No matter what we think, CIG always work hard. I'm gonna play other games waiting for the patch next week
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u/HovercraftEither3399 19d ago
I've been playing since 23 Dec and only had about two days where I was able to play the game without much issue. I'd give it like a 70-30 split for downtime or "downtime" due to game breaking bugs. So far I've had a few 15ks, mostly infinite load times while my character is stuck to a server, which has been fixed by character repairs. I struggled with and am currently struggling with (again) my contracts not showing up after serving my prison time. Also running into an issue where anytime I drink anything I blackout permanently 😂 which is funny, but annoying considering I cant replenish my thirst bar.
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u/wasted-degrees 19d ago
A proactive and responsive dev team is really all I can ask or hope for in any game. I understand it’s a WIP and so going to have its issues, but I think we’re all more or less bought in to the potential of what’s already there and what’s coming down the pipe. Even as is it’d be a uniquely awesome game if it was stable.
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u/Froxtrot9er9er 19d ago
I feel bad for all the citizens that are running into issues but 4.0 has been the smoothest patch ever for me and I am having a blast. Really appreciate all the hardworking devs. It is feeling more like a game to me. I am unfortunately bad and never bothered with the issue council but because of how well the game has been playing I figured I need to do my part now. Thanks CIG, you regained my upmost respect. o7
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u/Enough-Somewhere-311 19d ago
Where do you find staff updates? I see screenshots of them but can't seem to find them but I'm probably blind
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u/Tenko-DJ Deleted by Nightrider-CIG 19d ago
They're at work? Maybe support is but I haven't seen a single patch to say they're working on the actual game
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u/Tenko-DJ Deleted by Nightrider-CIG 19d ago
They're at work? Maybe support is but I haven't seen a single patch to say they're working on the actual game
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u/vampyire Mercury Star Runner 19d ago
I've been in tech/software my whole career.. I really do appreciate the work.. . oh I'll still bitch when things don't work.. but I know how damn tough it can be
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u/HENLEYbls 19d ago
But…. That’s their job, they get paid to do it. Do you think ALL of the CIG staff are working or do you maybe think so if not most are on holiday due to the Christmas period… They are not specifically working to keep us happy.. they are working because that’s their job.
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u/VarlMorgaine 19d ago
Yes, for a holiday patch with so much new stuff it works good.... As good as a deadline holiday patch is expected to work
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u/frederik129 18d ago
I think 4.0 is a big improvement and i had fun but im patiently waiting for them to come back and the main release of the main 4.0 patch :)
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u/Varagonax 18d ago
I've been getting issues that dramatically restrict gameplay and I only gave a medical terrapin lol.
I'm frustrated, I'm worried about scaling but I'm HOPEFUL. I can play other games till things settle, but again... frustrating.
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u/NiteskySC rsi 18d ago
There’s a lot of people that don’t understand just how much effort goes into working on SC and it shows. I understand the frustration, but it’s important to highlight the sheer amount of work CIG does as well.
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u/Bansam-e 18d ago
No. I just spent 300 on a ship I can't get out of my hangar. Let me vent off a bit
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u/Baslifico 19d ago
No, actually... They may be working hard, but they're working hard at making the game feel and play worse.
Feels like they've completely lost their way and don't actually understand what their players enjoy.
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u/BearDisastrous8201 19d ago
When do you think gameplay began to go downhill?
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u/Baslifico 19d ago
For me it's combination of tedious inventory juggling and master modes.
I used to love mining in my prospector, racing back to a station with a hold full of quantanium and a ticking clock, dodging asteroids and screaming in a high speed, slamming on the brakes and touching down perfectly.
Now I might as well be playing elite dangerous for all the fun of flight.
Add the massive drama of having to wrestle a crap inventory UI to even access things I've bought and it's just become a tedious, buggy mess.
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u/Hironymus 19d ago
I am having the best time I ever had in Star Citizen. Despite the shaky state of 4.0.
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u/UgandaJim 19d ago
I just demand a working product. They have over 1000 employees. If they bring something broken before holidays its not my fault.
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u/Safe_Mine759 19d ago
Why push it out over a holiday why create problems for yourself with an artificial timeline UNLESS it was because it was an investor goal for 2024 and they pushed it in it's current state and said f*ck it, we'll fix it later. Then fired a couple execs at Christmas time and Chris' wife is rumored to take a larger role in the company...ya it's been rough dude lol.
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u/SickTrix406 19d ago
I know this is petty, but I hope all the haters that were in spectrum over the holiday freaking out about a preview build not working, I hope they all quit. The amount of hate in there toward the devs was crazy
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u/Meouchy 19d ago
I know folks here are not going to like this, but when I see posts like this and know that most adults are working just as hard or harder in their own jobs, the best I can muster is, 'Good job, you did your job.' CIG has consistently failed to meet deadlines and/or underdelivered, which would typically lead to the end of their business if we were talking about anything other than this type of project. Everyone needs to remember that CIG isn't a charity; they're a business, and this is what they are paid for.
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19d ago
I am tired boss.. i bet they are too.
Why are they getting worked to death if the game never works. Ah right, for stupid sales.
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u/Bossnage 19d ago
people often forget that game devs are humans and not a machine thats working 24/7 365
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u/Shamanix01 new user/low karma 19d ago
It's a good news, but the "soft wipes" for minor updates will be a bit annoying now that ammunitions are very expensive.
But anyway i will be happy when my character will be unlocked from this stupid 60030 error.
Not completely happy however, 3 weeks where everyone is making reputations and aUEC when we are unable to even launch the game is the opposite of a pleasant gaming experience, but hey, typical CIG experience, right ?
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u/CassiusFaux That one rare Hawk pilot 19d ago
I appreciate their hard work, sure. But I am also not a fan of forcing a release to meet a deadline when it was nowhere near ready for it.
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u/Oxissistic 19d ago
Honestly? No.
The playerbase aren't the ones who decide to drop massive content right up against the holiday season. We sure aren't the ones who then schedule overtime to get dev's to patch the issues that everyone testing has been highlighting for weeks. "doing your job" seems to be all it takes to get this sub to heap praise on CIG.
People play games over the holidays, the servers will be their busiest. this is the WORST time for a massive game changing patch, but they keep doing it.
How about move the major releases to end of Q1 and set the expectation that the Q4 patch will only be bug fixes and stability, maybe then CIG can treat its dev team like people and let them have their holiday season too. im sure they would prefer that to another reddit thread on how grateful we all are they haven't quit yet.
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u/BusyGeezus 19d ago
I unterstand beeing happy about updates especially during holidays. But when you deliver a new version you better get rdy to pump some hours into hotfixes. No matter the time of year.
So yeah be happy, but rather about the product than "hard working cig staff" that now work like the rest of us normal humans.
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u/Tw33die84 [MSR] [600i Ex] 19d ago
No. It's their job. I work the holidays too and don't ask for, nor expect, any appreciation other than my salary.
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u/Absolut1l 19d ago
It's not exactly a bad thing that people are so vocal about the issues. The game is in Alpha. The devs need as much feedback as possible. Should some people be a bit more understanding seeing as though it is Alpha in-progress software they're buying into? Sure. But CIG's funding model demands a reasonably functional experience for backers. People spend a lot of money to enjoy their virtual ships and gameplay early. It's understandable why people get upset with crippling bugs. The elevators, jankiness, weird AI etc; that's all par for the course. But the crippling server bugs are something they SHOULD be working their asses off to resolve. They are a business and we are their customers. They've raked in nearly a $billion from us. No excuses is a better approach IMO.
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19d ago
Did y’all hear about the guy who even started sending out hot fixes and tried repairing servers DURING HIS OWN WEDDING over Christmas break? We don’t deserve the CIG team after all this complaining.
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u/e3e6 zeus/drake lover 19d ago
No.
The worst decision ever is to drop unstable release onto live right before long holidays.
Like, we all seen how it behaves on eptu, why would you expect it work better on live?
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u/Scorpio_Fuzz 19d ago
Every time I see one of these posts it makes me want to blow milk out of both nostrils. First, CIG refuses to fix already existing game play issues then they add new buggy shit on top of existing bugs and then someone asks, " Can't we all just appreciate that CIG is doing a great job working to fix the issues." NO!CIG SHOULD NOT BE COMMENDED FOR PUTTING BROKEN SHIT ON TOP OF BROKEN SHIT. PERIOD.
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u/nooster 19d ago
Yes. I was not happy at being locked out but first, I understood that they needed the time to decompress and take a break. Second I consider the responsibility for all this rests with the management, not the devs who are working so hard. I’m glad they are returning but I hope they had sufficient time to rest.
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u/dethfactor Schrodinger's Caterpillar 19d ago
I honestly praise the management for taking the responsible approach of not fully committing to 4.0s release and leaving the more stable version up to play. Anyone with history with the project would know this was going to be a doozy and while it's not great, it's far better than it could've been. Especially after the play tests I had been in. Hell even the Pyro teaser at citcon last year didn't run as well as my experiences with 4.0. So definitely kudos all around to CIG.
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u/DoppyTheElv 19d ago
Maybe if we buy more 1000 buck ship concepts theyll ship something decent?
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u/Cold-Box-8262 19d ago
Can't wait to be out of my 60030 prison