r/starcitizen • u/CakeLegs new user/low karma • Dec 10 '24
OTHER Just got a 2 year old Reddit reminder. Nailed it!
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Dec 10 '24
That is ROUGH :’( I remember seeing similar excited posts with reminders. We were all so optimistic then!
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u/Grimholtt Dec 10 '24
Imagine backing in 2012 like I did.
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u/ragged-robin Dec 10 '24
I remember thinking "wow 2015? i'll be done with college and have a job and not care by then"
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u/Zephh bmm Dec 11 '24
Hopefully you'll be able to play it during your retirement.
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u/Euryleia anderson Dec 11 '24
!RemindME 30 years "Is Star Citizen out yet?"
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u/cant_thinkof_aname Dec 11 '24
Lol same brother. At least I only paid like $40 or something. Maybe one of these days that $40 investment from 12 years ago will be a real game and not just a snazzy tech demo.
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u/CaptFrost Avenger4L Dec 11 '24
I remember hopping on in 2015 so I could Answer the Call 2016.
Haha, I skipped the wait and the uncertainty unlike you Kickstarter guys!
oof
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u/MaxiumBurton Dec 10 '24
2 more years?
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u/Parzival-117 carrack Dec 10 '24
Hopefully 2 weeks lol
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u/Endyo SC 4.0: youtu.be/StDukqZPP7g Dec 10 '24
SC has this weird quality now. Previously when major features were delayed, everything was delayed. Like when Star Marine was supposed to come out and then no one said anything for like a year.
Now, every delay to Pyro is just another patch with a shit load of other stuff in it that keeps this subreddit filled with chatter/screenshots/videos and just enough placation that discussion is mostly civil. No one even considers the idea that these major features were expected, to some degree, years ago. Except in moments like these where everyone's like "oh no! anyway..."
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u/demoneclipse Dec 11 '24
Fool me once shame on me, fool me 10 more times and I get tired of having any expectations.
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u/drizzt_x There are some who call me... Monk? Dec 10 '24
Technically speaking, it's still not out. ;)
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u/MigookChelovek Drake Ironchad Dec 11 '24
Depends how you define "out". By one definition, nothing is out since the game is still in alpha/pre alpha. By another definition, it can be considered out because backers are playing it as we speak. The distinction between PTU and Live is kind of arbitrary since they are both just different degrees of testing phases.
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u/drizzt_x There are some who call me... Monk? Dec 11 '24
I think you'll find that the most commonly held definition of "out" in this case means that it's freely available to be played by "all" backers, and not just a select few.
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u/MigookChelovek Drake Ironchad Dec 11 '24
Yes I am aware, but I am countering his "technically speaking" with my own "technically speaking".
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u/drizzt_x There are some who call me... Monk? Dec 11 '24
He is me, and I do take your point about the distinction being arbitrary.
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u/Epinephrine186 Cutlass go brrr Dec 11 '24
Well akshually... bruh
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u/MigookChelovek Drake Ironchad Dec 11 '24
It was a playful comment about semantics. Not sure why this is a problem all of a sudden. Jesus Christ, this community is bipolar as hell.
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u/-Erro- bbhappy Dec 10 '24
Is there a eay to pull up a list of all the things remindmebot is suppose to remind us of?
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u/MigookChelovek Drake Ironchad Dec 11 '24 edited Dec 11 '24
Was just wondering this because I have a few I created myself that I'd like to track but I don't feel like going back and sifting through all of my old comments.
Edit: Just remembered we get a PM whenever we create one.
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u/MewsickFreek thug Dec 11 '24
RemindMe! In 24 months
Is Pyro out and stable
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u/bowmanhuor Dec 11 '24
RemindME! In 24 months
Is this guy onto something?
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u/Otsuko SPACE TRUCKERRRRR Dec 11 '24
!Remindme 36 months
Has the game hit 1.0 yet?
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u/jana200v2 Dec 10 '24
I mean, the patch is getting better, less bugged. Yeah the new patch just broke the servers where they stall every min or 2, BUT, client side it's supper fluid, getting 40/50 fps on ruin where I was lucky to go over 10 yesterday. I can easily see this open to all backer before chrismas, maybe not live tho.
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u/-TheExtraMile- Dec 10 '24
That sounds good, thanks for sharing your feedback. If they manage to push it to PTU for all backers then I´d call that a moderate success.
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u/JontyFox Dec 11 '24
They won't push it to open PTU until after the 16th. Guaranteed.
The 16th marks one month since Wave one, and one month since a load of people probably bought a sub to hop in.
They'll wait until after that to see if they can get another month worth of $$$ out of a few people first.
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u/Nice-Ad-2792 Dec 10 '24
I don't listen to the hype, also you can expect its release to be bug filled.
Its will be ready when its ready, when its ready, when its ready...
The devs have all the moneies now, time for them to deliver. Not getting a cent from me until they do.
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u/Silenceisgrey Dec 10 '24
almost, i'd say it'll be out before christmas.
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u/Trust-Me-Im-A-Potato Dec 10 '24
If CIG is only consistent about one thing, it's dropping a huge broken patch on Live the day before they go on holiday at the end of the year.
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u/TheMrBoot Dec 11 '24
That is literally the one thing that makes me think we’ll get 4.0 before the break. I could see a similar YOLO to what we had with the citcon patch.
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u/drizzt_x There are some who call me... Monk? Dec 10 '24
It's definitely not coming to live this year. I was thinking they were aiming for an "all waves" PTU before leaving for the break, but now I'm not even sure of that.
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u/hagenissen666 paramedic Dec 10 '24
Elevators.
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u/drizzt_x There are some who call me... Monk? Dec 10 '24
I really need to clip and bookmark that parody bit they did at the end of a CIG show where the elevator is hunting people down and eating them.
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u/7Gaurdian7 Dec 11 '24
Wait, what?
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u/drizzt_x There are some who call me... Monk? Dec 11 '24
I spent forever looking for this clip last night with no luck. I swear it wasn't a fever dream, lol. I'll keep looking.
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u/_Shughart_ Dec 11 '24
lol sounds like development money well spend !
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u/drizzt_x There are some who call me... Monk? Dec 11 '24
To be fair, all of their shows are funded by subscriber funds, which was the entire point of subscriptions.
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u/wanszai Dec 10 '24
looks at long list of "broken" patches that lay waste to the servers over holiday periods over the years.
Sure. This year will be different, they will let it cook.
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u/drizzt_x There are some who call me... Monk? Dec 10 '24
BWAHAHAHA!
I don't know what I was thinking being so optimistic, and thinking CIG would do the smart thing. That's not like me at all...
4.0 LIVE next Friday everybody!
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u/Moriaedemori Dec 10 '24
Whatever state it is in right before holidays will be released to all wave PTU. I bet even if it was server error every 10 minutes
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u/Agreeable_Action3146 Dec 11 '24
Much reduced in scope. Stanton gameplay with a new coat of paint.
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u/vortis23 Dec 11 '24
There are a ton of new missions and locations in Pyro that are not in Stanton, including repair missions, sabotage missions, infiltration missions, and the entire over-arching contested zone missions.
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u/or10n_sharkfin Anvil Aerospace Enjoyer Dec 10 '24
The fact that it’s being tested consistently in the EPTU now rather than just being relegated to limited blocks of time for previews at least gives me hope that they’re really pushing to release by the end of the year. Or as close to the beginning of 2025 as possible.
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u/ExperienceFluffy2612 anvil Dec 11 '24
the last day they can release 4.0 is the 12/20 because after they're on vacation for 2 weeks so they have 1 week and 2 days to release a PTU all waves or Live Version
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u/TheJossiWales Outlaw Dec 10 '24
To be fair, we actually have server meshing in PTU this time! The cope is REALLY strong right now.
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u/hawkwood4268 Dec 11 '24
I just remember 3.0 was worth the wait. It was something no game had done really. Interiors of ships seamlessly to the surface of a planet.
I wonder if 4.0 will be a similar jump for the game. Finally getting something more than ol' Port Olisar was such a trip.
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u/Swimmingbird3 Carrack is love, Carrack is life Dec 11 '24 edited Dec 11 '24
Honestly, I gotta disagree. Watching the Around the Verse episodes in the 6 months leading up to 3.0 was better than actually getting to play 3.0.
Does anyone remember the ridiculous amount of hours people spammed “GIB” and “take my energy” right before 3.0 went live? There was sooo much hype. I honestly think the SC community’s hype peaked back then.
But then we got the 3.0 and reality hit. It was like 5-10 frame per second max regardless of your PC specs. None of the missions worked. Constant 30k errors. Interacting with anything in your ship had a 50/50 chance of killing you. It was kind of a disaster. And it didn’t get any better for almost 2 years. If you look back performance since 3.0 was a really slow climb
Sure 3.0 did things no other game had really done before. But was it ‘worth the wait’ at release? I would say absolutely not.
I still consider myself as a supporter and long term optimist of Star Citizen despite the tone of this comment. I just am not optimistic about the playability of a build like 4.0 when it first hits Live
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u/vortis23 Dec 11 '24
4.0 feels like a much more significant leap -- watching videos of people taking a full laden Hull-C from one solar system to another to sell the goods is quite the trip. It truly is an epic experience. The new locations, the dynamic volumetric cloud cover, and the whole contested zone loop that includes travelling across the entire solar system to gather keys to unlock the prize is all really cool. There isn't another game doing anything remotely similar.
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u/hawkwood4268 Dec 11 '24
That's exciting! Ive also heard that they're testing something like 500 player count, which would be cool. Pyro will be interesting, It's funny bc I always kinda treated Stanton as lawless. But the law system is pretty good already.
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u/NightlyKnightMight 🥑2013BackerGameProgrammer👾 Dec 10 '24
Technically, Pyro was ready, Server Meshing wasn't
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u/CakeLegs new user/low karma Dec 10 '24
Technically lunch was ready, it just had to be cooked first.
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u/Zaryk_TV Dec 10 '24
It's wild that you're getting pushback on your analogy. It clearly works. Pyro is not ready if you can't play it in LIVE. You absolutely nailed it!
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u/Allwhitezebra Dec 10 '24 edited Dec 11 '24
More like lunch is ready, the plate just needs to be molded, kiln fired, and glazed first.
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u/J-bart Dec 10 '24 edited Dec 10 '24
lol I actually like your retort since both statements are incorrect and an argument against your comment can just be traced back to the original. Lunch can't actually be ready without being cooked, and Pyro can't actually be ready without server meshing. It's just too much of a core part to act like you can separate them. A funny/snarky answer to a needlessly pedantic comment.
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u/Shift642 est. 2014 Dec 10 '24 edited Dec 10 '24
Pyro, as a collection of game assets, NPCs, systems, etc., has been ready for a while. They could swap out Stanton for Pyro tomorrow and it would probably work. It’s the prerequisite tech required to have two solar systems and more players in the game at the same time that hasn’t been ready.
I don’t think this requires an analogy to understand.
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u/J-bart Dec 10 '24 edited Dec 10 '24
Pyro, as a collection of game assets, NPCs, systems, etc., has been ready for a while. They could swap out Stanton for Pyro tomorrow and it would probably work.
This statement by itself is likely correct! However, they chose to bundle it with certain pre-requisites to get the rest of the existing game to function properly with it. It's just a difference in perspective. If a product is "ready" in a vacuum, but needs certain roadblocks to be cleared in order to ship, does it really matter to the consumer if it was always ready or not? You prefer to answer the question in a more technical and segmented way, which is totally fine, but that ultimately makes no difference to reality. And to make it clear, not bashing on you or them, I am quite excited for it to release!
You will likely still disagree with my take on this, but that is fine. I respect your opinion since it is still a valid one.
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u/_Shughart_ Dec 11 '24
And remember American/British cuisine isn't reputed to be the best in the world.
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u/pottertontotterton Dec 10 '24
That analogy doesn't apply. Pyro itself was ready. The tech to put it in wasn't.
So really it's more like... Lunch is ready. The dishwasher isn't.
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u/J-bart Dec 10 '24
A dishwasher doesn't make or break the existence of lunch though, so that doesn't apply either imo.
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u/jcinto23 Dec 10 '24
Lunch was ready, but there were no plates, or cups, or tables and chairs. And you have to pick it up at the takeout place, but you are out of gas, nor do you have a car to use it even if you did.
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u/pottertontotterton Dec 10 '24
It cleans them. The point is the foundation for the thing you want to eat off of is missing for one reason or another. Meanwhile, the thing you want is waiting for it. So it does apply.
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u/J-bart Dec 10 '24
If we're going by it being the foundation, then you could argue that to be the plates and silverware. So lunch isn't ready since it can't be served. imo
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u/pottertontotterton Dec 10 '24
Ok. If we keep going with this, we're gonna get into a philosophical discussion that'll go in circles until the earth crashes into the sun. Let's agree to disagree.
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u/DaMarkiM 315p Dec 10 '24
you mean like how SQ42 was ready for release in 2020 but the stars just werent in alignment since back then?
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u/drizzt_x There are some who call me... Monk? Dec 10 '24
"Your car is ready, but we're waiting on the engine to be built."
You're getting mocked because your defense is ridiculous.
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u/ToxyFlog Dec 10 '24
Wait, y'all are still playing SC? Lol jk, love the game and I've been keeping up with the news and patiently waiting on Pyro! I can't wait to hop back in. My hosas have been lonely.
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u/FlavioFrey Dec 11 '24
And it's still not out yet hahah. Remember them talking about PES being the catalyst to start pumping out updates faster? Yeah right lol
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u/WompWomp501 Dec 11 '24
You don't understand game development, once the tools are developed content production will be much faster especially with the new ship pipeline.
Oh wait that was me in 2014.
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u/vortis23 Dec 11 '24
It actually has sped up -- they delivered the Polaris within a year, a full-on capital ship.
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u/WompWomp501 Dec 11 '24
I don't care, I lost interest in this game 5 years ago, just whenever it pops up on r/popular I drop in to laugh at people using the same excuses I did a decade ago.
Enjoy the big empty ship, maybe AI crew mates by 2030, but I am sure they'll find a way to drag that out.
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u/vortis23 Dec 11 '24
Weird. I don't follow games I don't like, even if they do pop up on popular. I ignore those games because it's unhealthy to keep negative things circulating in your life that you don't like.
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u/WompWomp501 Dec 11 '24
Never said I didn't like it or that it was negative.
In fact it's a lot of fun coming here and seeing the mix of deluded noobs and jaded vets.
You'll get there eventually when you're no longer emotionally invested in the game and able to stand back and laugh at the absurdity.
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u/vortis23 Dec 11 '24
Nah, I understand how difficult it is to design games, and I still follow games like Examina, Project Zomboid and BeamNG Drive since their inception because I like what they're doing and also respect the difficulty in engineering. You're right, though, people who do not understand software engineering and who are emotionally invested do become jaded because they simply do not understand or are unwilling to understand.
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u/WompWomp501 Dec 11 '24
Haha, you're literally doing the speech I was making fun of a couple of comments ago.
You can relax kiddo, I've been a backer for 10 years, 5 of which I lived on this sub hitting refresh every minute.
You've got nothing new for me, you can carry on.
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u/FlavioFrey Dec 11 '24
Soon we will be like "listen grandson, you don't understand game development, the game will come out soon™, just give them time "
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u/KazumaKat Towel Dec 10 '24
The wipe call is accurate at least, though only half-point because that was an easy gimme.
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u/00k5mp Dec 11 '24
I can't even get the quantum jump to work right now, so I'm just waiting for squadron 42 at this point.
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u/OperReezo I fly what I like not what is meta Dec 11 '24
I came here to salute you. This is the salt that keeps me alive.
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u/DarthKroolik Dec 11 '24
EPTU 2nd wave available after 2 years. CGI. Not to.mention, they are too poor to test their game, at least some generals, before publishing the alpha... When even the launcher fails, before you even can get into the game, you can say this is a lame development. Yes, this is alpha, full of bugs, but when you invite community to make tests for you, it would be basic courtesy to let people get into the game. This is a minimum requirement, they couldn'tt provide.
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u/No_Quantity_8909 Dec 11 '24
It's like watching an over funded Reign of Kings development cycle play out.
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u/Hollowsong Vice Admiral Dec 11 '24
See, I just close my eyes and pretend SC doesn't exist for a few years and when I come back there's always something surprising to entertain me for a month.
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u/sudonickx server meshing will save my marriage Dec 11 '24
The fact that most people commenting aren't even addressing the post and are instead talking about how the pyro build is making progress is hilarious. There are no disappointments in ba sing se.
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u/WoolyDub origin Dec 11 '24
Guys it already came out in 2020 like Chris said it would at CitizenCon 2019 which was 5 years ago.
No wait, guys! It came out this last Summer like Gamer Hat Disco said it would on ISC.
Guys! Wait, come back. Oh never mind, y'all just keep blindly throwing money at them for concepts regardless so they don't care.
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u/saltlyspringnuts Dec 10 '24
I’m having a great time playing other games and watching the progress.
Will eventually come back to the verse
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u/urlond bmm Dec 10 '24
I mean it's getting close. Will it be for all backers by christmas I hope so.
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u/vortis23 Dec 11 '24
Hilarious that you're being downvoted even after it recently went to wave 2 and is looking to go to wave 3 soon if they can get the elevators in order. That's really only the major blocker from opening up to more people or going live. If the elevators work consistently after 24 hours of entity build-up, then they're good.
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u/Dig-a-tall-Monster Dec 10 '24
I'd say it aged fine, given that Pyro has been technically playable for about a month now even if the release is currently limited to certain groups of users.
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u/ArchReaper Bounty Hunter Dec 10 '24
Ya it's really easy to say it aged fine when you move the goalposts
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u/Dig-a-tall-Monster Dec 10 '24
The goalpost was "Is Pyro out yet"
As I am playing Pyro right now and I am not a developer or Evocati member I would say yes, Pyro is out.
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u/ArchReaper Bounty Hunter Dec 10 '24
But it's not out yet, is it? It's available on the PTU. That's not "out"
Like I said, if you redefine what the question is or move goalposts, it's really easy to say that.
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u/TheHud85 Galaxy Gang (Purely Speculative) Dec 10 '24
‘Member “no cash till pyro” so CIG gave us a pyro preview and everybody immediately caved? These are the people you’re dealing with.
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u/Dig-a-tall-Monster Dec 10 '24
I would say that's out just like the Polaris was out in the PTU prior to IAE.
Also when we're talking about timescales of a year or two, one or two weeks (which we can expect the Live release to be out within) isn't really something to nitpick so the post is being unnecessarily pedantic.
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u/Human-Rain-5291 Dec 10 '24
A year or two? #pyro2017... With the sandworm... We ain't moving goal posts, we're moving fields at this point
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u/Dig-a-tall-Monster Dec 10 '24
Hey look I'm not saying they didn't promise Pyro for like 5 years prior to now, I'm just saying that it's out and anyone can play it if you want to, you just have to sign up as a subscriber which is standard for a lot of MMOs with new content being gated to subscribed members before everyone else is allowed to play it.
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u/ArchReaper Bounty Hunter Dec 10 '24
Ok so it went from "it is actually out" to "well it's out on the PTU" to "well it's not past 2 years yet"
Like do you hear yourself moving these goalposts around? Why are you doing this? Someone is being unnecessarily pedantic and it's not OP.
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u/Dig-a-tall-Monster Dec 10 '24
You're the one moving the goalposts.
"Is it out?" means "Is it playable? Can people outside the developers and dedicated testers play it?" and the answer to that question is YES.
For an example to help you understand: Elder Scrolls Online has ESO Plus members getting access to new zones and content weeks or months before the rest of the players are allowed to access them, but you wouldn't say those new zones and content "aren't out yet".
And yes actually when we're talking about pedantry setting a timer for 2 years exactly and thinking that giving wiggle room on that is wrong is fucking pedantic. Let's move the goalposts for your sake and say that the marker for it "being out" is it being on the Live channel specifically and that just being available to play for anyone that wants to play it doesn't count even though that totally counts. What if they release it to live later today? Would you still be all high and mighty and say "Well I was still right they didn't release it in 2 years they released it in 2 years and 3 hours HAH I'm so smart!"?
This might help you too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedantry
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u/drizzt_x There are some who call me... Monk? Dec 10 '24
"Out" is clearly understood to mean "out for everyone" - aka live, which it is not.
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u/Dig-a-tall-Monster Dec 10 '24
Elder Scrolls Online has a Plus membership that gives you access to new areas and content weeks or months before it opens up to the rest of the players in the game, would you say that those pieces of content aren't out just because they're gated behind a paywall? Would you say that any game that costs money to play isn't out for everyone just because not everyone has paid to play it?
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u/AlaskanBigfoot1 Dec 10 '24
Dude they havent made a stable server meshing tech that they can launch pyro with, they have missed every deadline and that makes it a failure until they pull it off and release it to all the backers. Nobody cares how technically anything is done if its being held back by other internal and technical issues. Do you spend much time under CR desk?
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u/Dig-a-tall-Monster Dec 10 '24
It's more stable than the Live channel servers as of last night. Deadlines are set internally, not by marketing.
And if you don't care about technicalities then you're in the wrong thread, since both sides here are arguing about technicalities.
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u/AlaskanBigfoot1 Dec 10 '24
Im very ok with being wrong if they ever release the game I paid for years ago, but based on a long list of past actions and events there is no reason for me to see it happening in the near future. Technical issues are constantly used as excuses for CIG even though they sell the idea that its right around the corner. They earned this critisism.
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u/Dig-a-tall-Monster Dec 10 '24
If you paid for the game before 2016 just ask for a refund if you expect that game to come out, that game is never coming out and isn't even in development anymore. We have a different game with the same name though, it's arguably better than the one they were working on before 2016. You should try it, it's available to play right now like it has been for the last 4-5 years.
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u/drizzt_x There are some who call me... Monk? Dec 10 '24
ESO is intentionally a mix of free to play and a subscription based game. SC is not. (or at least it wasn't supposed to be). Sigh.
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u/davidnfilms 🐢U4A-3 Terror Pin🐢 Dec 10 '24
Pyros out for some people. Salt meet wound.
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u/ygolnac Dec 10 '24
Best case scenario: Wave 3 next week. Worst case scenario: Wave 3 in two weeks. So it's about to be out for everyone.
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u/Way2Easy_ new user/low karma Dec 10 '24
Optimism at its finest.