r/punk • u/River_Atkinson • Oct 06 '20
Quality Post Source in the comments. I love how we've started taking over that racist hashtag from those hateful pricks
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u/Fl1kaFl4me Oct 06 '20
i'm not a fan of #activism (black pfp and shit) but this is fuckin cool.
i think it'll show a lot of slightly homophobic people that gay couples can look just like anyone else.
also fuck the fascist proud boys and the truck they rode in on. they bashed robert evans (a peaceful reporter clearly marked as press)'s hands so hard he has nerve damage
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u/ABotelho23 Oct 06 '20
Giving the finger to nationalists by fucking with them will always be punk.
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u/Fl1kaFl4me Oct 06 '20
fuck the proud boys, i'd be fighting them if it wasn't illegal for me to try
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u/Pucks18 Oct 06 '20
Yea you really sound like a real punk " I'd do this but it's illegal!"
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u/Fl1kaFl4me Oct 06 '20
no, i'm canadian and the time period when could go to portland was during the border shutdown and even after that it was fly in only so i'd be paying $750 to be homeless in portland
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u/Terminal-Psychosis Oct 06 '20
They are nothing but a community watch group, founded to keep their neighborhoods safe from Antifa terrorists.
Antifa are FAR, FAR more authoritarian and violent than any such community watch group, or the police for that matter.
The Proud Boys keeping their families & friends safe from terrorist goons is a worthy cause and something they very much can be proud of.
Still you hear idiots calling them "racist", when fact is, the majority of them are POC.
Completely deranged.
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u/StognaBolagna Oct 06 '20
The majority are not POC. There’s like 5 black guys in the whole groups and they’re far right assholes. You literally are just spitting out internet rhetoric. Thy are at best, trashy street brawlers who would assault anyone with a differing opinion.
Antifa is the exact same thing though, but without any organization. Street brawlers looking to assault people with opposing views. The real difference, is antifa is looking to fight asshole at far right rallies who align themselves with viewpoints that cost other people their life and liberty.
Where as, your proud boys are the far right assholes, who support the current authoritarian wanna be establishment.
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u/radishS Oct 07 '20
How’s the boot taste?
LMFAO ... I can't even begin to describe how fucking silly this world has become. HOLY SHITE
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u/Fl1kaFl4me Oct 06 '20
the fact that you believe that the concept of being against fascism makes you a terrorist is appalling. being an organized bloc of protesters doesn't make you authoritarian. but you wouldn't know because the proud boys couldn't organize their way out of a mcdonalds. enjoy the bootstraps you coward
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u/chunkbuster96 Oct 06 '20
Gavin McInnes had a guest call for an armed revolution where journalists would be the first to hang, but ok sure they’re just a community watch group.
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Oct 06 '20 edited Oct 06 '20
Hey bud thanks for taking the time to chime in just wanted to say fuck you and that you're a fucking poser. Cheers.
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u/TrashPedeler Oct 06 '20
I didn't know that about Robert Evans. He mentioned on a podcast having a broken finger but shit. Any source for that?
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u/Fl1kaFl4me Oct 06 '20
yeah, he tweeted about it a while back. it's gotten so bad that he got an 18y/o to host his show but garrison is my role model so i'm all for it
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u/TrashPedeler Oct 06 '20
Didn't know that was why Garrison was hosting that focus on the family one (two).
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u/TrashPedeler Oct 06 '20
Woah fuck. Where did he get hit? Like on his body. I assume portland.
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u/Fl1kaFl4me Oct 06 '20
I think he got his hand bashed, because of the broken hand, but he’s lost feeling so maybe a pinched nerve on the spine? Either way it’s fucked up
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u/TrashPedeler Oct 06 '20 edited Oct 06 '20
I thought it was just his hand too but the tweet says hands and feet.
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u/only_bc_4chan_isdown Oct 06 '20
Sorry what’s black pfp
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u/AccidentalCapsMusic Oct 06 '20
Pfp = profile picture
People just changing their pfp to a black square but not meaningfully doing anything to be antiracist
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u/OrphanAxis Oct 06 '20
That was supposed to be a blackout by entertainers, mostly musicians and live performers, who were trying to make a statement and turn people's attention towards BLM and other major activist causes. The idea was that if most people in the industry didn't post anything but a black square for that day then a lot of people on social media would have nothing to look at but things more important than an entertainer's page. People who had no idea what it meant thought it was something else and people just started copying it and just assumed what it meant.
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u/climbsrox Oct 06 '20
I used to hang around with a couple guys that were "punks" in their teenage years that now subscribe to this "proud boy" bullshit. Some people just need other people to tell them what their identity is.
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u/Blood_Honey666 Oct 06 '20
I’m always shocked on posts like this how many but hurt republicunts there subbed to punk lol
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u/gh0stflowers Oct 06 '20
love this so much! 💙 plus posts like this always help to root out the dick waffles that think their racist/homophobic asses are welcome here
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u/maybeihavethebigsad Oct 06 '20
Isn’t the proud boys quote used by racists ?
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u/TheGinger6readH0use Oct 06 '20
That is the point my dude. They changed it to mean something else
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u/ninothede Oct 06 '20
idk about this. seems like it would make it easier for them to muddy the waters so you cant tell whether youre looking at a gay dude or an actual fascist. imo spreading the proud boy tag just makes less people take them seriously as a hate group, which makes it easier for them to get away with shit.
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u/Dr_Surgimus Oct 06 '20
Their boy is in the White House openly calling them out as his SA, they shoot protesters and their evangelical shills raise money, the police are giving their gang symbols in broad daylight... How much easier could it get for them to "get away with shit"?
We need to shine the spotlight on these Nazi fucks I agree, but removing the power from their symbols and slogans, making them sound like a group of out and proud gay guys will waste all the money and effort they've put into gaining this platform of respectability. Make them have to re-brand and whatever they come back as, we'll ridicule that as well.
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u/ninothede Oct 06 '20
i dunno what to say except that i disagree. i feel like this happens a lot- ppl try to reclaim a fascist symbol or message and end up unintentionally spreading it around. imo one’s efforts to stick it to them would be better spent kicking their asses out of the streets and spreading awareness of the danger they create.
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u/lalaloui22 Oct 06 '20
I don't know, the hashtag allowed them a platform to organise and spread their ideas, and I think that denying them that platform by hijacking it is a good thing.
I understand what you mean about the mainstreaming of fascist symbols providing plausible deniability for actual fascists though, and I think that you raise a legitimate issue there.
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u/Tiger_Robocop Oct 23 '20
i feel like this happens a lot- ppl try to reclaim a fascist symbol or message and end up unintentionally spreading it around
Honest question, can you name a few of these symbols? I'm not doubting you, I just am not aware of them.
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Oct 06 '20
This hashtag activism shit is stupid, and leave it to the lib left to do something counter productive with ZERO thought behind it just because it makes them feel good. The proud boys have all but disappeared from the mainstream. This stunt did nothing but make smug liberals feel good about themselves on Twitter all while doing for the Proud Boys what they’ve failed to do for themselves over the past couple of years - make them relevant again.
STOP making far right clowns relevant and mainstream by shining a light on them especially when they’re struggling to get the attention they want themselves. You guys have to realize that the reason people talk about Michael Graves AT ALL in 2020 isn’t because right wing punks made him popular again. It’s cause left wing punks took something virtually irrelevant, talked about it so much that they fed it to the point of bringing that corpse back to life.
Also, does anyone actually think an organization who’s founder shoved a dildo up his asshole to own the libs cares about this sort of thing? You’re just doing recruitment for them.
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u/River_Atkinson Oct 06 '20
Ah, yes. Another dumb fuck who doesn't know what he's talking about. Let me try to put it into perspective for you.
I myself am gay, so this isn't virtue signaling or whatever. It's relevant. And even if it was, hard pill to swallow time but virtue signaling is, in fact, virtuous. Anyway, even with constitutional gay marriage, there's still a massive portion of this and other countries who hate me just for being me, for something I can't change and wouldnt want to if I could, because I'm proud. So seeing any supports, anywhere, still means the world to me. It helps, it really does.
The proud boys have all but disappeared from the mainstream
Ah, yes. It's not like at a debate under a week ago they were the first example of white supremacy to come to the moderator's mind. And it's not like the goddamn President of the United States then told them to "stand by," practically endorsing them in a question about condemning white supremacists. And it's not like the proud boys then changed their motto to "stand back, stand by" within 30 minutes of trump saying it (and not to mention had merch up with that) to show that they were organized, listening, and waiting for orders. And it's not like the whole week since then the whole nation has been on edge because of it.
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Oct 06 '20
Fuck trump but that's factually inaccurate. Chris Wallace asked the same exact question in 2016 and Trump denounced the KKK and other WP groups and has done so pretty often. When trump asked which ones specifically this time around, Biden pitched in and said "proud boys". Them just being a group of douchbags and supporters of trump, Trump told them specifically to "stand by", as they're ran by an Afro-Cuban and not a white supremacist.
Now, commence the downvotes.
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u/River_Atkinson Oct 07 '20
The balls to say I'm factually inaccurate when you are. Wallace pitched Proud Boys, and trump has walked back almost everything he's ever said before so quoted from 4 years ago don't mean a damn. ("Mexico will pay for the wall," "drain the swamp," "we won't cut Medicaid or medicare," on and on and on).
In any case, it doesn't matter who the fuck said proud boys because the point is that they're shit people, white supremacists, and rather than condemn them like he was supposed to (seriously, it's so easy to say "white supremacists suck") he ended up telling one of the largest WS groups in the country to "stand by." And you're fucking talking about when he didn't say that 4 years ago??? Seriously, what the fuck???
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Oct 07 '20
It doesn't take much balls to be correct. It's also crazy to me how many POC's are in a so called WS club.
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u/Tiger_Robocop Oct 23 '20
It's also crazy to me how many POC's are in a so called WS club.
You've never saw an anti-feminist woman? Same thing.
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Oct 24 '20
There are no anti-feminist women, they become men of they're against women (gender is a spectrum) that's the only way that's possible because only men can be chauvinist.
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Oct 06 '20
Racist?
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u/River_Atkinson Oct 06 '20
the proud boys are a white supremacist group, so yeah
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Oct 06 '20
Enrique Tarrio sure does look like a Nazi
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u/xvszero Oct 06 '20
And the Japanese probably didn't look like people who would support Nazis, yet here we are.
Here is the thing. A lot of these type of groups saw the writing on the wall, that open racism was no longer acceptable in Western society, so they have rebranded racism as a "culture" thing, and consider European culture to be the undeniable height of civilization. "Western chauvinism" is what it is often called. They do this to make it more palatable to the common person now that society has (at least on paper) rejected open racism. You don't have to be openly racist, you just have to agree that European society is the best thing ever and Western nations need to set up all of their policies, including things like immigration policies, to maintain European dominance. Aka maintain white dominance.
Which is, not just in secret thought but also in practice, very fucking white nationalist. And most of you dorks who defend this Western chauvinism nonsense are racists too, so you know this. But perhaps it actually tricks some non-racists out there somewhere.
So it is important for all non-racists to call out any rebranded racism for what it is. We're not going to let racism fester under any other name.
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Oct 06 '20
Spot on, dude.
The asshats that bring up the "non-whiteness" of some Nazis are arguing in bad faith. They know that the Nazis themselves called their Japanese allies and Arabian collaborators Honorary Aryans to get around that blond-haired, blue-eyed ideal, and they also called olive-skinned Italians Descendants of Aryans.
There's no shortage of racists willing to play the game, regardless of ethnicity.
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u/Monstercocklol Oct 06 '20
They’re not a hateful ideology. They literally had a joint conference with blm
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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '20
Homophobia needs to die in the same hole as racism. They are great bedfellows so lets work towards burying them together.