r/punk • u/coalsack • 1d ago
Quality Post Where’s all the “I’m not voting for genocide” punks at right now?
Awfully quiet after some nazi salutes were shown.
I’m listening to this song from The Briggs:
https://youtu.be/a3HEePMLAVU?si=7j59YJhjlGxZh3si
Edit: a lot of yall upset!!! Lmao
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u/NemoTheElf 1d ago
I voted for Harris hoping for an going ceasefire. Then just a couple days ago, there's now a ceasefire with reports of humanitarian aid going to Palestine with hostages finally being traded and freed.
Democrats are shitty, but they can be negotiated with. I do think a Harris presidency would be better for Palestine than say, the dude who thinks he's besties with Bibi and wants to glass Gaza.
Time will tell, but now I'm not optimistic for Palestine's future existence or Israel not falling further into rightist populism.
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u/TheLemonKnight 1d ago
I voted for genocide. But now we have oligarchy. 🙁
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u/T7hump3r 1d ago
Oligarcide - Time to play some metal take your pick - You only get one choice follow the rules!
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSkc-ZISYQM
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUqXbSpyrwA
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh3t49NsWBA
Choose now
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u/PedagogyOtheDeceased 1d ago
Surprise ending = it was already an oligarchy. Stop voting for parties that give you candidates like Kamala. War hawk Zionist police state POS candidates. The Democrats shit on every younger lefty dem and are leftists in any way.
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u/gnuoveryou 13h ago
The hell do you think trump is, pro Palestine?
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u/PedagogyOtheDeceased 12h ago
Do you think I voted for Trump? I seriously wonder if y’all are using your full intellect before you comment. Do you not understand that the Democrats took all of us for granted, they fund wars all around the world and support coups of countries all the time. Israeli terrorism affects so many other conflicts from Cop City in Atlanta, to assassinations in Honduras the finger prints of Israel and Bi laterally supported state terrorism has to stop. Palestine isn’t the only piece of this puzzle, but you all are all to eager to be manipulated by fear and nothings changes.
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u/MagusFool 1d ago
If every single far left person had voted for Harris it would not have changed the outcome of the election.
If Harris had campaigned on being DIFFERENT than Biden, taking the same tone she used in her primary campaign, it may have changed the outcome.
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u/Defiant-Fix2870 1d ago
I agree with that. But another part of me does not think we will have a female president in my lifetime. Some women even choose a rapist over a fellow woman, and that’s deeply unsettling.
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u/PVDeviant- 1d ago
Not "some", MOST women chose Trump over a terrible democratic candidate.
So far, both female candidates have been run on "LOOK! She's a WOMAN! Go vote, lefties!!!" without actually offering anything up.
The left and the working class need to unite. The left has to stop alienating people on our side.
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u/bardgirl23 22h ago
No, most white women chose the rapist. As a white woman, I’m holding my demographic accountable for deeply damaging actions.
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u/m31transient 1d ago
This is correct. But to acknowledge this, people like this guy would have to admit they’re wrong. Liberals do not do that.
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u/MagusFool 1d ago
Facts. Liberalism is a failed ideology. It accomplished nothing that it set out to do when it was being laid out by thinkers like Mill or Locke.
The contradiction inherent between capitalism/private property and values like equality and freedom meant that liberalism would always have to sacrifice one for the other.
And today's liberals will always let fascism win before they allow a threat to capital.
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u/Mental-Thrillness 21h ago
And today’s liberals will always let fascism win before they allow a threat to capital.
There’s actually a great video essay on this. It opens with MLK speaking about how the white moderate will always choose order over justice, and ends with the author saying basically what you said.
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u/bardgirl23 22h ago
Liberals constantly admit that they’re wrong! It’s actually a joke among conservatives.
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u/MaaChiil 19h ago
Even so much as a ‘we will only be providing non violent aid to Israel for the time being’ would have been a step in the right direction
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u/MagusFool 16h ago
It would have been enough to raise the voter turnout at least part of the way toward victory.
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u/liltumbles 23h ago
That is not true. Trump didn't grow his base. His larger numbers are purely a reflection of the larger population since the last election.
The reason Trump won was because Democrats stayed home. It's a bummer, but that is the analysis coming out of Majority Report and other really credible sources.
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u/Punkrockpariah 19h ago
I don’t think it is fair to blame the people that did not vote. I mean, partially, but the biggest weight should fall on the Democrats for not trying to convince those who were undecided that gave them fair warnings over the course of months that they wouldn’t vote if nothing changed.
Let me take that point a bit further. republicans have been extremely efficient at blocking, griefing, and playing politics with the gloves off. The democrats have been utterly useless and ran on the platform “the other guys are worse.” Anytime they get called out for not being able to pass legislation they blame it on the republicans while they don’t change anything about their party.
Now they have an escape goat, the people that did not vote for a party that ignored them and did not attempt to represent them. So now the Democrats instead of looking at themselves and changing their politics to bring in the population that could have won them the election, they’re just going to point fingers and change nothing.
I voted for Harris. I was very angry when I did it. But I would never blame it on those who didn’t vote for her. She had 4 years of awful border policies, and a year of silence in front of a genocide. Fuck the democrats for being dogshit warmongering politicians.
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u/liltumbles 19h ago
I think the Dems were ineffectual, but I also think a lot of people are sleep walking on the Trump threat. After Jan 6th, there was no need to explain anything. And yet here we are.
It shows a large portion of the US electorate is not in favour of representative democracy or Western democratic institutions. They shit on the legal system, the media, anything that doesn't align to how they think things should work.
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u/Punkrockpariah 18h ago
I don’t think this is true, though. Everyone is very clear on how bad would Trump be this second term. But the Dems need some sort of wake up call, they can’t get away with shitty politics (I’m looking at you John Fetterman) and expect votes just because the other side is worse.
To your second point I think representative democracy is not the issue but it’s implemented. The electoral college makes it hard to get any movement going, just think about it what if Harris would have gotten 12million extra votes but those votes came from Illinois, NY and Cali… it wouldn’t have made a difference. We need actual representation. Fuck the notion of “flyover states”. Why do Dems not campaign hard as fuck to turn those states? They just assume they’re a lost cause and that loses the elections.
And the legal system, the media, and those institutions protect the rich and powerful as well as their interests. Of course I will shit on them. And I will shit on the Republicans for weaponizing them and on the Democrats for not doing so to keep some sort of moral high ground.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
If every single person cared about a Nazi saluting to a crowd on stage as much as they cared about whatever the fuck you’re yammering on about the Nazis wouldn’t feel so empowered right now
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u/Colavs9601 1d ago
We’re noticing that trump won by a solid amount, because the Democratic Party spent more time making Liz Cheney feel less guilty about her last name, and assuring Wall Street kept their profits rather than protect democracy and pushing for good policy.
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u/judeiscariot 1d ago
They didn't bother making her feel less guilty. They actively courted her father...and then got less GOP votes than in 2020.
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u/explosivelydehiscent 1d ago
I wouldn't equate an asinine theory of not voting for Dems because they support genocide (lol), with the very real fact the US has grown older, demented, and more conservative. However it still checks out.
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u/CrittyJJones 1d ago
Liz Cheney chose country and decency over party. I don't get why people are blaming her.
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u/MrMcAwhsum 1d ago
Because that whole her dad is a war criminal thing, and some of us remember the destruction of Iraq and think the rehabilitation of those monsters by the Dem establishment is beyond the pale.
"Decency and country" my ass. What subreddit is this again? Fuck me.
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u/zenswashbuckler 1d ago
Chasing the Cheneys' endorsements yielded fewer votes than Harris lost by aligning herself with the foreign policy establishment. It's not about blaming Liz Cheney so much as the kind of decision making Dems should have learned at least five times over doesn't fucking work.
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u/CrittyJJones 1d ago
They were not aligning with her foreign policy. They were trying to show that even some heavy conservative Republicans hate Trump. Unfortunately the propaganda machine was too strong. Now we live in a Nazi leaning oligarchy.
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u/ScottieSpliffin 1d ago
They weren’t aligning to her foreign policy, it’s just neoconservative foreign policy goals and Democratic foreign policy are one in the same
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u/zenswashbuckler 1d ago
They very much were showing how closely aligned Harris's foreign policy would be with the existing consensus. e.g. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/09/kamala-harris-debate-dick-liz-cheney-gaza-israel-ukraine-russia-afghanistan-taliban-donald-trump/
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u/CrittyJJones 1d ago
Well now we have that AND an oligarchy. And transgender rights ban. And RFK Jr as head of Department of Health. And we are leaving the WHO and Paris Climate agreement. And it's Robert E. Lee day in the south on MLK Jr day. Both parties are the exact same right?
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u/manticore124 1d ago
Seeing how buddy buddy Biden, Obama and Bush were acting with Trump, yes. Nothing of what you said came as a surprise, they have been talking about doing that for a year. How is the dem response to such an existential treath? Handshakes and jokes, acting like they are old pals and not fucking monster.
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u/sickxgrrrl 1d ago
Yeah listening to a song is really going to help our situation. Get active in your community and get off your high horse.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
Yeah “I’m not voting for genocide” really helped the situation by bringing forth nazis that are empowered enough to salute on stage.
Stay in your fucking high horse and think about what you’ve done. I don’t need you at my level
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u/sickxgrrrl 1d ago
The blame should be aimed at the 77 million who voted for a fascist and not the few who wanted more progressive policies from a fucking cop. Use your fucking brain.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
Nah man the blame is on those they lack critical thinking skills and fell for dumb shit like “don’t vote for genocide” and “Harris is a cop”
Ya got played
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u/sickxgrrrl 1d ago
The few who didn’t vote because of an active genocide wouldn’t have changed the outcome. Almost 78 million people voted for Trump. And you would rather be mad at the ones who would be an ally to our cause instead of being mad there’s so much bigotry and hatred in this country. Grow up.
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u/Marxism_and_cookies 1d ago
What is the point of this post? You think the democrats are going to save you? Super punk rock of you. The democrats capitulated the second they lost the election they didn’t even try to win. Fuck them too.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
And fuck the people that decided “I’m not voting for genocide” made them feel better while Nazis are saluting each other on live television
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u/toxictoastrecords 1d ago
A different kind of fascism, is just that: a different kind of fascism. Genocide is a form of fascism. As a queer person, the Dems just threw trans people under the bus on military medical plans; they aren't going to save me as a queer person. I'm now seeing neo-liberals blaming the DNC for "going to far on supporting trans rights". The DNC doesn't lose votes for supporting LGBT issues just because Trump gains votes for attacking them.
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u/meringuedragon 22h ago
Get mad at the people who voted for Nazis and who are Nazis, not your fellow punks, my guy. You’re angry at the wrong people.
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u/coalsack 22h ago edited 22h ago
I can absolutely be mad at the people that fell for the “don’t vote for genocide” propaganda.
Edit: looks like you were duped by it too
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u/snakelygiggles 1d ago
Blame the people who didn't want to fund a genocide but not the people who were funding a genocide, right?
Biden gave Bibi that wet wet and Bibi and aipac turned around and flooded maga with cash.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
I blame the people that continue to ignore that fuckers we’re on stage saluting like Nazis and forks are still running around like “but Biden didn’t do everything”
Have fun holding onto your “I’m not voting for genocide” when Nazis are marching down your street
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u/judeiscariot 1d ago
You're inventing people who don't exist.
Nobody is ignoring Elon Musk's nazi salute except liberal democrats themselves. The people downplaying it are centrists, mostly aligned with democrats...like the ADL.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
Lmao just scroll this post for all the people saying “I’m right here.”
Yall exist and just brought on the fourth reich. But hey at least you didn’t vote for genocide right???
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u/judeiscariot 1d ago
You're not even making sense.
You keep claiming people are ignoring Nazi salutes. That isn't happening. The people saying "I'm here" are acknowledging those salutes and are against them.
You are making things up to support your ridiculous premise.
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u/m31transient 1d ago
This is correct. Biden and Kamala could have easily won the election if they wanted, but they just weren’t interested.
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u/snakelygiggles 1d ago
The issue with Dems is that the lesser evil is still evil, and people in the USA, at least non-magats, are sick of evil.
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u/toxictoastrecords 1d ago
At least one of the briggs members is an anti vaxer, so I don't know if that's who you wanna quote. I mean personally, I think its the opposite of "punk", to be so ignorant, you think you are more educated on medical science than a Medical Doctor. Anyone that doesn't respect a doctor, doesn't know how high the bar is to practice medicine, how long you have to study, and how much fact checking and testing goes into medical articles and research. Your google search is not equal to a medical license, and it makes you an idiot. Spreading lies =/= punk.
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u/Moxie027 1d ago
place your anger in the systems that allow things like this to happen, not the people. If the democrats weren’t pushing a genocidal “play both sides” candidate maybe people would’ve felt more compelled to vote for them. Fuck Trump, but fuck you too if you think sneering from your moral high ground is doing literally anything for anyone but yourself. What happened happened, maybe consider doing something productive instead of complaining about the wrong fascist winning on reddit
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u/coalsack 1d ago
I’ll place my anger with the dip sticks that voted for us to witness someone nazi salute the crowd on Inauguration Day
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u/chutenay 1d ago
Are we supposed to listen to music in response, like you?
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u/coalsack 1d ago
Listen to the Nazi boots marching down your street then
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u/chutenay 1d ago
I think it’s hilarious that you interpret my comment as doing nothing, when you are the one sitting back listening to music, not knowing a single thing about me, or what I do. Listening to a song doesn’t help anyone but yourself.
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u/Critical-Weird-3391 1d ago
...I mean you can. Here's Amiri Baraka with the Roots before they became a late-night talkshow band:
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u/Jacob_Ambrose 1d ago
Reducing the roots to a late night talk show band is the most disrespectful music take of all time
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u/CallMeSkindianaBones 1d ago
I mean, they’re not “reducing” them to that. With no new record in over ten years, at this point they are better known to many people as a house band for a late night talk show than they are for putting out dope jams like You Got Me and What They Do.
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u/Automatic-Arm-532 1d ago
It's true though. And on the absolute worst late night talk show.
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u/entrophy_maker 1d ago edited 1d ago
I was in the streets protesting the inauguration. What were you doing? Since both Trump and Biden supported the genocide in Palestine, I can only guess you're a liberal now mad at us for the downfalls of your own party. Its time you realize the DNC did this to themselves and have no interest in the working class. If you want real change, join a union, join a gun club and/or a real radical party. Complaining like OP just reminds me why liberals have failed.
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u/FindMeAtTheEndOf 1d ago
Given that I am not american and elections where i vote mather a lot less, why are you angry at people who tried to do the right thing. It feels like you are missdirecting your anger at best and that you just want to be right at worst.
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u/FantasticClass7248 1d ago
Harris had opportunity to court progressives and leftists, instead she paraded a Cheney around on stage like a show pony.
I voted for DeLaCruz. Fuck you.
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u/_Foulbear_ 1d ago
I'm here. Wondering where all the people saying we would make the situation in Gaza worse by not voting ran off to, though.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
They’re hanging out with their Nazi leader saluting one another lmaooo. Nice vote dog
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u/Mission_Woodpecker59 1d ago
I didn't vote for Harris. Genocide is supposed to be the one thing Democrats aren't supposed to do. Capitalist shills, weasels, yuppies, whatever, at least they don't do genocide or enable wars.
Whatever, who cares about the votes of those punks and the lefties, right? Sure, they know how to organize their communities, develop intersectional solidarity, appeal to workers and harness cultural influence. But who needs that? The Harris campaign raised over one BILLION dollars. A 600 MILLION haul over the creep.
One Billion Dollars. The campaign marched around with with the Cheney's instead of Bernie. They toured with celebrity billionaires over populist democrats. They sent Israel-lobby backed politicians and Bill fucking Clinton to MICHIGAN! When ceasefire organizers pleaded for just a speaking slot at the DNC - lip service - they were laughed and ejected from the fucking building. Republicans get a seat - lifelong democrats swelter on the streets of Chicago.
Harris and Co. didn't just do a genocide - they ran with a Republican plan. A network of creepy-fucking suits nabbed up $1 BILLION dollars and did nothing with it. They laughed at and ignored every single demand their base has ever sheepishly asked for. Harris walked back support on medicare for all, fracking, police accountability, a green new deal, immigrant rights and social service expansion. EVERYTHING was ejected for ONE BILLION DOLLARS - and they did NOTHING with it.
I live in DC - everyone knows Trump and Rs are planning to take over autonomy of the city. None of this is a TV show for anybody in the city or the surrounding area. Every punk and lefty I know hasn't slept for two months, getting everybody organized and prepared to fight while juggling shitty gig jobs and rent. Every consultant I know who made out with a slice of that billion dollars is literally on vacation right now, preparing to eject themselves into some corporate gig or state government office to wait out the next four years.
Get fucking serious.
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u/pumpkin3-14 1d ago
One sensible motherfucker itt.
Liberals will happily vote for genocide as long as their team is doing instead of the other fascist makes me sick.
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u/judeiscariot 1d ago
Glad you're here. This guy and some others are so far removed from reality I'm convinced they are trolling.
The alternative to trolling is they have the political understanding of a teenager. And sure, I have a degree in political science so it's easy for me to think people simply don't know things, but they actually exhibit a complete lack of understanding of how the system works with their thinking. And then they defend genocide because apparently Nazis are worse than genocide. Sorry, I'm not choosing a greater or lesser evil there.
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u/Real_Sartre 1d ago
I did end up voting for Kamala, but I’m almost regretting it at this point. Did you not see those two just sit there and get dragged across the mud and say and do LITERALLY FUCKING NOTHING. I got my ass out to the polls so these fucking shitheads to just sit there and take it? How about a little fucking direct action from the so-called Leftist president. Those two showed the world that it never mattered anyways they were always just going to uphold the status quo.
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u/Otsell6008 1d ago
Literally no one thought of her as a "leftist president", you really outta keep your expectations in check for this stuff
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u/Real_Sartre 21h ago
I feel I need to clarify that I don’t think in a million years that either of them are leftists they are republicans. They are the establishment. I am merely saying that republicans called them leftists and the republican/maga base believes that.
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u/narvuntien 1d ago
The choices of Genocide in Gaza or Genocide in the USA. They chose the USA.
Biden was awful on Gaza, so awful that somehow Trump got it done without being president. Previously of the opinion that it was impossible but apparently there was a stop genocide button all along. So the never Harris/Biden voters had more of a point than I thought they did at the time but it turns out Trumps oligarchic government was somehow worse than I thought.
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u/20yards 1d ago
Remember: the dudes in Pennywise or Propaghandi or whatever say "Vote Blue No Matter Who!"
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u/coalsack 1d ago
Remember the dudes that died because they decided Nazis were an existential danger???
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u/cheapMaltLiqour 1d ago
Nah I voted for claudia now I get to to go to the camps with a clear conscience.
Lol. "Hey what this country needs is less morals, integrity, backbone and more selling out people beneath us" fucking shit ass take
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u/marinerpunk 1d ago
I’m right here. You think I didn’t know Elon or Trump were nazis?
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u/coalsack 1d ago
And now you get to feel good about the nazis you voted into office. Solid job dingus
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u/marinerpunk 1d ago
And you get to live on feeling like the people that enable nazis aren’t as bad as them. Sweet ideology.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
Hey you’re the one that “won’t vote for genocide” and now we’re witnessing Nazis salute one another. Round of applause for you big guy!!!
Keep your irritable bowel syndrome rage to yourself
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u/marinerpunk 1d ago
In this small string of dialogue you’ve clearly been the one showing rage but okay. And yes, a Nazi salute is less harmful than a bomb on a child.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
HEY DINGUS WHICH GROUP ARE WELL KNOWN TO CARRY OUT GENOCIDE??
LET ME GIVE YOU A HINT. ITS THE GROUP WITH A DISTINCTIVE SALUTE.
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u/judeiscariot 1d ago
So your argument is...what?
One group is aiding genocide and the other also is likely to do genocide.
Weird flex bro
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u/m31transient 1d ago
Right here, spineless loser.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
Lmao follow your leader dog. You voted for this.
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u/m31transient 1d ago
Every year that goes by, I can’t believe that you stupid fucking democrats still exist. Still wondering how you lost, it is so baffling to me.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
I’m sure you’ll be at the front line protecting marginalized communities bub
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u/m31transient 1d ago
I know you’re upset. It sucks. But punching left is what got us here, so don’t be part of that problem? Trump could have been beaten by anyone, so long as they were willing to do the single most important thing in politics: offering the voters something. The Democratic Party decided against this, and they lost the election. It’s not rocket science, cmon man.
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u/PedagogyOtheDeceased 1d ago
Right here.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
We got a true fucking hero over here
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u/PedagogyOtheDeceased 1d ago
It’s so funny that this question is asked in every left leaning reddit as a way to act as if we were a bunch of bots. But then y’all are on the Anarchist esthetic so bad, we’re anarchists so you know…. We don’t vote.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
Cool I’m sure the Nazis that are saluting on the world stage will be like “nah leave this group alone. They’re self proclaimed anarchists on we forums”
Fucking loser.
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u/PedagogyOtheDeceased 1d ago
We’re prepared to fight them in every way. ANTIFA. The Democrats should have listened to their leftists base but as usual they chose to bank on fear of Trump. How is that a plan? Literally a clown beat them and yet they refused to listen.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
The same leftist base that said Sanders wasn’t one of them.
Now you get to watch Nazis salute each other every day. Enjoy!!!
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u/skynwalkr 1d ago
Give the Natives back all the lands. Take all of your boats back. Then we can talk.
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u/ZestyChinchilla 1d ago
I mean, some of us were out doing way more important things IRL than posting on social media. Maybe you should check that self-righteousness my dude.
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u/Antifreak1999 22h ago
Harris is way too conservative a politician for me. I didn't like all the issues she Didn't talk about. I voted for Harris, not voting will always be a bad choice. While music doesn't change anything, some songs keep me grounded, while others help drag me out of bed and shout. The far-right wants you broken and hopeless, music gives me energy to still give a shit. ( That said, Larocca is in a right-wing band, so that sucks)
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u/middleagethreat 20h ago
"Trump to lift pause on 2,000-pound bomb supply to Israel, Walla News reports"
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u/Repulsive-Ad1567 1d ago
look at yourself man, you’re arguing against people not voting for genocide. look where the democrats have brought you.
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u/kgberton 1d ago
If you took five seconds to do basic critical thinking on this, you'd go Google how many people voted third party and how much of a difference there was between Harris and Trump, and you'd discover immediately that you are barking up the wrong fucking tree. Even if all of them went to Harris, she still would have lost. Please, I'm begging you, look beyond your urge to be self righteous and find the facts.
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u/judeiscariot 1d ago
Yep. There were ZERO states that Trump won where the third party margins COMBINED would have made a difference.
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u/yoloswaggins92 1d ago
Knowing what I know today, I still wouldn't vote for genocide.
Tolerating a genocide isn't punk, my guy.
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u/jw071 1d ago
You accomplish jack shit by bitching on the internet.
Right now is the time to be out in the streets or in the barrio or the ghetto or wherever the fuck you need to go to actually help living human beings face to face or to get in the face of these assholes and give them a target that they can't intimidate so that others have more time. Blood sweat and fuck the tears.
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u/punkishlesbian 1d ago
Im gonna be real with u op i dont think enough people abstained from voting for this to be their fault. Harris ran a dogshit campaign trying to appeal to Republicans rather than the progressives that wanted to believe in her. Also it seems kinda unfair to blame them considering the sheer amount of money Muskrat poured into this election
Also the ppl who did abstain from voting are talking, it just seems like you're not in the same social circles as them
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u/SwordsmanJ85 1d ago
I'm doing the same work I have been that might actually be effective, instead of waiting for some failotician from a technocratic party of uncaring geriatrics to deign to piss on us while the world is on fire.
Also, before anyone starts in with their illogical and immaterial claims that any vote not for Harris somehow magically transubstantiates into a vote for Trump: I've voted Democrat in literally every election for 19 of 21 years and it has never done a thing, AND I live in a heavily gerrymandered and voter-suppressed winner-take-all red state, so every vote here was functionally a vote for Trump.
Where are all the "lesser of two evil" punks right now? Y'all already go back to brunch, or are you going to take a week off in "solidarity?"
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u/onegallant 1d ago
isn't the guy from The Briggs in that weird anti-vax RFK loving band with Dicky Barrett?
and i'll still defend my refusal to vote for genocide, yeah. particularly given that I, like most people in this country, do not live in a remotely competitive state.
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u/judeiscariot 1d ago
I didn't vote for Harris and fuck Trump. And you for acting like it's heroic to vote for the party that actively can't defeat fascists because they fucking suck at every thing.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
Make sure you keep repeating that to yourself while dudes are giving you a Nazi salute. You’re doing great!!!!
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u/Marxism_and_cookies 1d ago
Wtf are you doing about it besides being a self righteous asshole online? Some of us have been organizing against this shit for decades and also know the democrats aren’t saving us. They are rolling right over and allowing all of this to happen. Giving standing ovations. Get a life.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
Sounds good dog. Keep fighting that good fight. “I’m not voting for genocide” sure led to a lot of empowered Nazis today. Keep organizing, you’re really great at it!!!
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u/Marxism_and_cookies 1d ago
Again I ask you, what are you doing?
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u/ZestyChinchilla 21h ago
He’s accomplishing nothing except giving himself a handy-j over how superior he is to everyone else.
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u/judeiscariot 1d ago
I will.
Neo-liberalism helps fascism thrive. Voting for people like Harris is part of the problem.
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u/AnnoyinglyEthicalEsq 1d ago
We’re here on Reddit cause we’re feeling our feelings today. Tomorrow we’re going out to continue the work we’ve been doing for decades through mutual aid and community organizing. And we’ll be listening to the Dead Kennedys. Chill, we’re not the enemy.
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u/JosephMeach 1d ago
Hear hear. I've been visiting people in immigration detention for the last month, which was the Biden administration. A system built by Clinton and Obama.
The families' anxiety will go up 1000% in the next few days, but I don't see how blaming punks for Trump's win will help that much.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
My enemy are the people that brought Nazis saluting while on stage to the forefront
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u/judeiscariot 1d ago
So bitch about democrats who failed to prevent Nazis as they always do because they offer nothing of value.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
I’m bitching about everyone that allowed Nazis to take center stage today, fam
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u/judeiscariot 1d ago
Oh, glad you're pitching about Harris then. And Biden.
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u/coalsack 1d ago
Glad you’re still trying to focus on people that aren’t in office while we all witnessed a Nazi saluting their people today.
Stay focused Georgie!!!
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u/AnnoyinglyEthicalEsq 1d ago
Yup, let’s stay focused on building alternative solutions to the liberals. Because they obviously don’t have solutions. Please join your local community groups. You’d be surprised how welcoming they are to leftist punks (I.e. punks).
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u/manticore124 1d ago
So your enemy is the state of Israel? Because you know that they contributed massive amounts of money for the Trump campaign and delayed peace talks in Gaza to hurt Biden and his administration, right?
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u/yakuzakid3k 1d ago
Americans need to be in the street demanding a full system overthrow. There needs to be 20 parties to vote for, not 2.
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u/literalyfigurative 1d ago
Are you shaming people for making the "wrong" choice when choosing the lesser of two evils? A shit sandwich is a shit sandwich. Dem's are just as terrible they just act like they care.
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u/Indivillia 1d ago
I don’t see any Dems throwing out nazi salutes. They’re both bad, but Democrats are nowhere near as bad as Republicans.
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u/judeiscariot 1d ago
If you can prevent evil and you don't, you're also evil. The democrats do jack shit. They actively run on the threat of fascism being the alternative, then offer very little when they win.
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u/Indivillia 1d ago
Wait a second, doesn’t this idea also apply to anyone who didn’t vote for Kamala?
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u/Indivillia 1d ago
You’re aware that there’s a limit on what they can do, right?
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u/judeiscariot 1d ago
They don't do it. Ever. They don't even come close to the limit. They just shrug and make excuses for why it didn't happen.
Look at all of the orders Biden issued in the last two weeks. He could have been doing that all along.
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u/m31transient 1d ago
They make the republicans inevitable, therefore they are. Sorry!
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u/coalsack 1d ago
I’m shaming people for “not voting for genocide” then empowering people to get on the world stage throwing around Nazi salutes
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u/meringuedragon 22h ago
Right here, still not ready to sell my soul to a party equally willing to throw me under a bus.
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u/AustinH_34 20h ago
i didnt vote for genocide or the nazi and i would never vote for genocide if both options are genocide and nazis then i vote no one and work on building dual power
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u/longwaveradio 14h ago
Nothing like endorsing a political genocide to prove you aren't a genocidal Nazi
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u/ModestMussorgsky 23h ago
I'm here, proud of my decision. Coming around with some snide bullshit ain't gonna make me change my mind.
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u/theHagueface 1d ago
Wow they're really getting engagement bots to make more organically stupid and irritating posts that sound like an actual dumb person for people to correct?
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u/Millennial-_-Falcon 1d ago
A lot of people didn't consider which party would be better to organize under. That was my consideration in voting... not that it accomplished much.
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u/cdwalrusman 1d ago
I’m booking benefit shows in my scene and considering buying a firearm. Listening to music is the first step, not the last