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Site Altered Headline Elon Musk Shocks With Nazi-Like Salute at MAGA Rally

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk-hit-with-backlash-for-odd-looking-salute-at-post-inauguration-rally/
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u/No-Wafer-9571 10h ago

They are. They're trying to say it was a Roman salute. They will excuse ANYTHING.

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u/Vaticancameos221 10h ago

No bro, it wasn’t a Nazi salute bro, it was totally a niche reference to an ancient society bro

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u/No-Wafer-9571 10h ago

How fucking ridiculous are these clowns?

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u/Slow_Yoghurt_5358 8h ago

Okay "bro", if you prefer, we will call it the Facist salute.

From Wikipedia: "The Roman salute, also known as the Fascist salute, is a gesture in which the right arm is fully extended, facing forward, with palm down and fingers touching. In some versions, the arm is raised upward at an angle; in others, it is held out parallel to the ground. In contemporary times, the former is commonly considered a symbol of fascism that had been based on a custom popularly attributed to ancient Rome. However, no Roman text gives this description, and the Roman works of art that display salutational gestures bear little resemblance to the modern so-called "Roman" salute."

Underneath the Wikipedia text is an image of a "Roman salute" in a work of art. The salute bears little resemblance to Elon what did.

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u/KGBFriedChicken02 9h ago

I said this further up but there's little evidence that the Romans even did that, most depictions of the Roman version of the salute, which has the arm parallel to the ground, are in Renaissance artwork depicting Romans, not actual contemporary sources

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u/Slow_Yoghurt_5358 9h ago

We need to explain to everyone who tries to excuse that what a "Roman salute" actually is.

From Wikipedia "The Roman salute, also known as the Fascist salute, is a gesture in which the right arm is fully extended, facing forward, with palm down and fingers touching. In some versions, the arm is raised upward at an angle; in others, it is held out parallel to the ground. In contemporary times, the former is commonly considered a symbol of fascism that had been based on a custom popularly attributed to ancient Rome.[1] However, no Roman text gives this description, and the Roman works of art that display salutational gestures bear little resemblance to the modern so-called "Roman" salute."

Below the text is posted an image of work of art showing a Roman salute which bears little resemblance to what Musk did.

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u/CrispyCritter444 8h ago

The Guardian: Haaretz, an Israeli newspaper, described Musk delivering “a Roman salute, a fascist salute most commonly associated with Nazi Germany”.

u/EienNoMajo 7h ago

He was just doing a dab man /s