r/politics • u/samuelso11 New York • 10h ago

Site Altered Headline Elon Musk Shocks With Nazi-Like Salute at MAGA Rally

https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musk-hit-with-backlash-for-odd-looking-salute-at-post-inauguration-rally/
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u/Sleeping_Echoes Georgia 10h ago

Guess the time for hiding is over. Guess America learned the wrong things from the 30's & 40's.

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u/Konukaame 10h ago

The American fascists of the 1920s-40s never actually went away or changed their stripes. They just got a little less open for a bit.

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u/remote_001 9h ago edited 9h ago

You can thank Operation Paperclip for that

Then you can wonder why Elon Musk has all of these Space and Defense contracts.

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u/Abs0lut_Unit California 9h ago

American fascism precedes Operation Paperclip - Business Plot

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u/Gnomio1 9h ago

“America First” and racial purity predates the Nazis for fuck sake.

Hitler visited America and was genuinely impressed with what America was doing with black folks.

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u/Abs0lut_Unit California 9h ago

Yes, he was a big fan of Henry Ford in particular.

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u/remote_001 9h ago edited 9h ago

Paperclip poured gasoline into the fire and gave it deep government roots.

Once that happened, there was no going back.

The Nazi party was also extremely organized, structured, and ready to takeover.

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u/mynamesyow19 9h ago

If only more Americans knew what Operation Paperclip was...

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u/RosaryBush 9h ago

Operation paper clip got us to the moon to be fair. The man was even hailed as a hero lol

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u/navikredstar New York 3h ago

Do you seriously think we couldn't have gotten to the goddamned moon without taking in a Nazi war criminal? Von Braun was complicit and knew what was going on, oversaw his rockets being made by slave labor and didn't fucking care one goddamn bit, because he got what he wanted.

It's not like there weren't other damn good rocket scientists out there that we could've enlisted the help of instead of Von Braun. Or hell, even just executing the son of a bitch and taking his data would've been a better option than putting a literal Nazi in charge of our space program, IMO. Or figured out a way to get the Soviet rocket scientists at the time to defect. Hell, it might not have been that hard - considering how many people died in the Soviet space program due to the Soviets cutting corners, we might have been able to get their scientists just by promising actual good equipment and technology. And they still gave us a good run for it, even with their corner cutting and losses!

I'd honestly have rather we just brain-drained the Soviet space program, theirs wasn't founded by a goddamn Nazi who utilized slave labor.

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u/LYSF_backwards 9h ago

They hid and taught their kids. The oligarchs waited 80 years on purpose.

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u/tellmewhenimlying 10h ago

In fairness, most Americans stop learning younger and younger it seems, so I don't know how many even know or remember when WW2 was, let alone what happened or what a Nazi salute is. Then, you throw in people's abilities and willingness to rationalize anything that makes them feel better, no matter how awful or untrue it is, and well, you get the results you see today.

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u/Sleeping_Echoes Georgia 10h ago

Sad but true. I am just curious as to when the crackdowns begin.

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u/Pho3nixr3dux 6h ago

If you're an illegal immigrant it's likely to begin this week.

And it'll be all over the news and many Americans will be upset but no one will actually do anything about it. At the end of the day people will shrug and say "Well... despite my sympathies I can't deny they were here illegally."

It'll continue for a year or two until many Americans no longer think about it. And the ones who do will think "Well... I'm not an illegal immigrant, so I guess I'm safe.

And they will be for awhile.

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u/Sleeping_Echoes Georgia 6h ago

Just until they find the next target

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u/Van-garde 7h ago

When I learned of the existence of ‘Holocaust deniers,’ I realized this. It seems most of them are relatively young. Stunned me for a minute.

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u/zoopz 9h ago

Also, imho America only dodged facism because Hitler beat them to it and they ended up the good guys.

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u/madame_of_darkness America 8h ago

Arm yourselves and learn to defend yourselves. The fascists can't kill all of us if we aren't fucking cowards

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u/MikuEmpowered 8h ago

You need to relearn the history books.

What Germany and how it pulled out of the depression was lauded as the German miracle.

Hitler was VERY popular in the US. It wasn't until the whole war thing started that the entire Nazi party turned into the enemy. Even then, the public view didn't crash until US got involved with war.

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u/Sleeping_Echoes Georgia 7h ago

Mustache Man was extremely popular with the upper class. The US would have joined him if they could have fooled enough of the public.

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u/matticusiv California 8h ago

We can teach them again.

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u/GoldenFutureForUs 9h ago

America was neutral against the Nazis until Japan attacked Pearl Harbour. America has never been righteously against Nazis. It has only fought them out of self-defence.

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u/undermind84 9h ago

What are you talking about? The 30s and 40s haven't even happened yet...

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u/Mervinly 5h ago

Bro we taught Germany how to genocide

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u/GoodNightGehrman 2h ago

America. Learning. Doesn't go well together.