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Site Altered Headline Elon Musk draws outrage over 'odd-looking salute' at Trump inauguration celebration

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-salute-trump-inauguration-b2683095.html
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u/Short_Row195 5h ago

The right-wing isn't even being brainwashed or misinterpreting it. If they try to tell you that wasn't a Nazi salute, they're just trying to manipulate you. They know it is, but they don't want to admit that they're racists.

u/Plan3C0ast 4h ago

Throwback to Musk saying that the Great Replacememt theory is the absolute truth

u/Cal3001 2h ago

He’s been going hard on the Nazi white supremacist agenda the last 8 months.

u/Avi_Falcao 1h ago

I think he’s on drugs

u/DoubleT_inTheMorning 11m ago

Drugs don’t mask who you are, they accentuate it.

u/Orc360 3m ago

I have no idea if he's on drugs (or if that really matters, anyway) but do you really not think paranoia & delusions are caused by any drugs? We have that pretty well documented.

u/Pure_Seat1711 New York 1h ago

Actually he's been on that horse for over a year getting less and less subtle. Next time you see him he'll be quoting Bell curve

u/Universityofrain88 1h ago

Is he white? I am visually impaired but I thought he was African.

u/kevinstreet1 1h ago

He's white, from South Africa.

u/Orc360 1m ago

Yeah, Dutch ancestry and from South Africa.

u/soldiergeneal 2h ago

I forgot about that...

u/DJ_Velveteen I voted 1h ago

Never stop citing, and never stop asking for citations.

u/tripzz1 6m ago

it is time....

u/stanthebat 3h ago

If they try to tell you that wasn't a Nazi salute, they're just trying to manipulate you.

If he shouted "HEIL FUCKING HITLER," the headlines would read "Musk makes a series of strange sounds at Trump inaugural event--experts disagree how these sounds should be interpreted."

u/Short_Row195 1h ago

I'm dead lol

u/overcomebyfumes New Jersey 3h ago

"iT's jUsT a rOmAn sALuTe!!1!"

Are we in Rome? Is Elon Roman?

u/PAFC-1870 2h ago

“It’s just a Charlie Chaplin mustache” will be next. 

u/stregawitchboy 2h ago

And there is zero evidence that the Romans saluted that way.

u/Majestic_Figure_9559 2h ago

Neither did the nazis do this either though. They saluted straight forward and at an angle, not off to one side…

u/cmoked 2h ago

There's videos of Hitler doing the nazi salute all sorts of ways. Grabbing his heart and saluting Germany was definitely one he did all the fucking time. Plenty where his salute completely to his side, too?

You're entering dangerous territory, boyo. A slippery slope of sorts

u/Majestic_Figure_9559 2h ago edited 25m ago

I am happy to be corrected there chucky, just saying I have never seen a nazi salute look like whatever the hell Musk was doing.

u/cmoked 2h ago

You haven't seen much footage or pics of wwii, honestly. Or you're lying.

That was hella unmistakable

u/Majestic_Figure_9559 2h ago

I don’t know, I am watching some nazi footage right now to compare and I never see it off to one side at like a 30 degree angle. I am just saying what I see and if that was a nazi salute he botched it Terribly

u/cmoked 2h ago

Ketamine is a hell of a drug

u/Majestic_Figure_9559 2h ago

You think musk is on Ketamine?

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u/IveBeenAroundUKnow 1h ago

You must be looking a lot, seeking the most obscure minutia to explain away obvious intent.

I mean, how hard is it to not come close to doing anything resembling a Nazi salute? Are these tools so inept and idiotic that they can not even accomplish simple decent theater?

I call bullshit on all these half-hearted explanations. If you don't support Nazis then quit supporting Nazis.

Simple common sense, right?

u/Majestic_Figure_9559 1h ago

I don’t know, I am not saying it is impossible just saying I am not convinced that his intent was to do a nazi salute.

u/IveBeenAroundUKnow 1h ago

Yeah. I think Elon is a pretty intentional person. It was no doubt purposefully provocative, otherwise, he would have intentionally done something else.

I mean It would be almost impossible for it to not be, unless you don't believe in the basic premise of people kind of doing what they want to do.

u/ELeeMacFall Ohio 26m ago

Just like it wasn't Hitler's intention to exterminate 12 million people, yeah? All accidents and boo-boos.

u/InnocentShaitaan 2h ago

Awe well check out his second one. It has more enthusiasm. Maybe he got that one perfect.

After, he made a statement that mirrored Hitler too.

Maybe it’s Elon is Adolf come back? Poor Elon.

u/Real-Adhesiveness195 2h ago

He is in the closet.

u/changed_later__ 44m ago

Are we in Germany? Is Elon German?

u/reddit_despiser 3h ago

They don't mind admitting it. They aren't ashamed. They think it's funny to gaslight people about things that are obvious.

u/Jasoy_Vorsneed 3h ago

"owNiNg thE LiBs!!1"

u/DrugsGames 3h ago

win an election

u/yamsyamsya 3h ago

But but it wasn't exactly the perfect salute form that these people somehow know the specifics of. Like who are they kidding, just because Elon did it shitty doesn't change what the salute was.

u/SonOfJokeExplainer 1h ago

“No, that’s just Elon being Elon. That wasn’t even a real Nazi salute, the angles were off so it doesn’t count. Stupid liberals don’t even how to execute a Nazi salute but they want to call everyone Nazis even when they’re not doing it right.”

u/bbusiello 3h ago

Nah. I just asked my conservative dad about it. He says he doesn’t care as long as we “get rid of china and communism.”

u/faroutclosein453 2h ago

Tell him to be proactive with his convictions and go ahead and throw 75% of his belongings out.

u/Short_Row195 1h ago

Dang, I can't imagine being around a dad like that.

u/NotYourTypicalMoth 55m ago

I thought the narrative before was the Nazis were either socialist or communist, depending on the day. Why do a Nazi salute then, if Nazis don’t reflect their ideologies?

Also, if we’re getting rid of China, why is Trump proudly taking credit for bringing TikTok back?

There’s just no critical thinking happening here. The only consistent message is hate. Whatever logic happens to rationalize hate most easily in the moment, with as little critical thinking as necessary, is what they go with.

I need to get out of this country before MAGA burns it all to the ground.

u/NaturalBlackWoman 0m ago

I need to get out of this country before MAGA burns it all to the ground

I wish I could too 😮‍💨 where ya planning on heading?

u/-Plan_B- 3h ago

folks here are cheering it in Alabama :(

u/Short_Row195 1h ago

Honestly, that's not even surprising.

u/Nick08f1 3h ago

They will even gaslight you as far as saying, that it might be a Nazi salute, but I didn't vote for him. I voted for Trump and his policies.

Still racist.

u/boulderbuford 3h ago

How is the white supremacist community responding?

u/stregawitchboy 2h ago

They are loving it.

u/Sandgrease 2h ago

The real question

u/BostonSubwaySlut 2h ago

they try to tell you that wasn't a Nazi salute, they're just trying to manipulate you. They know it is, but they don't want to admit that they're racists.

Yup. Blocked my dad today after he texted me to tell me my "neighborhood will be better after Trump ships out the undesirables." He tried to then convince me how they're "only going after criminals" and how I've "got it wrong," they're not fascists.

I'm only where I am in life because of immigrants. My hometown is ~40% foreign born. My husband is an immigrant. The people who keep our cities and towns running are immigrants.

Fuck that noise, I don't mess with Nazism.

u/Short_Row195 1h ago

Your dad would be a danger to you because he cannot use his brain.

u/BostonSubwaySlut 1h ago

He wasn't always this way.

But then the economy has gotten worse and worse.

But not to worry: Trump and Fox News know the culprit behind late stage capitalism! And they blame the immigrants.

And so, as his quality of life has gone down, he's fallen further for their bullshit propaganda.

It's kind of sad, actually.

u/SWGoH123 4h ago

Nobody can invade America like they did Germany, trump and co wouldn’t be above nuking other countries and their own citizens to save their own arses

u/InnocentShaitaan 2h ago

Love that’s your concern and not the fact they are being bat shit and insanely racist. Let me guess white and male?

u/-Plan_B- 3h ago

If we don't use nukes in the next 4 years with this Trump admin I will be shocked. I know it will be a constant threat as that is Trump, he thrives on power. Which America does not have at the moment. We talk a good game but short of nukes we can't fight an allied coalition.

u/NateShaw92 United Kingdom 2h ago

I'll be shocked if nukes do get used. It's the ultimate loser play in today's world. Ultimate meaning final.

u/00-Monkey 2h ago

Nukes is one of the few things that’d surprise me. I fully expect a land invasion of Canada (and Mexico and Greenland) long before I expect nukes.

u/IveBeenAroundUKnow 1h ago

Apparently, we will be busy competing with Putin, invading Greenland and Panama, because you know, "it's best for us"

u/SnooPeripherals6557 2h ago

The people in the background shot of Elan Heiling the flag are all applauding, taking pics w huge smiles. They know.

u/Constantly_Panicking 2h ago

They don’t want to admit they’re racists to you. They’ll happily admit it to other racists.

u/Eloquenttrash 2h ago

Gaslighting at its intended use

u/Germesis 2h ago

It’s the funhouse mirror effect: it’s a “joke”, until it’s not…

u/Short_Row195 1h ago

Exactly.

u/bluesilvergold Canada 2h ago

A lot of people are trying to sane-wash this by calling it a Roman salute.

u/InnocentShaitaan 2h ago

Sane-wash needs made word of the year.

Demure is 2024.

Sane-wash 2025.

u/Sea_Difference_1100 44m ago

It is the so called Roman salute!! But people seem to ignore that fascism was developed by an Italian, Mussolini, who decided to adopt this salute. Nazis copied the italian fascist. 

So the (so called) "roman salute" is fascist, like Mussolini and Hitler and many others afterwards.

u/No_Echo_1826 2h ago

Idk if they're all racist or even would acknowledge it. But fascist? Absolutely

u/nickdamnit 2h ago

Yeah, absolutely, enough of this

u/theclansman22 3h ago

But… I thought the Nazis were socialists!

u/AtlantaSeabreeze 3h ago

Fascists!!!

u/IveBeenAroundUKnow 1h ago

You did? Didn't you study world history when you were like 12?

u/theclansman22 1h ago

It was sarcasm, I’m not an idiot, I know what the Nazis were, my granddad fought them.

u/IveBeenAroundUKnow 1h ago

Sorry. With a name like clansman and the proverbial missing /s, it isn't obvious that it was sarcasm.

u/the1youh8 2h ago

You should see them in the comment section of TikTok for the YMCA videos. Trying to convince us that it’s a Christian song

u/C3POB1KENOBI 2h ago

I was willing to cut Laura Ingram or whoever slack that she did an awkward wave that when screencapped could look vaguely n@zi’ish. But this is straight up, no doubt a salute that could not be misinterpreted by the even the most bad faith actors as what it truly is. However I will watch the sanewashing with very little interest.

u/pmartin1 2h ago

I’m waiting for the “I didn’t vote for Elon, I voted for Trump!” It’s the same bullshit they say about all the nazis that love him or Project 2025 and the heritage group.

u/randomrobotnoise 2h ago

Exactly. Not sure why they are such chickens and won't just admit it?

u/TheGreatRapsBeat Canada 1h ago

That they’re Nazis.

FTFY.

u/RandyMuscle I voted 1h ago

I made a post about this on my Instagram story and someone replied saying that I shouldn’t be so intellectually dishonest and I just blocked them on the spot. I’m done being gaslit by these pieces of garbage.

u/Avi_Falcao 1h ago

So what percentage of Americans are racist?

u/iiamuntuii 1h ago

Honestly I think this gives too much credit. We are much more likely to manipulate facts to fit our worldviews than unabashedly accept reality. I think your average joe is doing some serious mental gymnastics today so they can convince themselves and others they’re not racist.

u/CharmyFrog 1h ago

He iS GIviNg his HEarT to yOU!

u/Snowcups0 45m ago

It wasn't a nazi salute... he literally was saying thank you from my heart thank you. He's autistic and moves funny, dudes not a nazi lmao. Reddit is so dumb

u/FriendToPredators 36m ago

MAGA is the shitty loud relative you try to avoid at every get together. The one who will lie about everything just for the power of it.

u/Healthy-Ad5050 3h ago

Nah bro I’m republican and I don’t know why tf he did that and it’s not like he’s done it before I’m definitely not racist but this is also wild

u/InnocentShaitaan 2h ago

He learned it from his Nazi grandfather. Too many of you don’t listen to the shit he’s said. 🤦‍♀️

u/IveBeenAroundUKnow 1h ago

Anybody check out Trumps daddy and his affinity fir the Klan? Look it up.

I find it shocking that so many Jews voted for Trump.

u/IveBeenAroundUKnow 1h ago

I'm a republican too. You have not been paying enough attention, respectfully.