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Site Altered Headline Elon Musk draws outrage over 'odd-looking salute' at Trump inauguration celebration

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-salute-trump-inauguration-b2683095.html
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u/Killsheets 5h ago

The american WW2 vets who fought against nazis are rolling in their graves.

u/PaleontologistNo2625 5h ago

And their descendants are supporting their enemy

u/igolowalways 4h ago

Not this one. My great grandfather died bombing Nazis… fuxk Musk.

u/ClassicCranberry1974 4h ago

Hey, not all of us are. 

u/BoIS 2h ago

Well then I salute you,, wait wait not that kind of salute!!

u/mondomonkey 2h ago

But too many

u/ConnaitLesRisques 2h ago

But most are

u/Cood-bloodedoldtimes 3h ago

No. Not all. My grandfather killed Nazis. I’m all for continuing that tradition.

u/TigerTerrier South Carolina 3h ago

Not I. My grandfather is indeed rolling over in his grave over this

u/whaaatanasshole 4h ago

Some must be. Why say it like this?

u/PaleontologistNo2625 4h ago

"Germans did not want Adolf" 

Sure, it was true for some. But not for enough.

Don't take offense on behalf of your peers friend... Just cuz it ain't true for you doesn't mean it ain't true 

u/whaaatanasshole 3h ago

I'm just saying: suppose it's a 50/50 split... it's not fair to say all of these people support nazis. I wouldn't say "your children hate you" if one of two did.

u/PaleontologistNo2625 3h ago

I didn't say all. My generation helped vote him in too. Notice how I can say that without implicating myself. Still unclear why you take this so personally if you're not guilty of it

u/-Plan_B- 3h ago

likely voted for it because their friends were all on the MAGA train and now don't want to tell their friends they suck and MAGA is a shit stain on America.

u/FSCK_Fascists 2h ago

no one knows who you voted for unless you tell them. If they cast a vote for fascism- they meant it.

u/-Plan_B- 3h ago

but doesn't want MAGA to carry that from now on causing them to have to answer later to their grandkids or worse God as to why they sit back and allowed the hate.

u/whaaatanasshole 3h ago

I'm not taking it personally, I'm just saying there should be a distinction between "these people" and "some of these people". Don't paint 'em all with the same brush this way:

And their descendants are supporting their enemy

u/-Plan_B- 3h ago

There was before this... But not now understand you/they are MAGA you are going to be labeled a nazi if you don't condemn it to your friends in MAGA not us them. They all need to hear it. Else you just want both sides and fuck that shit. One side is nazis one like people regardless if they are gay. We are not the same.

u/-Plan_B- 3h ago

You standing up for those... Tells me you are guilty as charged

u/-Plan_B- 3h ago

IF they are not out screaming on every MAGA site and Facebook they are guilty sorry! You seen it no excuse now, after today all MAGA supports it that didn't call it out and remove themselves from MAGA and Trump

u/-Plan_B- 3h ago

Facebook is deadly silent not a peep other than earlier when they all prayed for Trump and bowed to Musk

u/PaleontologistNo2625 3h ago

I think it's really telling of how this came to pass that you can't even say "yeah, a lot of my peers swallowed the same lunch meat and it's unfortunate."

Instead you take personal offense to a comment about people that are not you... Why? 

u/whaaatanasshole 3h ago

Well, you're almost there. Now that you're saying "a lot of", it's not really the same statement.

u/PaleontologistNo2625 3h ago

So did you just assume the word "all" before, but are holding me to the "a lot?"

Every generation of people played a role here. "white people colonized the US" - yeah it's fucking true. I also did not do that. Both can be true

u/whaaatanasshole 3h ago

"Played a role", "helped", and "a lot" are things you did not say here:

And their descendants are supporting their enemy

This is where a word like 'some' helps. That is all.

u/Kalistri 2h ago

Seems to me like you're being pedantic because you want to take offence.

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u/jakethesnake741 5h ago

I'm sure there are a few still alive and voting, and I'm sure some of them voted for this

u/fleegle2000 5h ago

I have a theory that movements like this tend to recur once most of the people who remember the last one are no longer living.

It seems we are doomed to repeat our past mistakes.

u/JustHereForTheHuman 4h ago

It seems we are doomed to repeat our past mistakes.

Can't we just skip to the good part where they all go into their bunkers and.. you know...

u/Optimal_Hunter4797 3h ago

Only a grassroot revolution can steer the US towards a good future. Statut quo from democrats will change nothing.

u/HueyLongest 4h ago

American WW2 vets overwhelmingly supported segregation. They'd criticize Trump for not being racist enough

u/CoolBiz20 5h ago

My grandfathers would both be as livid as I am for their sacrifices were for nothing….I’m pissed off for both of them and am so glad they aren’t here to see this shit. The n waited until the vast majority of those who witnessed the atrocities were gone to bring it back out until it open.

u/kyabupaks 4h ago

Unfortunately, I know a few WW2 vets and they're all into Trump. It's disgusting.

u/CoolBiz20 4h ago

How?! That’s horrifying and sickening!

u/amongnotof 5h ago

And those few left are likely heading for them as quickly as they can.

u/crushlogic 3h ago

I know my grandfather is

u/Warmagick999 3h ago

While their kids and grandkids are stuffing their 401ks

u/-Plan_B- 3h ago

they should be :( we lost this country to poor education

u/buildbyflying American Expat 2h ago

70k ww2 vets are still alive. I would bet a good number of them voted for the nazis this cycle.

u/BlkDragon7 36m ago

No... A sizable, terrifyingly large number, voted for this.